1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Agreed. Why talk about the most important position on the team when we can continually bring up someone who no longer plays here instead.

Wait...

You said agreed. How disingenuous.    

2 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Agreed. Why talk about the most important position on the team when we can continually bring up someone who no longer plays here instead.

Wait...

Hey dummy, there's a big difference between talking about him a lot and obsessing over him and nitpicking every little thing about him every single day. We have certain people who insist he didn't even improve this year which every analyst who follows this team worth a damn has said he has.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You said agreed. How disingenuous.    

Circle jerk coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1......

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Circle jerk coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1......

Like we ever stopped 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

Please provide any proof of this, at all. 

I think Hurts got better at this, but I'd have no way to quantify this. The only way to do it is to know the calls/progression of every play, then chart it. So the Eagles would know, but no one else would.

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

There is a lot more at stake choosing a HC.  Not just scheme, but staffing building, game prep process, establishing a culture, connecting with players, communicating with the press, working with the FO and scouts.  Can he function as a leader and not just a football guy.

Yeah, I get that. Management requires a different skillset. But my observation is that "speaking well" is too heavily weighted.

11 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Agreed. Why talk about the most important position on the team when we can continually bring up someone who no longer plays here instead.

Wait...

Please don't quote the terminator of trolls

45 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

This was a time when SCTV was at it's peak, prior to NBC acquiring the show. The latter was a shell of it's former self.

 

Candy, Levy, Thomas, Moranis, Flahrety, Martin and Ohara - the best

I never found Rick Moranis funny -- in the least.  He was a school mate of Dave Thomas', so they brought him in (IIRC) because Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara stayed in the US to explore film opportunities when the show relocated from Toronto to Edmonton.

Like a lot of shows I think SCTV was at it's best in the first 2-3 seasons when Harold Ramis was head writer.  His skits were great, but he didn't like being in front of the camera so he worked more behind the scenes.  I suspect, like Monty Python, that the cast wrote in pairs because Levy and Flaherty were together a lot, as were Thomas and John Candy at first.  When I watched the show as a kid my favs were Candy and Thomas, but when I watch it now I realize how underrated Eugene Levy was -- his characters were almost universally hilarious.  Whenever Andrea Martin did her Golda Meir impression it was a guaranteed laugh, and her Edith Prickley character too.

Martin Short was also an outstanding choice.  If you haven't seen his appearance on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson where Bette Davis asks if he does an impression of her, I highly recommend it as well as Short's interview years later where he describes it. 

3 hours ago, NCiggles said:

I don't know. Gannon didn't lack talent or experience in the secondary.  He had some very veteran defenders in the secondary in McLeod, Slay, Harris and Nelson.  Maddox is also a vet.  One of the criticisms of his play calling through the first part of the season was that he didn't do much to disguise coverages.  He ran a disproportionate amount of zone coverage which led to easy completions.  I get not trusting the LB play but I think he didn't trust anyone or was still learning how to scheme.   There's no question that the defense needs to add talent.  The LBs are not even average NFL starters.  Maybe Davion Taylor comes back and continues to improve.  He did flash in games.  Epps flashed but he's not a great coverage safety.  Nelson is likely gone as is McLeod and Harris.  Even if we do get an influx of talent what makes you think Gannon will trust rookies to execute more than the vets? Gannon coached the defense like he was scared to lose rather than trying to do things to win games.  Maybe that's just the way of the NFL now.  Certainly Schwartz was frustrating at times because he played for stops much more often than he played to force a turnover.  Schwartz did use blitzes effectively and he got more out of the d-line.  A veteran coordinator like Fangio would make a big difference. 

 

59 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m sorry he got into the NFL in 1986. So 35 years of nfl experience. He started coaching in 1979 so 43 years he’s been in coaching. That’s really point you want to try to go with? Cause i used hyperbole? 

Now you’re just changing what you said to me originally. I put out the argument against what you originally said. 

Again you want them to scrap what they did all off-season to implement a scheme on the fly just assume that what you are saying is positively going to work. I do not think that’s the case. It might work here and there but  things will eventually adjust because your talent sucks and so they’ll eventually beat you doing it that way . So unless you’re gonna tell him to just completely scrap his entire philosophy to go with an entirely new philosophy implement mid season which is super difficult to do. 

Do I think they should have blitzes more? Yes.  However I’m guessing it’s probably because he doesn’t trust Nelson and the safeties to hold up if he did it more. Again going back to the fact he doesn’t trust his personnel. You continue to ignore the fact that might be a major reason why he didn’t see him do it. And he doesn’t have the talent to be successful in either scheme 

I don’t have a problem with you but you seem to blame nearly everything on the coaches everytime we discuss stuff and let players off the hook way too easily. honestly watch the other playoff teams this weekend on defense in the NFC. Tell me the Eagles remotely have close to the talent for those schemes they want to do. They can do your scheme all day long. All season long they can do your scheme. It’s still not gonna be that good because their talent sucks. I would be more in your corner if the Eagles had a bunch of defensive talent and Gannon was coming up small and not trying to be more creative with that talent. Gannon definitely has his issues. I’m not sugarcoating that he has crap he has to work on. The biggest issue with their defense this year was lack of talent To run any scheme at a Super Bowl or playoff caliber level

I had to go back and look at what I originally said and I think I found it but I say a lot of things so who knows. I can't see where I changed what I said.    Gannon may or may not go.  I have not been impressed.  It's possible the grass is always greener and the talent gap is wide but even so I think he did not do a great job.

As to blaming the players, the defense isn't talented.    One reason, I think the team should keep Hurts is simply because it makes it more likely they use the 3 firsts on defense.  I am against trading away more than one first for future firsts because it limits the ability to add talent.  They have needs that should have been addressed up and down the defense.  They don't have a young rising player.  Sweat, who was supposed to have a break out year was OK but not great.  Barnett is an utter disappointment.  I think Maddox is a competent nickel back but nothing special.  McPhearson hasn't impressed and I think he has made mistakes any time he has been in the game.  He also looks a step slow.  

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Please don't quote the terminator of trolls

I typically don't, but the stupidity was overwhelming. Not that I'm surprised.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

He's ugly,  dumb looking, with a really bad haircut and a cowterds fan. What's the attraction?

8 minutes ago, greend said:

Please don't quote the troll who needs to be terminated

FYP

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Like we ever stopped 

 

Just now, greend said:

He's ugly,  dumb looking, with a really bad haircut and a cowterds fan. What's the attraction?

I'll wreck his girl's big arse forehead 

Just now, Godfather said:

I'll wreck his girl's big arse forehead 

and he has pistol grip ears

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I understand what you're saying.  Great players are going to be great.  Would you be happy though if in Smith's 2nd season he still averages 4 catches per game?  Smith has control over how great he is but he has no control over Hurts getting him the ball or not.  That's the issue.  No, it won't hurt his growth but I don't want another season with our top 10 pick having less catches than 1/3 of the tight ends in the NFL and a handful of RB.

Smith could and SHOULD be a 90 catch guy with over 1400 yards.  He should be able to catch passes over 30 yards with the ability to take them to the house.  The only time Hurts gets him the ball now is on an out pattern or a comeback.  Oh, and he has to block way more than he should. 

They invested a 2nd round pick and 3 years in JJAW.  He had what...2 catches this year?  They traded up and invested more than a 1st round pick in Andre Dillard and he's a reserve tackle.  The investment in Hurts has been made but the return isn't worth it IMO.  Yes, he's likeable and the guys like him but that's not all it takes.

 

 

No, but I think that is on Sirianni and the offensive gameplan just as much. My hope is that heading into year two it is more of an effort to center the gameplan around Smith since he won't be a rookie and is so clearly our best WR.  You look at the Jets game that Minshew started and DeVonta was hardly targeted. 

 

The investment in Hurts has been worth it from what we have seen and what he was able to do his first year as a starter.  To try to compare him to JJAW is nonsense. 

35 minutes ago, greend said:

Yeah, no problem. I value your opinion. 

You flatter me.   (Though I do seem to know WRs much better than Howie!) 

 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

You flatter me.   (Though I do seem to know WRs much better than Howie!) 

 

Wow, what a high bar!

15 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

No one needs to see that picture anymore.   

7 minutes ago, greend said:

He's ugly,  dumb looking, with a really bad haircut and a cowterds fan. What's the attraction?

Could be Skip's b@stard child.

 

7 hours ago, justrelax said:

Yeah, that Roger Staubach was a bum. Joined the Turds at 27. What could they have been thinking? And they spent a 10th round pick on him!

So your argument in response to my opinion that you shouldn't spend a 3rd round pick on guys who are way overage though later picks are fine is to go back 60 years and talk about a 10th round pick.  Really strong stuff, you've clearly shown me the errors of my thinking.

33 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

From draft guru Dane Brugler at The Athletic.  It appears that we are well-positioned this year in the teens.

In most NFL Drafts, there are five to seven top-tier prospects who make up the "upper class” and will be the first players drafted. That is followed by 12-15 "middle class” players who might not be elite but received first-round grades from teams and project as solid NFL starters. The bad news is the 2022 NFL Draft is missing those "upper class” prospects — there is no Joe Burrow or Myles Garrett or Ja’Marr Chase this year. The good news is this year’s draft is well-stocked with "middle class” first-rounders — players with NFL starting traits who will make impacts as rookies.

Well...there have been historic RB classes that netted Donnell Pumphrey, historic WR classes that netted JJAW and Reagor, historic DLine classes that they ignored the position all together.

This just tells me that Howie will either trade all of the picks for an aging QB or trade up thinking there is a top notch prospect and miss.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Well...there have been historic RB classes that netted Donnell Pumphrey, historic WR classes that netted JJAW and Reagor, historic DLine classes that they ignored the position all together.

This just tells me that Howie will either trade all of the picks for an aging QB or trade up thinking there is a top notch prospect and miss.

 

On 1/17/2022 at 6:00 PM, Connecticut Eagle said:

Now we can spend three months criticizing a draft that hasn't happened yet.

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Why would anyone admit to have dated that guy?

17 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I never found Rick Moranis funny -- in the least.  He was a school mate of Dave Thomas', so they brought him in (IIRC) because Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara stayed in the US to explore film opportunities when the show relocated from Toronto to Edmonton.

Like a lot of shows I think SCTV was at it's best in the first 2-3 seasons when Harold Ramis was head writer.  His skits were great, but he didn't like being in front of the camera so he worked more behind the scenes.  I suspect, like Monty Python, that the cast wrote in pairs because Levy and Flaherty were together a lot, as were Thomas and John Candy at first.  When I watched the show as a kid my favs were Candy and Thomas, but when I watch it now I realize how underrated Eugene Levy was -- his characters were almost universally hilarious.  Whenever Andrea Martin did her Golda Meir impression it was a guaranteed laugh, and her Edith Prickley character too.

Martin Short was also an outstanding choice.  If you haven't seen his appearance on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson where Bette Davis asks if he does an impression of her, I highly recommend it as well as Short's interview years later where he describes it. 

I thought Rick Moranis was great with the McKenzie Brothers but that's about it.  Other than that, he was just the nerd in Ghostbusters and the dad in Honey I Shrunk the Kids.  Never saw Little Shop of Horrors and don't really recall much else he was in.

Huge respect from him though for retiring from acting to take care of his cancer ridden wife.  Could have been selfish and continued to make straight to VHS movies bringing in decent money but he didn't.  Hats off to him for that.