35 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

It bothers me that some think Hurts is literally the only answer because if you want something different you need to pay a lot for a FA or use one of the 1st round picks

51 minutes ago, greend said:

Was it a  movie, play, concert, lecture, comedian, musical, ballet, dance recital, assembly, presentation or magic act? Because during all of those things people aren't just wondering around the stage. If she sues she wins

Presentation, yes.  Plenty of people wandering stages at concerts.  Camera people, roadies, the musicians themselves and others.  Ever see a play or musical?  Besides actors and/or dancers, there are bit players and during scene changes all sorts of movement and people on the stage. Not all the movement choreographed either.  Have you ever seen a railing on a stage, was my question.  She backed off the stage but someone else is responsible.  Is it reasonable and prudent to walk backwards on an elevated stage?  I am sorry she hurt herself, but blaming others is just wrong.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I don't look at it that way.  I look at you wanting...needing to buy a house.  But don't like the current inventory especially at the price.  So you put that money away and rent for another year until more inventory becomes available.  

OR you go for that deluxe apartment in the sky Russell Wilson

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

54 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think your definition of self caused and mine might differ.  A CNA in a nursing home hurting her back trying to flip over a 300 lbs patient by herself might be "self caused" but some might believe understaffing and broken patient lifts might be an issue as well.  The same can be said about manufacturing environments where people lose fingers because they don't want to stop the line.  

Contrib bends everyone's idea of fairness.  Judges let arguments on contrib in civil cases inappropriately all of the time.  It basically can be argued regardless of whether there's actual evidence.  Slip and fall cases and most unsafe premises cases are no goes in NC for that reason.  From a social perspective, we want laws that hold people accountable for themselves.  Laws that are pure comparative or pure contrib do not encourage social responsibility.  Interestingly, we had the possibility of getting rid of contrib in NC for a 51% comparative law but it was coupled with elimination of joint and several liability.  The trial lawyers group was dominated by some big med mal lawyers who did not want to give up joint and several.  So they pushed to kill the bill.  2 years later Med Mal was capped and basically eliminated for ER visits. I am still mad about it.  Now Joint and several can be important but from a policy and greater good standpoint it impacts far less people.  Those med mal Ds could not see past the last case they settled for big money to understand the changing landscape and future issues.  

We have billed vs. paid here and I think the counter point to it is when it's health insurance.  Why should an at fault driver get the benefit of reduced exposure because of the health insurance I pay for?  The margins of reductions are often where the plaintiff actually gets a recovery which is warranted.  The reality of it is that those bills are inflated and who knows the formula used to come up with the billed amount.  

Because if the person wasn’t insured they usually have Medicaid or Medicare that also limit what is paid.  Billed isn’t the actual damages.  The at fault isn’t getting the benefit of the insurance.  That would be actual out of pocket, in other words what the health insurer and PIP insurer didn’t pay.  Or what the actual lien is.  Not fair.  Neither is joint and several.  

BTW, I hate Med Mal caps.  Those aren’t fair either.  

I do like the Colorado approach to punitive damages - paid to the state.  And NY and CA are right, punitive damages should not be covered by insurance.  They are to punish.  That’s like a rich person paying someone else to serve their jail time.

If you ever have a case in PA, get greend on your jury.

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Oh gawd does he have the same agent as Alshon

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

Two different games in how they're played.  The men are much more capable of up-weight shots and getting more action on rocks after contact.  The women's game is more draws and taps, where the men play more hits, run-backs and raise shots.  Both are interesting in their own way.

You folks know that there are mixed doubles in curling, don’t you?

2 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Oh gawd does he have the same agent as Alshon

Naw alshon is giving her inside info still. 

32 minutes ago, justrelax said:

 

Shawn played tackle at Arkansas, which is something of a different animal. As a guard, though, he was the most powerful run blocker I can recall. Well, along with Larry Allen.

I like the mention of Nelson. He’s comparable to Martin and both are closer to Green than is Andrews.

The day Andrews and Allen first stepped on the pro field they were the best linemen on their respective teams. I don’t see Green being at quite that level. In fact, if we were to draft him, he would be the worst of our five theoretical starters.

Don’t disagree.  I think he is a step below Nelson at this point.  Puts him around where the Eagles are drafting.  

19 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

I think Smith is the top run blocker this draft , needs work pass pro though , I think he is a OG in the NFL , some think he plays tackle  , I can see that too , he has the run blocking figured out 

Definitely needs work on pass pro. Oversets outside and gets beat past his inside shoulder. I watched the better part of two games and he must have been beaten inside a dozen times. I agree that he would do better at guard or perhaps I should say worse at tackle.

22 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Lol. Sure. 

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Don’t disagree.  I think he is a step below Nelson at this point.  Puts him around where the Eagles are drafting.  

Definitely agree.

2 hours ago, greend said:

What NFL games have you been watching?

The ones where grabbing the back of a guys jersey and taking him to the ground is a hold.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Not exactly true.  You have to be paid a salary.  So let’s say you are greend dba greend lumber.   You are a sole proprietor.  You don’t have to carry WC.  But you could chose to and pay greend  a salary, say as president of greend lumber.  Then the renumeration basis for premium for greend would be your salary.  There is a bit more to it than that but you can buy WC if self employed.  I would always LLC any sole proprietorship and pay a salary as it provides some liability protection. 

I'm not sure that this is true, personally I have wc, but I have many contractors who don't and they have all told me they can't get it on themselves. Maybe I'll suggest that to the next one and see what his response is or maybe I won't lol

6 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Lol. Sure. 

I buy the "not eyeing Bucs/Vikings" part. Not buying they haven't talked about it though. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I buy the "not eyeing Bucs/Vikings" part. Not buying they haven't talked about it though. 

Yep.

29 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Presentation, yes.  Plenty of people wandering stages at concerts.  Camera people, roadies, the musicians themselves and others.  Ever see a play or musical?  Besides actors and/or dancers, there are bit players and during scene changes all sorts of movement and people on the stage. Not all the movement choreographed either.  Have you ever seen a railing on a stage, was my question.  She backed off the stage but someone else is responsible.  Is it reasonable and prudent to walk backwards on an elevated stage?  I am sorry she hurt herself, but blaming others is just wrong.

 Of course I've seen plays and musicals I don't live in remote Alaska (although I wouldn't mind). I'd bet you dollars to donuts she would win a lawsuit.

4 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

The ones where grabbing the back of a guys jersey and taking him to the ground is a hold.

First he didn't grab the back of the jersey he put his arm up behind the guy briefly. @nd the "throw to the ground" was done' buy him getting up underneath the armpit. But I've seen about a billion holds in the NFL that never get called and that was my point

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yep.

Agreed with this. With each passing day, Watson's leverage goes down. If a team wants to trade for him, sure he can use his no-trade...but then the Texans can just hold onto him. At some point, Watson needs to play.

I know your point.  Looked like a tackle to me and looked like the TE was grabbing for anything he could.

28 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

You folks know that there are mixed doubles in curling, don’t you?

Temporarily.  It's not real curling and not sustainable as a spectator sport.

10 minutes ago, greend said:

 Of course I've seen plays and musicals I don't live in remote Alaska (although I wouldn't mind). I'd bet you dollars to donuts she would win a lawsuit.

Once the right lawyer calls, she’ll never have to work again, because she fell off a stage. 

I have this awful feeling that we’re gonna come out of the first round with a lackluster edge rusher, a backup QB and a trade back for a reach of an offensive lineman

30 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Definitely needs work on pass pro. Oversets outside and gets beat past his inside shoulder. I watched the better part of two games and he must have been beaten inside a dozen times. I agree that he would do better at guard or perhaps I should say worse at tackle.

Yep .  I’m also a big Mitchell fan , and Ekwonu would be my first OL off the board 

overall I think it’s a pretty decent OL class 

15 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

Once the right lawyer calls, she’ll never have to work again, because she fell off a stage. 

My experience with these types of lawsuits is that Kelly gets her medical bills paid and said lawyer has a good day. I’m not going to get into insurance convo though…