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3 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

This is why IMO that having a rangy FS with ball skills is just as important as having a stud pass rushing DE.  I hope the Eagles' FO can see how the game has changed and they have to think differently about how they prioritize positions.  They've always valued the trenches since Lurie has been owner and that's perfectly fine.  However, for some time now they have been neglecting other positions like LB and S.  Have that FS that can help you create TOs and limit the other teams' abilities to make big plays in the passing game, but if you're going to try and force teams to dink & dunk then you also need LBs with speed who can pass cover.  We can't continue to not prioritize these positions and wait til the later rounds to draft a player or sign a just above JAG FA.  They did bring in Jenkins and McLeod and when they were both healthy and in their primes it made our D better.  I hope they don't forget that.

It's important for an O to be able to both pass the ball effectively and run the ball effectively.  That starts with the OL for pass protection and run blocking.  Of course you need the other pieces to maximize how effective you can be.  Most teams are usually around that 60/40 pass to run ratio and a really good O should be able to run the ball when they want to and be fairly effective at it.  Now that doesn't mean always averaging 5.0+ YPC each game, but making the D respect your running game enough to take heat off the passing game.  And it works the other way as well where having a good enough passing attack can get the D to not focus on your running game. 

I like that we have one of the best OLs in the League and we can be very effective running the ball.  Should nothing different transpire at the QB position this off-season then it will be interesting to see how opposing DCs scheme us.  Do they follow the TB/NYG blueprint and stack the box trying to neutralize our run game and if so then how does our OL and running attack hold up?  How do we counter it?  Can we counter it?  Loads of curious questions swirling around this football team right now.

 

I want to see them come out of the draft with a couple Ss.  Later round choice like J T Woods, Pitre’s mate at Baylor.  Kid has some wheels.  Not the best angles and bites sometimes but a lot of raw material to work with. 

9 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1495566152575107072?s=21

Stupid move.  Now the NFL combining everything into one day is dumb too.  

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Stupid move.  Now the NFL combining everything into one day is dumb too.  

I’ll be pissed off

3 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Did you watch the Eagles-Bucs matchup?   The power running game from the Eagles was easily shut down and they had no answers, because Hurts was incapable of throwing the ball to win the game.

What power running game? Did you see our stable of RBs for that game?  Scott and Sanders. Broke one tackle all game.

This is why we need to pick up a couple backs in the middle rounds, you're basic 220 lb back with good vision who may only run 4.6, but has good burst through the hole and gets YAC.

 

Big backz and H-backs; the 2022 Philadelphia Eagles 

2 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

That is how dumb AF is and why id rather have him on ignore then listen to his dumb takes. There is no conventional pocket QBs anymore. 99% of these QBs now have the mobility skills to run if needed. Perfect example Kenny Pickett. He is a progression read QB who likes to stay within the pocket. However he is a pretty good runner as well when he needs to be. Difference is unlike Hurts he will read his progressions and still look downfield until the last sec that he has to run. Carson Strong might be your only lack of mobility QB. Problem is Hurts is a one read running QB (RB who can throw here and there), what we need is a progression read QB who can be mobile if needed.

Every year you hear glowing things about college QBs, so how did Lawrence, Wilson and Fields do with their big arms and athleticism?

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Stupid move.  Now the NFL combining everything into one day is dumb too.  

Combine really don;t matter anyways. I go by real game film, not drills without pads or real oppts

2 minutes ago, austinfan said:

What power running game? Did you see our stable of RBs for that game?  Scott and Sanders. Broke one tackle all game.

This is why we need to pick up a couple backs in the middle rounds, you're basic 220 lb back with good vision who may only run 4.6, but has good burst through the hole and gets YAC.

Oh, you want to draw that line in the sand?    Ok.   The top rushing offense in the league was shut down by the Bucs, because the Bucs could just put 9 close to the LOS, 10 even on occasion, and Hurts couldn't do a thing about it.  

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Ironic response.  You disregard the Jets, because they are the Jets.  But, at the same time you are hailing Hurts for what he did in his final 3 games before the playoffs.  But, in the midst of that group, was a game against the Giants (who finished with the same record as the Jets) and whom had just beaten the Eagles while making Hurts look like a high schooler.  Sub-50% completion pct.  Under 150 passing yards, 0 TDs, 3 INTs.   The other games were against the Washingteam, one with Garrett Gilbert against the Eagles in the first game (meaning no pressure on Hurts whatsoever to put up big numbers).  Second one was against a beat up Heinecke.

I wasn't "hailing" Hurts, I was simply showing a post was exaggerated.

I'm not interesting in changing anyone's mind, I just don't jump to conclusions like 90% of fans, I'm old enough to know better.

Either Hurts steps it up next season or they'll find another short-term answer while they look for a long-term solution.

In my experience, the athletes most likely to improve are those with high work ethics and intelligence. Which Hurts has. So I'm not betting against him.

He's a top QB in the red zone, he just has to improve to "average" between the 20s. He doesn't have to be a great passer, just passable.

 

 

51 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Haven’t watched 60 mins in forever.  They just did a story on the "Havana Syndrome”.  Freaking weird and scary.  If you never heard of it, you should look it up.  Bizarre condition where high level government officials feel like they have been attacked by some sort of sensory or radio wave device.  Dozens and dozens of examples here and abroad.  One of those effected works inside the White House gates, just next to the west wing.  

It was in the walls.  Just fyi.

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

I wasn't "hailing" Hurts, I was simply showing a post was exaggerated.

I'm not interesting in changing anyone's mind, I just don't jump to conclusions like 90% of fans, I'm old enough to know better.

Either Hurts steps it up next season or they'll find another short-term answer while they look for a long-term solution.

In my experience, the athletes most likely to improve are those with high work ethics and intelligence. Which Hurts has. So I'm not betting against him.

He's a top QB in the red zone, he just has to improve to "average" between the 20s. He doesn't have to be a great passer, just passable.

Why look for another short term answer?  Hurts is still on his rookie deal for another year after 2022, why spend more for another guy that's not the answer either?  Just let the super Swag running QB run out the string, and then let him sign elsewhere after that.    

 

I'm not jumping to conclusions on Hurts.  I'm seeing what I expected to see from him when he came into the draft.  He's a runner that throws, not a thrower that runs.  He's limited in the passing game.  I'd like to see the list of QBs that have Hurts' set of characteristics that actually did work out in the NFL to be even passable.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I want to see them come out of the draft with a couple Ss.  Later round choice like J T Woods, Pitre’s mate at Baylor.  Kid has some wheels.  Not the best angles and bites sometimes but a lot of raw material to work with. 

I was also entertaining the idea of drafting 2 Ss.  One by Day 2 and another with one of the 4 draft picks in rounds 4 and 5.  Though, since they brought in all these CBs and there's some reports of trying to make some of them into Ss then we have no clue what the FO and coaching staff are thinking here.  Or do they just want them for dime and nickel packages and not as the 2 traditional starting roles?  We just don't know.

There's another Day 3 S that I've been looking at for a later round pick.  Markquese Bell from Florida A&M.  He's also a local kid having gone to Bridgeton HS in South Jersey where he was a state high jump champion and was named the SJ Times Offensive Player Of The Year as a WR with 792 yards and 11 TDs.  He's a bit over 6'2" and 200, though scouting reports say he should try to add a bit of weight.  He's a versatile S with range and ball skills, but he also is very good in run support.  The knock on him is due to his aggressive nature for making plays he can get caught with his eyes looking into the backfield so does give up a big play here and there, but that can be coached up.  He'll be the Combine so we'll see how he measures up vs the other Ss.

 

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

What the actual freak are you talking about??

Could be he's implying that with a conventional pocket QB that Sirianni would never call a play action pass on 1st down (where you could pickup 7-8 yards and set up 2nd & short situations) and we'd just run the ball on 1st and 2nd down and be in 3rd & longs all the time because the D wouldn't be stretched wide having to worry about a running QB.  Of course the D also wouldn't put 8-9 defenders within 5 yards of the LoS vs a conventional pocket QB.  The D would have to show some respect to the conventional pocket passer and the LBs and Ss would have to play a little further off the LoS resulting in our OL having a more favourable numbers advantage at the point of attack so our ground game should be just fine.

That's just how I interpreted it and then drew my own conclusions, but I'm just 1 of over 1500 couch QBs on a message board so what the Hell do I know?

 

51 minutes ago, austinfan said:

What power running game? Did you see our stable of RBs for that game?  Scott and Sanders. Broke one tackle all game.

This is why we need to pick up a couple backs in the middle rounds, you're basic 220 lb back with good vision who may only run 4.6, but has good burst through the hole and gets YAC.

 

Power running game is more about the blocking than the RB with the rock...

48 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Combine really don;t matter anyways. I go by real game film, not drills without pads or real oppts

The combine is more for us fans to enjoy and drivel over...for scouts/execs/gms/presidents it's reconnoiter.  Confirm what you know and find out what you don't.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Haven’t watched 60 mins in forever.  They just did a story on the "Havana Syndrome”.  Freaking weird and scary.  If you never heard of it, you should look it up.  Bizarre condition where high level government officials feel like they have been attacked by some sort of sensory or radio wave device.  Dozens and dozens of examples here and abroad.  One of those effected works inside the White House gates, just next to the west wing.  

Is it Kamala? She looks like a brain dead zombie 

I made some reaches on the TDN big board to just get who I thought was best rather than whoever may have been higher on their board. That meant Elam over McDuffy and McCreary.

Ojabo was available for my 1st 2 picks. I didnt take him because he, like Thibodeaux would be better suited a a 3-4 OLB.

Pickens over a couple other WRs, because he is talented enough to be WR1 this year.

Kerby Joseph over a few other safeties.

In the end, its one of the greatest drafts ever done.

38 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Anyone know why this is a significant draft for the "elite GM” of the Philadelphia Eagles?  
 

 

Man I clicked on that and read some of the comments... My goodness, what a bunch of morons.

Not sure what you're getting at, but it's Howie's only draft with 2 Pro Bowlers (2018 class will probably get there.). A little surprising considering how bad of a draft it was.

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

 

I'm against every draft scenario that has us taking a WR in the 1st round. 

Why? Look at the quality of the the WRs on the teams who made deep playoff runs. 

12 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Why? Look at the quality of the the WRs on the teams who made deep playoff runs. 

 

You know who drafts a WR in the first round 3 years in a row? The Detroit Lions. 

 

If you want add WR to the team then there are a number of quality young guys out there that you can sign in FA. DeVonta Smith can clearly be that #1 WR.  You don't need to spend a 1st in getting the #2. Just grab that in free agency and I think Quez has the potential to develop into that as well. 

 

The firsts need to go to defense. Only event in considering an offensive player in the first is if some dominant oline prospect drops to them. 

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

I wasn't "hailing" Hurts, I was simply showing a post was exaggerated.

I'm not interesting in changing anyone's mind, I just don't jump to conclusions like 90% of fans, I'm old enough to know better.

Either Hurts steps it up next season or they'll find another short-term answer while they look for a long-term solution.

In my experience, the athletes most likely to improve are those with high work ethics and intelligence. Which Hurts has. So I'm not betting against him.

He's a top QB in the red zone, he just has to improve to "average" between the 20s. He doesn't have to be a great passer, just passable.

 

 

What makes you think  he has intelligence??

Since Gannon likes to rotate safeties, this guy got a lot more interesting. 

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Since Gannon likes to rotate safeties, this guy got a lot more interesting. 

Weren't there a bunch of posts like this about K'Von Wallace two years ago?

4 hours ago, Wentz_Era said:

The combine is more for us fans to enjoy and drivel over...for scouts/execs/gms/presidents it's reconnoiter.  Confirm what you know and find out what you don't.

It is primarily for the medical checkups  it is the first chance to see how the kids respond to NFL level coaching and it is to verify speed and agility.