7 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

What makes you think  he has intelligence??

Because he can diagnose a play/defense.

Oh wait, many people can do that. 

Must be something else.

6 hours ago, Saltpeter said:

Weren't there a bunch of posts like this about K'Von Wallace two years ago?

Yup. 

Wallace is so disappointing. He had experience, production and functional athleticism. Yet he can't play. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Lane Johnson is the last pro bowl player Howie drafted,  still on the team. The only other players  were Ertz and Wentz.   9 years.  And there’s one player currently on the team that made a pro bowl, that was drafted by the Eagles.  
 

Im not counting that BS substitute Josh Sweat this year.  That’s a joke.  
 

Conclusion:  Howie sucks at drafting.  

Wasn't Lane a Chip pick?

7 hours ago, Saltpeter said:

Weren't there a bunch of posts like this about K'Von Wallace two years ago?

Yup. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Lane Johnson is the last pro bowl player Howie drafted,  still on the team. The only other players  were Ertz and Wentz.   9 years.  And there’s one player currently on the team that made a pro bowl, that was drafted by the Eagles.  
 

Im not counting that BS substitute Josh Sweat this year.  That’s a joke.  
 

Conclusion:  Howie sucks at drafting.  

Yup

9 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

What makes you think  he has intelligence??

He doesn’t jump to conclusions like 90% of fans.

9 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Since Gannon likes to rotate safeties, this guy got a lot more interesting. 

I don't really think so. He wants mostly cover 2 looks. We just need guys with good range in coverage and ball hawking ability. 

I don't necessarily care how much a guy played in the box. That's how we got stuck with Wallace. He was a box safety that some people convinced themselves could cover better than most people have him credit for.  That was wrong. 

44 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He's basically a rookie.  Give him a chance.  Build around him.  He's a good leader.  He has intangibles.  

Well who Fing knows.  It changes yearly as to who drafted who.  Point is....the Eagles haven't drafted a pro bowler since 2013 not counting the evil wentz guy.  

I'll be Afan: 

"That's not accurate. Howie managed to get Hurts and Sweat who were both pro bowlers this season and neither of them are first rounders. He wanted to maintain the SB team with Doug picks, but he managed to find starters later in the draft" 

You know, something along those lines.

47 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Wasn't Lane a Chip pick?

Come on now! You have been on these Boards long enough to know that:

1) all the good picks are Roseman's: and

2) all the bad picks are someone else's.

You guys have managed to beat Afan down to the point where he’s hedging more and more on Hurts.

Screw the group think in here: Hurts has the chance to be an excellent quarterback. Some people can see it and others can’t. We’ll see who ends up being correct.

6 minutes ago, Thrive said:

You guys have managed to beat Afan down to the point where he’s hedging more and more on Hurts.

Screw the group think in here: Hurts has the chance to be an excellent quarterback. Some people can see it and others can’t. We’ll see who ends up being correct.

I appreciate going against the grain. Groupthink in here does get out of hand sometimes (ex. the gang who used to clown everyone criticizing Wentz).

But man that Tampa game was rough. I just can't get out of my mind Todd Bowles' borderline disrespectful gameplan basically giving Hurts any on-time intermediate or deep throw he wanted, and Hurts just had nothing.

 

27 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I don't really think so. He wants mostly cover 2 looks. We just need guys with good range in coverage and ball hawking ability. 

I don't necessarily care how much a guy played in the box. That's how we got stuck with Wallace. He was a box safety that some people convinced themselves could cover better than most people have him credit for.  That was wrong. 

We played a lot more single high as the season went on, spinning our safeties. If you’re going to do that, that means you need two guys with FS skills who can also play in the trash a bit. 

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We played a lot more single high as the season went on, spinning our safeties. If you’re going to do that, that means you need two guys with FS skills who can also play in the trash a bit. 

On both sides of the ball, I’m not sure what we saw was what the coaches wanted to run vs what they had to run given the team they had. 
 

I think we will see clearer direction starting with this draft 

10 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You know who drafts a WR in the first round 3 years in a row? The Detroit Lions. 

 

If you want add WR to the team then there are a number of quality young guys out there that you can sign in FA. DeVonta Smith can clearly be that #1 WR.  You don't need to spend a 1st in getting the #2. Just grab that in free agency and I think Quez has the potential to develop into that as well. 

 

The firsts need to go to defense. Only event in considering an offensive player in the first is if some dominant oline prospect drops to them. 

The Lions did that 20 years ago. The game has changed since then. 
 

As of now, the Eagles have 3 1st round picks. The 3 most important positions, IMO, in today’s game, are QB, WR, and DL. The Eagles need to improve at all of them. They need a better starting WR, maybe 2. So if the BPA is a WR at one of their picks, they’d be dumb not to pull the trigger. 

4 minutes ago, purplefiggy said:

On both sides of the ball, I’m not sure what we saw was what the coaches wanted to run vs what they had to run given the team they had. 
 

I think we will see clearer direction starting with this draft 

Agreed. Since Im projecting, I’m putting more stock into what we did later in the year vs earlier since the players were getting more comfortable with the scheme. Hopefully Gannon can add more complexity in year 2. 

I do not want to draft a WR in the first, again.

Having said that if WR is clearly the best player left on the board, I'd rather them take him than reach for another position.

BPA, within reason.

32 minutes ago, Thrive said:

You guys have managed to beat Afan down to the point where he’s hedging more and more on Hurts.

Screw the group think in here: Hurts has the chance to be an excellent quarterback. Some people can see it and others can’t. We’ll see who ends up being correct.

Some people didn't like the pick when it happened and see no reason to think he can become an "excellent" QB.  He's a nice runner though.  

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We played a lot more single high as the season went on, spinning our safeties. If you’re going to do that, that means you need two guys with FS skills who can also play in the trash a bit. 

Hill

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We played a lot more single high as the season went on, spinning our safeties. If you’re going to do that, that means you need two guys with FS skills who can also play in the trash a bit. 

Yeah but is that the plan? Or did it happen because our run D started the year of horribly? I think moving a safety down was a fix for the run D. And fit our safeties diminishing skillets better. 

This offseason is an opportunity to bring in the kind of personnel Gannon actually wants to make his D work. 

29 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I appreciate going against the grain. Groupthink in here does get out of hand sometimes (ex. the gang who used to clown everyone criticizing Wentz).

But man that Tampa game was rough. I just can't get out of my mind Todd Bowles' borderline disrespectful gameplan basically giving Hurts any on-time intermediate or deep throw he wanted, and Hurts just had nothing.

 there was no "group think" in here then. There was just as much criticism of him as there was defenders. In fact the fact that almost everyone in the blog agrees that Hurts isn't the man is damning to him. The people that cry about "group think" aren't man enough to stand up for what they think to be true and have to sulk about "group think".

12 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah but is that the plan? Or did it happen because our run D started the year of horribly? I think moving a safety down was a fix for the run D. And fit our safeties diminishing skillets better. 

This offseason is an opportunity to bring in the kind of personnel Gannon actually wants to make his D work. 

I don’t know. My guess is he wants to spin the safeties to give QBs a different look at the snap. Doesn’t mean every play, but enough that I think they want two FS types who can also hold up in the box. 

26 minutes ago, Swoop said:

I do not want to draft a WR in the first, again.

Having said that if WR is clearly the best player left on the board, I'd rather them take him than reach for another position.

BPA, within reason.

Agreed. We have enough needs that we don't have to reach at any position. You can argue about the following positions in RD1: DT, EDGE, CB, LB, S, WR. Safety probably won't be BPA, the rest matches up with the meat of the draft.

49 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I appreciate going against the grain. Groupthink in here does get out of hand sometimes (ex. the gang who used to clown everyone criticizing Wentz).

But man that Tampa game was rough. I just can't get out of my mind Todd Bowles' borderline disrespectful gameplan basically giving Hurts any on-time intermediate or deep throw he wanted, and Hurts just had nothing.

It was one game (albeit a bad one) against a more talented team. It happens to every good QB every year.

12 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I made some reaches on the TDN big board to just get who I thought was best rather than whoever may have been higher on their board. That meant Elam over McDuffy and McCreary.

This would be a perfect draft for the team to grab two corners in the first, with the idea of moving Maddox to safety.

Epps and Maddox would be a pretty good duo, and drafting two corners early would double the team's chances of finding a really good one. If you hit on both guys, you solve the corner problem for the next five years and can move on from Slay.

It seems like a waste to take a LB in the first when there are a ton of guys available later on (Andersen, Chenal, Asamoah, Clark), and this corner class is really deep. And drafting two corners doesn't mean you can't draft a safety in the second or third, as it's not like Marcus Epps coming off the bench would be a travesty.