1 minute ago, The Blackfish said:

It was more about Detroit taking Alim McNeil since the Eagles traded back a few picks, as Donahue believed Gannon wanted/needed more of 3 technique vs Milton. 

Still makes him an idiot.

10 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Show me a site that had him ranked as a 3rd round pick BEFORE the draft.  I'll wait. 

https://walterfootball.com/draft2014WR.php

 

 

57 minutes ago, RLC said:

Howie tried to make his coach happy...and STILL got pushed out by Chip. Kelly flamed out in the NFL.

Reminder: Chip was the worst.

I dont  know which was worse, chip Kelly or all the stupid faux eagle ducks fans who all disappeared off the board the minute he was fired...

 

24 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Maybe as a punt returner who could eventually compete for a starting role.   

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/josh-huff/32004855-4619-4666-462e-733a8d72faa0

 

🤦‍♂️.  I never said anyone, including the Eagles, looked at him as a starter.   Just that he was on the NFL radar... quoting Nfl.com and showing they had a profile on him pretty much kills the idea that no one had him on the radar except Ducks fans.

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

WIP was talking about it a lot the past week. These teams are looking for the "CEO" type candidate that can handle the press, be a professional, lead a team. Scheme on his side of the ball has no part of the interview much anymore with some of these teams. They said these Owners and GMs get fooled pretty easy over guys that can talk a good game. 

Lets hope Gannon fits that CEO mold they are looking for. 

15 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I dont  know which was worse, chip Kelly or all the stupid faux eagle ducks fans who all disappeared off the board the minute he was fired...

This.

I still remember the "Tao of Chip Kelly"

Idk what these damn toy things are, my nephew bought me a Reggie White funko pop for Christmas. Yes I'm just opening it now. These suppose to be rip off of bobbleheads or something? 

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

https://walterfootball.com/draft2014WR.php

 

 

I guess I was right and they were wrong.  
 

Although Walter Football typically is a decent site. 

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Supply and demand.  There are 8 teams that need a new starting QB.  Some might wait another year hoping the 2023 draft class is better, but a lot won't.  

4 of these teams are picking really early.  NYG, CAR, ATL and DEN all in the top 10.  There won't be 4 QBs gone in the top 10 picks but I bet 2 will -- Pickett and Corral.

Add WFT, NO, PIT as well as some teams decidedly unhappy with their current starter -- CLE, MIN and IND.  That's why I believe there might be a few veteran QBs moving, aside from Wilson and Watson and Jimmy G.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Supply and demand.  There are 8 teams that need a new starting QB.  Some might wait another year hoping the 2023 draft class is better, but a lot won't.  

4 of these teams are picking really early.  NYG, CAR, ATL and DEN all in the top 10.  There won't be 4 QBs gone in the top 10 picks but I bet 2 will -- Pickett and Corral.

Add WFT, NO, PIT as well as some teams decidedly unhappy with their current starter -- CLE, MIN and IND.  That's why I believe there might be a few veteran QBs moving, aside from Wilson and Watson and Jimmy G.

Sounds like we could get value for Hurts before or on draft weekend.

21 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Good Ole Kiper

28 minutes ago, downundermike said:

https://walterfootball.com/draft2014WR.php

 

 

I remember Howie made a point to state this was HIS pick too. 

23 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

In reality there is only 1 first round QB in this draft. That QB should not even be top 10. More of a mid/late round first at best. 

BUT Im sure at least two will go in the first round and one of them will go top 10. Teams always reach for QBs which in turns makes other teams who want that same QB reach even more by trading up even higher to get him. It will never end and always be the case. 

Schefter said on his podcast that he is hearing the first QB off the board is likely to be Willis.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Walter was enamored with Huff.    

That’s a good one.

4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sounds like we could get value for Hurts before or on draft weekend.

I said last year at this time the Eagles should assess the market for both Wentz and Hurts -- it was a cinch both could not return.  

They really should move Hurts now.  If they wait until after next season he's down to the final year of his rookie deal and teams will know they'll have to give him a raise -- almost makes him a rental.  The trade value after the 2022 season will be minimal.

Next year is normally where you'd expect to see a large step (leap) in the QB's effectiveness.  If you feel he's worth keeping next year, the expectation has to be that Hurts will be a top-half NFL starting QB.  Just by going top 15, that means:

3,700 yards passing

67% comp.

22 TD passes

2.5:1 TD/INT ratio (so, 22/9 basically)

The expectation for team W-L record should be 11-6 based on a 9-8 record this season.

 

If Nick and Howie think he's capable of reaching that bar then we will see Hurts in 2022.  Either that or they're forced to settle because they can't acquire an established QB 

 

 

19 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

In reality there is only 1 first round QB in this draft. That QB should not even be top 10. More of a mid/late round first at best. 

BUT Im sure at least two will go in the first round and one of them will go top 10. Teams always reach for QBs which in turns makes other teams who want that same QB reach even more by trading up even higher to get him. It will never end and always be the case. 

So let them reach and push talent down to us 

52 minutes ago, John_C said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/19/howie-roseman-jalen-hurts-has-done-enough-to-be-eagles-starter-in-2022/

This is expected talk... but brutal to read nonetheless.  I guess it is logical "posturing."

Until the Owner/GM fires himself and his enabling lackey, this team is not going to get back to the levels we thought we were going to be at after 2017.  They drew the absolute wrong conclusions about their own abilities following that magical year.  We have been paying the price since and will continue to do so...

I do expect either an "aggressive" move for a QB, in some fashion, or God help us if they same two clowns are ultimately making these three huge picks (I know... "collaborative approach" etc.).  How can you get excited over the current state of the team, with Jalen Hurts as the alleged unquestioned starter and the same idiots making the picks.  At this point, if they had three picks in the top ten I would expect them to get it mostly wrong.

It's funny to think about what failures were Howie and which ones were Chip... one thing is for sure... neither should ever be making selections in a draft.  Ultimately the owner was/is far more involved and responsible for the mess, though he hides his influence behind the lackey.  This appears to be the case with many, if not most owners.  The most successful resist the urge and delegate this enormous responsibility to someone qualified and capable.  Ironically, the Cowboys owner has done this out front and unapologetically for so many years, he and his team have become better than most at identifying and ultimately selecting talented players.

The bottom line is that I don't believe anything they are saying about Hurts.  I think it might be true that Hurts is back but I also think they don't want to do anything to impact Hurts' value.  I am sure part of their thinking.  I think it's more likely than not they make a big move at QB.  I just hope it's not trading all the picks for some rookie they fell in love with at the combine.  I have no doubt the clowns will be involved in the picks.  I do think Lurie wants to win and doesn't tolerate losing well.  My hope is that he can relegate Howie to what he does well, negotiating trades and not making picks.  I don't foresee a situation where Lurie doesn't want input.  I will say last year turned out OK.  Maybe they will follow the same approach.  

15 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Schefter said on his podcast that he is hearing the first QB off the board is likely to be Willis.

Wouldn't surprise me, I mean last year nobody thought Trey Lance was a first rounder but draft comes around and teams get desperate for qbs and boom mid round guys go first round.

It's a qb driven league they'll always be over valued as such 

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Smith deserves better

Do you consider Foles, Bradford, Sanchez, or Flacco mobile?

Lol why not just play wackamole 

They all lasted here quite long compared to Randall, McNabb, Vick, Wentz, Hurts. 

20 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Wouldn't surprise me, I mean last year nobody thought Trey Lance was a first rounder but draft comes around and teams get desperate for qbs and boom mid round guys go first round.

It's a qb driven league they'll always be over valued as such 

Yeah Trey Lance last season was surprising.  He went from "talented but raw” maybe late 1st to 2nd round to top 10 pick within weeks. 

30 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I said last year at this time the Eagles should assess the market for both Wentz and Hurts -- it was a cinch both could not return.  

They really should move Hurts now.  If they wait until after next season he's down to the final year of his rookie deal and teams will know they'll have to give him a raise -- almost makes him a rental.  The trade value after the 2022 season will be minimal.

Next year is normally where you'd expect to see a large step (leap) in the QB's effectiveness.  If you feel he's worth keeping next year, the expectation has to be that Hurts will be a top-half NFL starting QB.  Just by going top 15, that means:

3,700 yards passing

67% comp.

22 TD passes

2.5:1 TD/INT ratio (so, 22/9 basically)

The expectation for team W-L record should be 11-6 based on a 9-8 record this season.

If Nick and Howie think he's capable of reaching that bar then we will see Hurts in 2022.  Either that or they're forced to settle because they can't acquire an established QB

Well, they do count rush yards so I'd be thinking more like 3,400 yards, 65% completion, 7 NY/A, 27-9 (including rush TDs).

This year, 61.3%, 3144 + (784 yards), 16 + (10) - 9, 6.54 NY/A.

He only needs incremental improvement to reach those goals.

Now, I'd ditch the RPO, but Hurts should get 500+ yards on designed runs, QB draws and scrambles. And yes they have value, if you force a team to keep a player in to spy, it takes a player out of the pass rush and coverage. His running has value, not enough to build the offense around it, but enough to augment his passing.

1 minute ago, austinfan said:

Well, they do count rush yards so I'd be thinking more like 3,400 yards, 65% completion, 7 NY/A, 27-9 (including rush TDs).

This year, 61.3%, 3144 + (784 yards), 16 + (10) - 9, 6.54 NY/A.

He only needs incremental improvement to reach those goals.

Now, I'd ditch the RPO, but Hurts should get 500+ yards on designed runs, QB draws and scrambles. And yes they have value, if you force a team to keep a player in to spy, it takes a player out of the pass rush and coverage. His running has value, not enough to build the offense around it, but enough to augment his passing.

Bottom line if he does not drastically improve in:

-Decision making

-Staying in the pocket

-Progressing through reads

-Accuracy

he won’t be here

51 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Sounds like we could get value for Hurts before or on draft weekend.

Honest question, would you support the Eagles brining back Wentz if Indy made a reasonable offer?