16 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I hear ya, but frankly, who would want that job?  Philadelphia is turning into such a mess.

Is there anyplace that isn't at this point?

The World is a cluster F sheet show right now.

 

5 minutes ago, Green_Guinness said:

Is there anyplace that isn't at this point?

The World is a cluster F sheet show right now.

You are correct.

7 hours ago, justrelax said:

A few thoughts on Linderbaum and why I've moved away from taking him.

First off, football has fully embraced the so-called 4i defense, college and pro. I've posted a bit on this before so I'll try to be brief here. The 4i uses three down linemen and two stand-up outside LBs. It looks very much like a standard 3-4 defense but it has some wrinkles. The NT lines up dead on the C. The two other DL line up on the inside shoulders of the OTs. There are a number of things that come from this. The C, being covered, cannot help either OG. He's got his hands full with the biggest DL on the opposition. And stacked directly behind the NT is the MLB, The Gs can help him but not the other way around. If we look back on the Bucs playoff game, it's worth noting that our OZ plays, usually our strength, got nothing, nada, zip. Why? Because the key to our OZ has been Kelce's ability to pull, which he couldn't do in that game. Our backs were constantly tracked down at the LOS by a fast LB - David most often - and the reason for that was that Kelce wasn't there to block him. He had to deal with Vea and David, stacked behind Vea. And because he was squared up on Vea, he couldn't climb to the second level to block the MLB, who had a free run to the outside.

Now, to those two DL on the inside shoulders of the tackles. Essentially, by this alignment and stacking the LB behind the NT, the defense is able to nullify all five OL with four guys, giving them an extra defender. Put another way, the 4i is the defense's answer to zone blocking. The stand-up LBs are well-positioned to set the edge on either side.

There are answers to this. There's a natural double-team block on either DT with the G and OT with the G releasing and climbing to the second level. What makes this problematic is the size of the NT. A really powerful guy, like Vea or Jordan Davis from Georgia,
can shed the block of a smaller C and fill that hole even if the G can climb to the MLB. This is why I've "moved on" from Linderbaum. He's not as good as Kelce and if Kelce can be nullified with this defense, what happens to a lesser C?

Nope. To me, having a more powerful C is the simplest answer to the 4i, a guy who can handle the NT by himself. There's been talk of moving Dickerson over when Kelce retires and I see a lot of merit in it, much as I am loathe to break up the potent left side we have with him and Mailata.

None of this is to say that teams will play 4i all the time. They won't because it does not lend itself to pass defense or pass rush but, as a run defense, it's terrific. Anyway, I'm not in favor of drafting Linderbaum. Give me Green instead.

I'll post the screen shot of the 4i alignment below, as I have before. Feel free to mock me or point out the errors in my thinking. I'm sure there are many.

 

I think there is a strong suggestion that Gannon may seek a variation of the 4i.  I don’t know if you saw my comment that he seems to be targeting as what we think of as a SAM in the traditional 4/3 as players that fit an Elephant role. But the DTs seem more like traditional DTs in size.  The biggest they have is Wren at 318 but 6’5” is awful tall for a NT and pretty easy to get underneath. 

 

5 hours ago, NCiggles said:

In fairness, a 6-9 week recovery time doesn't mean 100% recovery in that time frame.  He could still have functional deficits and muscle loss that will take time to build back.  It's all about throwing in a controlled environment.  A big part of the combine is medical, I imagine the teams will know if there's a larger health issue. 

Greg Ward is a good example. Played most of his last year at UH with a high ankle sprain.  Tweaked it in the all star game and then tried to go at the combine and then again at his pro day.  Result was bad numbers.   I can see why Corral doesn’t want to take that risk. (His numbers will be better than Wards but not what would be expected possibly resulting in him dropping. 

53 minutes ago, mattmcginley7 said:

This is exactly my take too. The hype Wilson is getting is bizarre. Daniel Jeremiah has him as the 6th rated prospect. I don't see it at all

It’s not because he’s an elite prospect but probably because it’s not a draft with any "blue chip” prospects other than Hamilton. Compared to a draft like last years he’s probably in the 10-20 range 

Hard hitting grilling of an interview from Spadaro.

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

His agent must be working OT right now. I’ve seen a couple dozen tweets from various reporters/analysts talking about the "hot market” for Trubisky. 

Trubisky as an option only makes sense if you want to draft a rookie QB and need a stop-gap. 

I think Carson Strong  leaves combine a 3rd rd pick .  Eleby improves his position  . I think Chenal nails the drills . Pitre continues to rise , I have been all over him  , one of my favorite players in the draft .

My impression of the D scheme is optionality; being able to go from a 4i, to something more traditional to a wide 9 to keep O's guessing what you will be doing. It's why the team, if that assumption is on point, should be investing in premium draft picks/FAs on D over some other positions that we'd usually see drafted. Otherwise we get the same meh that we saw last season.

10 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I do like it.  And never thought I would, before we moved down here.  I do still prefer Memphis style.  

Have you ever had Alabama White sauce? It’s surprisingly good.

I’ve never had "Carolina” style that I liked, but I’ve also never had the real stuff in the Carolinas.

KC is the king, IMO. Maybe that’s just because it’s basically what most people grew up on.

11 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

My impression of the D scheme is optionality; being able to go from a 4i, to something more traditional to a wide 9 to keep O's guessing what you will be doing. It's why the team, if that assumption is on point, should be investing in premium draft picks/FAs on D over some other positions that we'd usually see drafted. Otherwise we get the same meh that we saw last season.

If they don't upgrade LB and S, not one or the other, it will be meh. Maybe a little less meh if they go hog wild on the line, but it still will have a ceiling and always will until they change their stubborn stance. 

13 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

If they don't upgrade LB and S, not one or the other, it will be meh. Maybe a little less meh if they go hog wild on the line, but it still will have a ceiling and always will until they change their stubborn stance. 

The DL was good last year, but it was clear as it got backwards from there, it was nowhere near as good and barely average.  With this scheme, fixing the DL may not fix the D in the way we think it would have under Gym Shorts.

It's why, at this moment, I struggle seeing the team taking a WR or OL highly in the draft.  The team needs Yoot on D in the worst possible way

21 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

The DL was good last year, but it was clear as it got backwards from there, it was nowhere near as good and barely average.  With this scheme, fixing the DL may not fix the D in the way we think it would have under Gym Shorts.

It's why, at this moment, I struggle seeing the team taking a WR or OL highly in the draft.  The team needs Yoot on D in the worst possible way

Yeah, I really dislike the defense as well. I hate their stance on LB and S. The d-line is deteriorated too now. They need a lot. 

9 minutes ago, SB52 said:

Have you ever had Alabama White sauce? It’s surprisingly good.

I’ve never had "Carolina” style that I liked, but I’ve also never had the real stuff in the Carolinas.

KC is the king, IMO. Maybe that’s just because it’s basically what most people grew up on.

There's really 3 types of Carolina BBQ sauces.  There's Eastern NC BBQ sauce which is a vinegar based sauce.  There's Western or Lexington style which has tomato.  There's also SC BBQ sauce which has mustard.  

I am not biased and like all three.  The biggest factor is how the pork is cooked.  I mean if the pork is too dry, too greasy or too mushy the sauce doesn't help too much.     

11 hours ago, DoWorx said:

7 out of 10 Howie's.  I'm not sure why the Broncos move down for that price.  I also think the Eagles are going to draft DE in the first and there's probably better value at that position than drafting Lloyd.  I like Watson and Cine.  

11 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I think there is a strong suggestion that Gannon may seek a variation of the 4i.  I don’t know if you saw my comment that he seems to be targeting as what we think of as a SAM in the traditional 4/3 as players that fit an Elephant role. But the DTs seem more like traditional DTs in size.  The biggest they have is Wren at 318 but 6’5” is awful tall for a NT and pretty easy to get underneath. 

 

Which is why it wouldn’t surprise me if we were to draft Jordan Davis.

56 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

If you dont know what white sauce is, it's pretty good.

Once you have the concept of what your eating I cant stomach it lol.

I have a couple grills, smokers and flattops and IMO each "bbq style" has its place.

Brisket is texas. Most Pork I do Carolina's. Ribs I can do KC or Carolina. Georgia style is a spin off of the Carolina stuff and I love to do chicken with it. 

I thought white sauce had mayo in it? I'm not sure how that's any different than cole slaw on a BBQ sandwich.  

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Which is why it wouldn’t surprise me if we were to draft Jordan Davis.

If they draft him, they had better be prepared to draft LBs early as well. Edwards playing behind him would defeat the whole purpose of drafting him.

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

KC and Memphis are the best.  
 

I have seen the white sauce.  But just can’t bring myself to try it.  Same with the SC mustard stuff.  

The mustard is not usually my first choice.  It's fine if you like mustard.  It lacks the spiciness of the NC styles.  I think the mustard is sort of in place of the hot sauce.  

8 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Correct. Gobs and gobs of mayo. 

Mayo is a condiment to the cabbage, carrots, etc making it like 5% of the bite. 

Like I said, if you dont think about what your eating, all good. Once I think about topping wings with mayo I cant do it lol

Mayo is just eggs.  

12 hours ago, Green_Guinness said:

Is there anyplace that isn't at this point?

The World is a cluster F sheet show right now.

 

When hasn't the world been a cluster F? 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Sperm is mostly water 

I'll pass

Well your mom didn't swallow either.