14 minutes ago, greend said:

Not too many guys can hold onto a ball with 1 hand in the pocket and not get it knocked out. 

I see it happen a lot.  Get hit amd are able to cradle to the body.

17 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

I just don't know what they see in him, especially considering he played in the PAC-12.......height doesn't mean that much.

I mean the Eagles and PAC 12 receivers in the first 2 rounds don't have a good history.  I think it's more about how he uses his body to high point balls.  

31 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s going to shoot up the boards.  Guy has crazy tools, good leader, humble.  Just raw and is also one read and run.  

Someone's making a run at the most intangible QB in the league. 

8 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Franchise QB swag?

White socks and sandals = unlimited swag

23 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Most draft people have him as a first round player.  I am not a big fan but I think it's not like JJAW. 

He won’t be that bad, but when he eventually runs a 40, that high 4.58-4.62 isn’t going to help him. 

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

 

A lot of respect for that kid.  It's hard to do something when everyone else chooses not to.  Even harder with everyone watching you as you do it.   

3 hours ago, SB52 said:

26 fumbles in college. Can that be right?

The new Dave Krieg.

37 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s going to shoot up the boards.  Guy has crazy tools, good leader, humble.  Just raw and is also one read and run.  

That’s our current situation 

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

That’s our current situation 

Literally sounds just like Hurts.  

31 minutes ago, EagleVA said:

Drake London in the 1st, UNBELIEVABLE!!  Dude is gong to be Whiteside all over again.

I know it's going to be easy to compare him to JJAW.  Big bodied PAC-12 WR, I get it.

He was unstoppable prior to his injury though.  He played in 8 games this year...had 88 catches for nearly 1100 yards and 7 TDs averaging about 13 yards a catch.  That's insane production.

My 1st guy is Jameson Williams.  I think he's a combination of Chase and Smith.  Then I like Olave.  Problem with both of those guys is we already have Smith who's 160 soaking wet.  Williams and Olave are both basically 6' 190 lb guys.  Quez Watkins is 6' 193.  

I know size isn't everything but I don't like the thought of having three 6' tall guys ranging from 160-190.  Adding a guy like London to the mix at 6-3 220 (I know JJAW) would really add a different element to the passing game.

One crazy measurement....DeVonta Smith has a wingspan of 78 1/2".  Drake London is 3 inches taller than Smith and his wingspan is 77 3/4".  Just shows how big Smith's catch radius is for a guy his size.  

40 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

He’s going to shoot up the boards.  Guy has crazy tools, good leader, humble.  Just raw and is also one read and run.  

He needs to go to a team that has a plan in place for his development.  He can't go to a place that wants him to start Day 1.  He needs to sit on the bench and learn how to play the position.  I can see why a team would target him high in Round 1, but if they do, they need to be smarter than most teams and not throw him to the wolves to be devoured.   He needs the Andy Reid plan.  Just as Andy did with McNabb and with Mahomes... he needs tons of reps in practice, he needs to have it preached to him to go through ALL his progressions and never in practice should he escape the pocket - always a throw away or throw to a target.   The instincts for running won't go away, but he needs to fight those to use it only as a true last resort.  

3 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Literally sounds just like Hurts.  

Not exactly.  Willis is twice the athlete Hurts is, and Hurts' arm cannot be compared to Willis at all.  Sheer 'arm talent' alone pushes Willis up a full round from where Hurts should have been.  He is super raw, but he played at Liberty, not Alabama and OU.  He hasn't had the best coaching and truly does have upside potential.  I'm not going to stump for the kid, but if they pull the trigger on him in Round 1, I could totally understand why.  But, if they do, or any team for that matter, it needs to be done with an eye on the LONG VIEW, not for 2022.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

if they pull the trigger on him in Round 1, I could totally understand why.  But, if they do, or any team for that matter, it needs to be done with an eye on the LONG VIEW, not for 2022.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/2022-nfl-draft-malik-williss-pro-comparison-really-jalen-hurts

Good writeup on Jalen Hurts vs. Malik Willis here.  He says the same things you're saying, bigger arm, more dynamic playmaker. 

TL:DR; Bigger arm than Jalen, more athletic.  Not nearly the same big game, big program, national champion resume that Jalen had.  High ceiling, low floor.

 

 

Do people here really want Malik Willis in R1 this year? Haven't been in here in a few days.

3 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Do people here really want Malik Willis in R1 this year? Haven't been in here in a few days.

I would take any QB at any price. As long as we have a new starter next season. 

37 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know it's going to be easy to compare him to JJAW.  Big bodied PAC-12 WR, I get it.

He was unstoppable prior to his injury though.  He played in 8 games this year...had 88 catches for nearly 1100 yards and 7 TDs averaging about 13 yards a catch.  That's insane production.

My 1st guy is Jameson Williams.  I think he's a combination of Chase and Smith.  Then I like Olave.  Problem with both of those guys is we already have Smith who's 160 soaking wet.  Williams and Olave are both basically 6' 190 lb guys.  Quez Watkins is 6' 193.  

I know size isn't everything but I don't like the thought of having three 6' tall guys ranging from 160-190.  Adding a guy like London to the mix at 6-3 220 (I know JJAW) would really add a different element to the passing game.

One crazy measurement....DeVonta Smith has a wingspan of 78 1/2".  Drake London is 3 inches taller than Smith and his wingspan is 77 3/4".  Just shows how big Smith's catch radius is for a guy his size.  

If they go WR in R1, only one I'd be interested in is Burks.

Just now, WentzFan11 said:

I would take any QB at any price. As long as we have a new starter next season. 

Too short-sighted.

19 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/2022-nfl-draft-malik-williss-pro-comparison-really-jalen-hurts

Good writeup on Jalen Hurts vs. Malik Willis here.  He says the same things you're saying, bigger arm, more dynamic playmaker. 

TL:DR; Bigger arm than Jalen, more athletic.  Not nearly the same big game, big program, national champion resume that Jalen had.  High ceiling, low floor.

 

 

Anyone who looks at Malik Willis and sees Jalen Hurts has other issues going on.  Hurts was a low ceiling QB with a moderately high floor.  He's a 'backup QB'.  It's what I thought he'd be when he came out and nothing he's done has proven otherwise, maybe top of the heap backup, but still a backup.  And when I say backup, I don't even mean the type that can really be a bridge because he forces the offense to be so different due to his limitations.  Willis, on the other hand, has super high potential, but also a super low floor.  He's a boom bust type to me.  

50 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The new Dave Krieg.

Yup, good comp, Krieg played a long time and was a competent QB but his small hands contributed to him breaking the record for most fumbles, since surpassed by farvre in more games.

Where as hurts for what it's worth while not the tallest QB has 9 3/4 hands.

56 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

He had 38 fumbles in college. He lost 26. And now he's going to play with a bigger ball. I'd say that's a problem. 

He’s not even on Howie’s board. Under 9” hands are a MAJOR issue. Howie knows this.

I wouldn’t even think about taking him until the 3rd round.

6 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Do people here really want Malik Willis in R1 this year? Haven't been in here in a few days.

Don't misconstrue what I said, if that's what's throwing you off.  I said I could see why a team would do it, including the Eagles.  He's almost like this year's Trey Lance.  I understood him in Round 1 as well, but not #3.  Though, the classic line for me is if you truly believe in a QB prospect, then there's no such thing as 'too high' for drafting them.  If you are right, he's worth the cost.  If not, you are pretty much screwed anyway.

Yeah, I'm coming around on Willis as well. Good kid, extremely talented. He needs development, but that's what coaching is for.

8 minutes ago, Outlaw said:

Do people here really want Malik Willis in R1 this year? Haven't been in here in a few days.

Malik Willis is a hurts clone with a stronger arm, so I imagine Howie will draft him twice☹️

Just now, SB52 said:

He’s not even on Howie’s board. Under 9” hands are a MAJOR issue. Howie knows this.

I wouldn’t even think about taking him until the 3rd round.

Yeah... except that Howie was seen scouting him at a Pitt game, so we can't be sure what Howie knows or doesn't know.  Howie should have known that JJ was a better WR than Reagor, but didn't.  I will never assume what Howie knows when it comes to the draft.  

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Yeah, I'm coming around on Willis as well. Good kid, extremely talented. He needs development, but that's what coaching is for.

I just feel if they want to roll the dice on a low floor high ceiling guy, that I'd much rather go with Ridder or Strong in R2 or R3.