26 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

These are the comments i dont F****ing get. " I think he's done". LOL. 

3500 yards, 27 touchdowns, 7INT's and went 9-8 with a new team, ya he's done.

Sounds like Kyler Murray is done. Baker Mayfield should just kill himself. Trevor Lawrence should give up now. Jalen Hurts should go play in Canada.

If you took Wentz's body of work, and just changed his name people would be all about him and be more than ok to have him on their team. I dont get it 

 

Yeah I don't think he's "done". But he's decidedly average. And that's fine, I guess. But Murray does suck, he starts hot every year and then declines massively. Mayfield is horrible, but I don't wish suicide on him. TLaw was a rookie, odd to throw him in. And even though we don't want Hurts here in Canada, he would actually thrive in the CFL. 

3500 yards in 17 games isn't good, IMO. It's not bad, it's just....average, at best. 

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yeah I don't think he's "done". But he's decidedly average. And that's fine, I guess. But Murray does suck, he starts hot every year and then declines massively. Mayfield is horrible, but I don't wish suicide on him. TLaw was a rookie, odd to throw him in. And even though we don't want Hurts here in Canada, he would actually thrive in the CFL. 

3500 yards in 17 games isn't good, IMO. It's not bad, it's just....average, at best. 

This seems like an odd statement

Just now, greend said:

This seems like an odd statement

I'm an odd guy, buddy

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

I'm an odd guy, buddy

I'm not your buddy, pal.

2 minutes ago, greend said:

This seems like an odd statement

He’s a borderist 

 

Pretty, pretty good...

 

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

He’s a borderist 

A rabid anti-Hurtsist!

18 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

What's with these back to back 1:50PM QB news dumps? Jimmy G is getting dealt tomorrow. 

So who is it going to be today ??  Colts trade for a QB, Hawks, Eagles ??

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

 

Pretty, pretty good...

 

 

Well, only 5 players would fall with 5 QBs in the first.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, only 5 players would fall with 5 QBs in the first.

You just got to picking at the right place at the right time for that sweet sweet tradeback.

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

So who is it going to be today ??  Colts trade for a QB, Hawks, Eagles ??

Jimmy G to South Philly 

1 minute ago, Waiting4Someday said:

You just got to picking at the right place at the right time for the sweet sweet tradeback.

Yup.  And in that mock, the Eagles land the Detroit 2023 pick, which would be 100% the ideal scenario.  Trade back to 32 (keep the 5th year option, and even keep the option to trade back a little more from there for a team looking to acquire that last 5th year option for a player... AND get what will likely be a premier (best case top 5, worst case top 10) pick from Detroit.

 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  And in that mock, the Eagles land the Detroit 2023 pick, which would be 100% the ideal scenario.  Trade back to 32 (keep the 5th year option, and even keep the option to trade back a little more from there for a team looking to acquire that last 5th year option for a player... AND get what will likely be a premier (best case top 5, worst case top 10) pick from Detroit.

Just our luck Detroit would make the playoffs next year........yeah right, who am I kidding

30 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

And the other half are wrong.  

 

29 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There's only 3 kinds of people in the world. 

Those that can count, and those that can't.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Malik Willis is the perfect example in this draft. He has very good arm talent, but looks to run too quickly and is erratic with his accuracy.   For me, his value is Round 3, not higher.   And as a 3rd round pick, he can be brought along slowly where he's working day in and day out on his pocket awareness, pocket mobility and throwing the ball with proper mechanics from the pocket.  I'd tie his legs together with a bungee in shotgun formation so that he can't actually run, and make him do the subtle pocket movements needed to maneuver within the pocket.   And I'd keep him off the field in a game situation (outside of preseason) until he figured that stuff out.  (And in PS, he'd be told that he needs to throw the ball away rather than run, even if there's a giant lane to run through.  We know he can run, he needs to learn how to play NFL QB, not NCAA QB.)

 

But, some will see the arm talent potential, and jump the gun.  I doubt he's on the board at #15, and almost certainly won't still be on the board in Round 2, some team at the top of Round 2 will likely make the leap up and take him in Round 1, just like the Ravens did with Lamar.  And, there's some logic there, because as a late 1, you still get that 5th year of control, whereas in Round 2, you only get 4 years.  But, it wouldn't make sense for me to make that selection until Round 3.  Too many players available in Rounds 1 and 2 that you'd be passing over to take that big a boom/bust risk.

Because if he is a boom QB it’s all very much worth it. Draft is a lottery and a top QB usually the jackpot even though the chances aren’t actually all that great.

But just because it’s usually good to trade back and get more picks you sometimes can’t and every once in a while you should just cash in your winning ticket.

47 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Theres 12 different options there. 

Option 1) Trade #19 for Deshuan Watson

Option 2) Have Hurts Start

 

99% of the people would take Watson

And the other  1% are on drugs.

Cycling back to the mock from Matt Alkire.  

He double dips at DE with Karlaftis at #16 and then Ojabo at #19.   This intrigues me with the Gannon line shift being much more 3-4 in alignment with the 4i than a more traditional 4-3 with the 3-technique DTs and the DEs out wider.

 

Karlaftis might be the best 4i style DE in this draft (or at least in the first round)... and Ojabo would fit much better at that wide-9 aligned DE than most of the other options.  Bringing in Karlaftis to play the strong side DE in the 4i, and allowing Ojabo to play the wide 9 role makes a lot of sense.  The alignment would allow Karlaftis and Graham to rotate at 4i, and Ojabo and Sweat to rotate at wide-9.  

I don't love this as the top two picks, but I don't hate it either.

1 hour ago, UK Eagle said:

Caplan and Mosher did drop some intel today. Haason Reddick was linked to the Eagles at the combine, plus there was some other stuff about players.  I guess they read here 😉

I couldn't make it past the 10 mins of Caplan trying to read the Falcons OTC page and stumbling through it.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Cycling back to the mock from Matt Alkire.  

He double dips at DE with Karlaftis at #16 and then Ojabo at #19.   This intrigues me with the Gannon line shift being much more 3-4 in alignment with the 4i than a more traditional 4-3 with the 3-technique DTs and the DEs out wider.

 

Karlaftis might be the best 4i style DE in this draft (or at least in the first round)... and Ojabo would fit much better at that wide-9 aligned DE than most of the other options.  Bringing in Karlaftis to play the strong side DE in the 4i, and allowing Ojabo to play the wide 9 role makes a lot of sense.  The alignment would allow Karlaftis and Graham to rotate at 4i, and Ojabo and Sweat to rotate at wide-9.  

I don't love this as the top two picks, but I don't hate it either.

Karlaftis would be the best option for a 4i provided Walker is gone. He has some impressive power rushes. 

3 minutes ago, Infam said:

Because if he is a boom QB it’s all very much worth it. Draft is a lottery and a top QB usually the jackpot even though the chances aren’t actually all that great.

But just because it’s usually good to trade back and get more picks you sometimes can’t and every once in a while you should just cash in your winning ticket.

The presumption being the 'winning' part of this.  The erratic running QB that puts it all together in the pros is a unicorn.  

Yes, if they boom it is very much worth it.  Willis will likely have some team salivating over his raw skill set.  But, those teams that do that, also often times get enamored with the non-sustainable tools they bring to the NFL and neglect the development in the passing game, and you, much more often than not, end up with the bust version, not the boom.  The boom requires careful planning and will power, which is usually what those teams lack, which is why they jump on the boom/bust pick, rather than waiting.  

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

thats my point

Guy 1) forced his way out of town - We hate his guts

Guy 2) Force his way out of town, sexually assaulted 24 women, we'd give our first round pick for him.

 

He’s a mid 20’s kid who wanted women to touch his crank. Assault is a strong word. When my girl even touches me these days it stands at attention. Not excusing what he did.

But if it only takes 1 first rounder and Hurts for him … sayonara Jalen. We’ll get Watson some help. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Karlaftis would be the best option for a 4i provided Walker is gone. He has some impressive power rushes. 

How did I forget Walker!  .  You are correct.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I couldn't make it past the 10 mins of Caplan trying to read the Falcons OTC page and stumbling through it.

Can’t wait til next week when the eagles sign someone and he says we knew but we couldn’t say anything cause it was fluid and things could change 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Can’t wait til next week when the eagles sign someone and he says we knew but we couldn’t say anything cause it was fluid and things could change 

He was the first one on it