8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Love him for what?  His hair?  Or overall Swag?  

I still don't get the appeal and why people LOVE him so much?  Not you, but in general?  So he's not a D Bag....He's not a jerk.....There are tons of average to below average NFL players who are good guys and not D bags.  What makes him so special?  What makes him have all of those intangibles that people love to go to when defending his play?  Without any proof?  

 

 

I think he does love the game and is a good leader.  Seems to have good balance to him - yes, swag, but still humble enough too.  has personality and isn't afraid to show it.  I don't know...I think there is a lot to like minus that whole "QB throwing thing"...

Just now, Utebird said:

I meant playoffs and week 17.

You can't be serious....

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/oklahoma-jalen-hurts-scouting-report-2020-nfl-draft/

Positives
Athletic signal caller who showed flashes of progress last season. Patient in the pocket, naturally looks off the safety and does not take unnecessary chances or risks. Senses the rush, steps up in the pocket to avoid defenders and takes off upfield when nothing else is available. Sets up screen passes well, spreads the ball around and uses all of his receivers.

Knows where his pass catchers are on the field. Remains poised under the rush, shows elusiveness and gets outside the pocket to buy as much time as necessary. Does not take off up the field unless it’s completely necessary. Effectively dumps the ball off to the underneath outlet when nothing else is available.

Throws with an over-the-top delivery, possesses a solid arm and can make all the throws. Creative ball carrier who shows the ability to make defenders miss when he takes off up the field.

Negatives
Late with throws and makes receivers wait for the ball. Makes wide-open receivers struggle to come away with the catch. Does not possess a rifle arm or the ability to drive deep throws. Gets wild with passes when he tries to put extra speed on them. Does not find the safety or players in the back seven. Releases the ball off his back foot on occasion, which results in adverse accuracy. Struggled throughout Senior Bowl week.

 

 

So if you believe THIS scouting report....then he's clearly REGRESSED in every area since being here. Which is it?

His positives are still positives. His negatives IMO are late with throws, arm strength and eliminating bad plays when they're not there. He's way better at reading safeties today than last year. Last year he wouldn't throw deep unless it was MOFC.

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Why is Walter not credible, because it's not a pay site???

Because they make stuff up. 

Most of the Draft Network's scouting reports are free. They go into much more detail and give reasons for their grades. You can disagree with it, but the reasoning is sound.

6 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Where are the JJAW and Barnett buttons? 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

You can't be serious....

I can be serious that's why I said of late 

Week 17 3 for 62 

And playoff 1 for 10.

What's your deal, what's everyone's freaking deal, why when ever somebody post something's everyone's automatic response is to puff their chest and try to prove others wrong???

The poster said Higgins had been ignored for chase I said , well he did have 1000 yards so then said but yeah towards the end not used as much.

So why is your automatic response to call me out???

I'm not a cowboys fan just trying to have civil conversation on a football message board with fellow eagle fans yet it seems harder and harder every day with some as all they want to do is fight.🤷‍♂️ 

 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Because they make stuff up. 

Most of the Draft Network's scouting reports are free. They go into much more detail and give reasons for their grades. You can disagree with it, but the reasoning is sound.

So they made up stuff about Hurts because why?

And the assessment of him seems far more accurate than your preferred site. And again I ask, if you take the Pauline report as truthful, then Hurts has regressed from those things he was allegedly good at. So which is it? 

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

Because they make stuff up. 

Most of the Draft Network's scouting reports are free. They go into much more detail and give reasons for their grades. You can disagree with it, but the reasoning is sound.

Yeah, they had Reagor as the 8th best WR prospect in the 2020 draft.  They forgot to put the 1 in front of the 8.

 

17 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Reagor for Higgins.  

I wonder if the Saints are looking dump Slant Boi - of course he isn't a spring chicken anymore. Can Swag throw a slant?  A lot of moving pieces there.

WalterFootball is incredibly biased.

Just now, Utebird said:

I can be serious that's why I said if late 

Week 17 3 for 62 

And playoff 1 for 10.

What's your deal, what's everyone's freaking deal, why when ever somebody lost something's everyone's symptomatic response is to puff their chest and try to prove others wrong???

The poster said Higgins had been ignored for chase I said , well he did have 1000 yards so then said but yeah towards the end not used as much.

So why is your automatic response to call me out???

I'm not a cowboys fan just trying to have civil conversation on a football message board with fellow eagle fans yet it seems harder and harder every day with some as all they want to do is fight.🤷‍♂️ 

 

Because it's nonsense. You just disregard week 16, which is towards the end of the season....

Positives
Athletic signal caller who showed flashes of progress last season. Patient in the pocket, naturally looks off the safety and does not take unnecessary chances or risks. Senses the rush, steps up in the pocket to avoid defenders and takes off upfield when nothing else is available. Sets up screen passes well, spreads the ball around and uses all of his receivers.

Knows where his pass catchers are on the field. Remains poised under the rush, shows elusiveness and gets outside the pocket to buy as much time as necessary. Does not take off up the field unless it’s completely necessary. Effectively dumps the ball off to the underneath outlet when nothing else is available.

Throws with an over-the-top delivery, possesses a solid arm and can make all the throws. Creative ball carrier who shows the ability to make defenders miss when he takes off up the field.

 

I'm going to speak on the bolded.  If Pauline's scouting report was accurate on these traits (if), then he has undeniably regressed in each of these areas.

Just now, schuy7 said:

WalterFootball is incredibly biased.

I can't deal with that site anymore, makes my computer want to self destruct.

40 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Weaknesses:

Very limited passer

Struggles to see the field

Poor vision

Struggles to read defenses

Slow to work through progressions

Not an accurate passer

One-read quarterback

Arm strength is average

Personality issues

 

That was his pre-draft report. Which of those areas do you think he's improved in? I'll give you personality issues, I suppose....

 

I mean, you're splitting hairs here....both are pretty, pretty, pretty good. 

I think he has made incremental progress with reading defenses. He goes through more than one read a lot more than people give him credit. 

He still hasn’t turned any of those negatives not even neutral, but he has made some progress. 

6 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

WalterFootball is incredibly biased.

Because you don't agree with them makes them biased ??

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Because it's nonsense. You just disregard week 16, which is towards the end of the season....

I didn't disregard it I wasn't specific to your liking sue me, I wasn't talking to you get bent, I'm sick of all you circle jerkers In here busting people's chops over stupid stuff all the time 

And don't get all bent about the circle jerk comment as y'all were on here yesterday joking about your circle jerk 

I treat people on here even those I dont  agree with with a modicum of respect and even when I disagree with someone I can say so without saying what they are saying is  nonsense or trying to call them out to score points with my circle jerk mates.

Im not in the mood for blog BS today.

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Because they make stuff up. 

Most of the Draft Network's scouting reports are free. They go into much more detail and give reasons for their grades. You can disagree with it, but the reasoning is sound.

I don’t get why anyone would go to that site, let alone put any stock into what they say. 

20 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Not for nothing but what League sources does Walter Football have? His only job he has had that website and as an intern at the West Chester Daily.  He's not some NFL insider. 

We just don't tell them Reagor is bad.  It will all work out.  

Usually Charlie Campbell writes up the draft stuff for walter. He seems to have the sources.

3 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I can't deal with that site anymore, makes my computer want to self destruct.

That is true about Walter it's got a bit too many cookies or spam or something, gums everything up.

Just now, Utebird said:

I didn't disregard it I wasn't specific to your liking sue me, I wasn't talking to you get bent bag, I'm sick of all you circle jerkers In here busting people's chops over stupid stuff all the time 

And don't get all bent about the circle jerk comment as y'all were on here yesterday joking about your circle jerk 

I treat people on here even those I dont  agree with with a modicum of respect and even when I disagree with someone I can say so without saying what they are saying is  nonsense or trying to call them out to score points with my circle jerk mates.

Im not in the mood for blog BS today.

Maybe you should log off brah. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Because you don't agree with them makes them biased ??

Because of the things they've wrote about us after we signed Vick and still hold a grudge on our organization. I'm sure there are others too. They're not professional at all.

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So they made up stuff about Hurts because why?

And the assessment of him seems far more accurate than your preferred site. And again I ask, if you take the Pauline report as truthful, then Hurts has regressed from those things he was allegedly good at. So which is it? 

I think it is because they had him as the 7th best prospect behing Fromm and Eason.  They didn't have Jalen Hurts as the second coming, so they are wrong and biased.

37 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Teams in bad cap space situations, teams with players that are unhappy and want to be moved, teams with players that are coming up eligible for a new contract but those teams aren't necessarily wanting to pay them what they want. 

 

For example the Falcons are a team that should really enter a complete rebuild.  They are nearly $6M over the cap in 2022.  Maybe they consider trading Deion Jones? 

 

Saints are over $71M over the cap in 2022.  It's a long shot dream scenario but maybe there is a way to pry Lattimore from them. If they entertained a trade for him, doubtful, would likely require multiple firsts but he's a player that might be worth that especially considering his age. 

 

Vikings are over $12M over the salary cap.  They really should be entering a rebuild with a new GM and HC.  Maybe Danielle Hunter could become available?  He missed 2020 due to injury and then got injured again last year but had 6 sacks through 7 games before that occurred.  An elite pass rusher at only 27 years old. 

 

 

Sounds like people on the Vikings side thing Danielle Hunter could potentially be had. 

Report last year he was unhappy with his contract. 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/vikings-star-pass-rusher-danielle-hunter-unhappy-with-current-deal-could-request-a-trade-per-report/

 

Bunch of recent articles discussing possible trade possibilities around him. 

 

https://heavy.com/sports/minnesota-vikings/danielle-hunter-new-york-jets-trade-rumors/

 

https://sportsnaut.com/4-ideal-danielle-hunter-trade-scenarios-offseason/

 

https://thevikingage.com/2021/03/06/4-trade-destinations-danielle-hunter-minnesota-vikings/

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Maybe you should log off brah. 

Maybe you should get bent, dont call me brah if your going to act like a D, it disingenuous

9 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Where are the JJAW and Barnett buttons? 

Problem with the Barnett button is the button was offsides