8 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This alone does it for me. We could have the ghost of Bobby Layne at QB, and I would prefer him to Watson. We could play with 10 men and I would prefer that to Watson.

I understand the compensation aspect may put some off of him. And truthfully, I don't want to give up multiple 1sts to acquire him. Howie has been decent enough at trades that I'd actually trust him to get that part right (which may be foolish on my part).

As for his contract, meh, that's the going rate for upper tier QB play. No issue with that.

As for his off field issues....well, I understand it will put people off. But I personally don't care. These players come and go, and much like celebrities, people get too invested. And then are ultimately disappointed when the person they've admired turns out to be a scumbag. Whatever Watson did or didn't do is up to the court to decide; it also lends him to potentially being discounted until it's cleared up. If the NFL clears him to play, then I have no issue if he's under centre for us next year (of course, compensation dependent). 

Does this clip have more in it than the one that was posted yesterday?

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Does this clip have more in it than the one that was posted yesterday?

Nope, same clip

37 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Well, I disagree just because an excellent QB makes up for so much in this league.  Excellent QBs make the entire team better, make mediocre coaches better, make GMs better.  Furthermore, with where the Eagles are drafting they aren't getting the "top players", they are getting the next best players.  

This is not an argument to trade for Watson per se as I don't want that scumbag on the Eagles, but as a QB he is very very close to being worth the picks, money and Hurts.

Maybe.  But not in all cases.  For example, the Eagles made the playoffs this year with a 1st year starting QB who struggled at times during the season.  Having a stout offensive line,  with decent RB's and young WR's got it done.  Now we have 3 more 1st round picks in which we can draft a QB if we really want to.  Plus a plethora of additional talent....all on team friendly rookie deals.  Barring injuries, the team should get better by default. 

And ask yourself this....how many Super Bowls has Aaron Rodgers won?  Top 3 QB in the league for the past decade with only 1 title.  How about Wilson?  How about Watson?  

We won a Super Bowl with a backup QB.  I would much rather have a super solid and young team with an above-average QB then a "Super star" at QB and a bad team around him.  

21 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I understand the compensation aspect may put some off of him. And truthfully, I don't want to give up multiple 1sts to acquire him. Howie has been decent enough at trades that I'd actually trust him to get that part right (which may be foolish on my part).

As for his contract, meh, that's the going rate for upper tier QB play. No issue with that.

As for his off field issues....well, I understand it will put people off. But I personally don't care. These players come and go, and much like celebrities, people get too invested. And then are ultimately disappointed when the person they've admired turns out to be a scumbag. Whatever Watson did or didn't do is up to the court to decide; it also lends him to potentially being discounted until it's cleared up. If the NFL clears him to play, then I have no issue if he's under centre for us next year (of course, compensation dependent). 

So iff Jeffrey Dahmer was the eagles QB you'd be fine with it?

Just now, Utebird said:

So off Jeffrey Dahmer was the eagles QB you'd be fine with it?

Well no. The NFL wouldn't allow a known serial killer to play, as far as I know.

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So off Jeffrey Dahmer was the eagles QB you'd be fine with it?

A little extreme of a comparison.  Where you fine with Vick ??

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

So off Jeffrey Dahmer was the eagles QB you'd be fine with it?

Can he get to his second read?

 

5 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So off Jeffrey Dahmer was the eagles QB you'd be fine with it?

Talk about chewing up what's left of the cap

Apparently there is talk that Brian Johnson is the running for the Hurricanes’ OC job, according to Matt Mullen. 

7 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Can he get to his second read?

 

He could really carve up a defense.

4 minutes ago, Swoop said:

Can he get to his second read?

 

It’s funny nowadays you might have a zone beater on one side of the field and a man beater on the other, so if you can recognize zone/man pre-snap the progressions aren’t overly complex.  Oh course, if the D disguises it to some degree you’ll need to be able to read as they say.

3 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Apparently there is talk that Brian Johnson is the running for the Hurricanes’ OC job, according to Matt Mullen. 

This makes sense. Johnson is a college guy and being an OC is a big deal.

9 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Well no. The NFL wouldn't allow a known serial killer to play, as far as I know.

Dead serial killer to be fair...

But a serial sexual assaulter is ok???

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A little extreme of a comparison.  Where you find with Vick ??

Vick paid his dues, took his lumps made amends, 

Flyers are making history.  What they did is hard to accomplish in an entire season, let alone half a season.  How about that shut down goalie, Carter Hart?

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Dead serial killer to be fair...

But a serial sexual assaulter is ok???

I don't think he's been convicted of anything so far? 

I'm never going to meet Watson, he'll never meet my family, I'll never buy his jersey, I'll have no interaction with him at all, except for Sundays when he's our QB (Assuming we acquire him). And in 5-10 years, he won't be around anymore, and I'll have even less to do with him then. So yeah, I don't really care about what he does, if he's given the green light by the league to play football, then I'm good with that. 

Again, I said I understand why people wouldn't want him for off field reasons. I simply don't care about them. I would gladly welcome Tyreek Hill and Kareem Hunt on the team as well. 

The Bills' approach in NYG would be interesting. Gettleman hired a lot of the Bills staff in the first place in Carolina.

13 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Apparently there is talk that Brian Johnson is the running for the Hurricanes’ OC job, according to Matt Mullen. 

That works. With Hurts not being the starter, we don’t need his coach. 

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

That works. With Hurts not being the starter, we don’t need his coach. 

Do we still get two thirds for him if he goes? 

Watson/Rodgers/Wilson are all short term win now. This team is not ready to win now, the defense is way behind in talent.

Any other FA QB like Carr/Jimmy G/Winston is going to be using resources for a lateral move. Sure, they may be better passers than Hurts, but they are not going to push the team over the edge and lead them into a deep playoff run.

Drafting a QB this year could help move the needle. If the FO believes in one of the QBs in this draft and they are in position to get them, then they should pull the trigger. Draft pick/Hurts/Minshew should all compete in camp.

Spend the off season building the rest of the team in FA and through the draft. Pick up some good defensive pieces and have Hurts and Minshew compete in camp to start then re-evaluate in 2023. Maybe there are better QB prospects or maybe there is a FA/Trade the FO really likes.

I'm not sold that Hurts is a starter let alone the long term answer, but his and Minshew's contracts are dirt cheap and give the team a lot of flexibility on the direction they want to go.

Just now, wussbasket said:

Watson/Rodgers/Wilson are all short term win now. This team is not ready to win now, the defense is way behind in talent.

Any other FA QB like Carr/Jimmy G/Winston is going to be using resources for a lateral move. Sure, they may be better passers than Hurts, but they are not going to push the team over the edge and lead them into a deep playoff run.

Drafting a QB this year could help move the needle. If the FO believes in one of the QBs in this draft and they are in position to get them, then they should pull the trigger. Draft pick/Hurts/Minshew should all compete in camp.

Spend the off season building the rest of the team in FA and through the draft. Pick up some good defensive pieces and have Hurts and Minshew compete in camp to start then re-evaluate in 2023. Maybe there are better QB prospects or maybe there is a FA/Trade the FO really likes.

I'm not sold that Hurts is a starter let alone the long term answer, but his and Minshew's contracts are dirt cheap and give the team a lot of flexibility on the direction they want to go.

So you don't think we'll have enough to win in 2-5 years? Watson would be a "win now" and "win later" move. Hurts is a "win never" move and a rookie is a "who knows" move.

4 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

That works. With Hurts not being the starter, we don’t need his coach. 

 

Everyone here in full blown denial.  Hurts is the starter in 2022.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Not really.  Hurts is going into his 2nd full season on a team that's in the middle of a 2 year rebuild.   (Meaning he has not reached his ceiling yet)  Watson is a seasoned vet who has put up spectacular numbers during the regular seasons....although his numbers haven't always translated to wins....or playoff wins. 

Selling the franchise and spending 40+ mil per season on a QB with side issues, that hasn't won in the playoffs, would be among the worst moves I've seen...Especially since you have (at least) another year+ of a window before they are expected to go deep into the playoffs.  AND when you already have a QB who has yet to reach his ceiling.  

 

I hate to break this to you ..... but, Hurts is pretty much at his ceiling.  

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Watson/Rodgers/Wilson are all short term win now. This team is not ready to win now, the defense is way behind in talent.

Any other FA QB like Carr/Jimmy G/Winston is going to be using resources for a lateral move. Sure, they may be better passers than Hurts, but they are not going to push the team over the edge and lead them into a deep playoff run.

Drafting a QB this year could help move the needle. If the FO believes in one of the QBs in this draft and they are in position to get them, then they should pull the trigger. Draft pick/Hurts/Minshew should all compete in camp.

Spend the off season building the rest of the team in FA and through the draft. Pick up some good defensive pieces and have Hurts and Minshew compete in camp to start then re-evaluate in 2023. Maybe there are better QB prospects or maybe there is a FA/Trade the FO really likes.

I'm not sold that Hurts is a starter let alone the long term answer, but his and Minshew's contracts are dirt cheap and give the team a lot of flexibility on the direction they want to go.

Not to mention that their could be some trade value there down the road.