Any QBs on this list you'd be excited to see in Eagles Green on Sundays?

[time2rock]

This is like you’re unhappy being married to Rosie O’Donnell and are choosing from a list of Roseann Barr, Whoopi Goldberg, and Star Jones to hook up with.  

[birdman#12]

I'd be interested to see Minshew play this season....although it would take Hurts getting hurt or being really bad.....but there is nobody on that list that I would want to see at QB for the Birds.

 

[UK_EaglesFan89]

32 minutes ago, birdman#12 said:

I'd be interested to see Minshew play this season....although it would take Hurts getting hurt or being really bad.....but there is nobody on that list that I would want to see at QB for the Birds.

 

And to be honest I don't think Hurts is ever going to be that bad consistently to end up being benched. 

[time2rock]

1 hour ago, birdman#12 said:

I'd be interested to see Minshew play this season....although it would take Hurts getting hurt or being really bad.....but there is nobody on that list that I would want to see at QB for the Birds.

 

It wouldn’t make any sense to bring any of them in … none are any better than what we already have.  

I really want two things but they can’t coexist.  I want to see Hurts in year 2 (for those ready to throw it back that he is entering year 3 and had 4 starts under Pederson yeah yeah whatever) to see how much improvement (if any) he made.  I also would love to see what Minshew could do with a full season.  Tough situation to be in.  

[birdman#12]

5 minutes ago, time2rock said:

It wouldn’t make any sense to bring any of them in … none are any better than what we already have.  

I really want two things but they can’t coexist.  I want to see Hurts in year 2 (for those ready to throw it back that he is entering year 3 and had 4 starts under Pederson yeah yeah whatever) to see how much improvement (if any) he made.  I also would love to see what Minshew could do with a full season.  Tough situation to be in.  

I agree.......they need to find out one way or another with Hurts, but Minshew has played really well with bad Jags teams.  But if the rumors are true that Lurie loves the dual threat QB, Minshew is never going to get a shot here.....He may even get traded this offseason for a draft pick and one of those guys on the list will be brought in to be the backup.

[time2rock]

12 minutes ago, birdman#12 said:

I agree.......they need to find out one way or another with Hurts, but Minshew has played really well with bad Jags teams.  But if the rumors are true that Lurie loves the dual threat QB, Minshew is never going to get a shot here.....He may even get traded this offseason for a draft pick and one of those guys on the list will be brought in to be the backup.

Trading Minshew who is on his cheap rookie contract and then signing one of those QBs on that list (for what would surely be much more $) would be another dumb move considering our cap situation.  Now if we were able to get a day 2 pick for him (we won’t) then perhaps it would be worth it … basically the equivalent of buying a decent draft pick.  

[jsdarkstar]

No QB's interest me this year. And my fear is Howie is going to spend a first round pick on a QB from Liberty who is a Hurts clone, stronger arm, but his football IQ, touch and accuracy are question marks. That's my biggest concern. 

[IINorthStar]

2 hours ago, time2rock said:

It wouldn’t make any sense to bring any of them in … none are any better than what we already have.  

I really want two things but they can’t coexist.  I want to see Hurts in year 2 (for those ready to throw it back that he is entering year 3 and had 4 starts under Pederson yeah yeah whatever) to see how much improvement (if any) he made.  I also would love to see what Minshew could do with a full season.  Tough situation to be in.  

Sorry if I'm reaching but what do u think hurts ceiling is realistically? 

[time2rock]

18 minutes ago, IINorthStar said:

Sorry if I'm reaching but what do u think hurts ceiling is realistically? 

I don’t think that really matters.  I think what matters most is that there won’t be any realistic/rational options available this off-season so the smartest strategy is to roll one more year with Hurts (or Minshew) by default and set ourselves up to make a run at a QB next April when the class should be much stronger. Meanwhile make the focus of this off-season to add as much talent possible to the other areas of the roster.  

[EagleJoe8]

5 hours ago, time2rock said:

This is like you’re unhappy being married to Rosie O’Donnell and are choosing from a list of Roseann Barr, Whoopi Goldberg, and Star Jones to hook up with.  

Yikes. I think we now know why they invented PornHub.

[opa-opa]

I dunno why we don't just start Minshew.

In just two games he has already proven he is a much better passer than Hurts.

Running QBs are like that sexy hot girl you want to date but you know isn't marriage material.  The vast majority of Superbowls are won by immobile QBs who just throw from the pocket.

[ManchesterEagle]

9 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

I agree.......they need to find out one way or another with Hurts, but Minshew has played really well with bad Jags teams.  But if the rumors are true that Lurie loves the dual threat QB, Minshew is never going to get a shot here.....He may even get traded this offseason for a draft pick and one of those guys on the list will be brought in to be the backup.

 

6 hours ago, time2rock said:

I don’t think that really matters.  I think what matters most is that there won’t be any realistic/rational options available this off-season so the smartest strategy is to roll one more year with Hurts (or Minshew) by default and set ourselves up to make a run at a QB next April when the class should be much stronger. Meanwhile make the focus of this off-season to add as much talent possible to the other areas of the roster.  

 

4 hours ago, opa-opa said:

I dunno why we don't just start Minshew.

In just two games he has already proven he is a much better passer than Hurts.

Running QBs are like that sexy hot girl you want to date but you know isn't marriage material.  The vast majority of Superbowls are won by immobile QBs who just throw from the pocket.

On Minshew, upside is a major factor. He had 20 games as a starter before coming to the Eagles and the most the Jags could get for him was a 6th rounder, despite him earning next to nothing. He is a gamer who reads the field well and can win games for you. But he has a weak arm and isn’t that accurate or mobile. He looked great against the Jets, but they were literally the worst D in the league and were preparing for Hurts.

Hurts is not nearly as bad a passer as the majority of this board would have you believe.  He’s actually pretty accurate on his short and intermediate throws. The issues with Hurts lie with his arm strength (far from a noodle arm, but not great), his reads and his anticipation/ability to throw receivers open. His deep ball also isn’t great due to a combination of arm strength and mechanics.

But his running and mobility allow him to make plays and convert 3rd downs that most other QBs can’t. It makes him a pretty effective QB. It’s a question as to whether his weaknesses can be improved to the point where he is a potential top 10 player and there are legitimate concerns that he can’t improve to that level.

But with the state of the Eagles and state of the QB market, it makes sense to get him a legitimate number 2 WR and find out next year.

[Bwestbrook36]

A thread about QBs that turned into a " hurts should start this season debate" what a surprise!

[20dawk4life]

Bring in Mariota as a F you to Chip

[20dawk4life]

13 hours ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Yikes. I think we now know why they invented PornHub.

And boob threads 

[ManchesterEagle]

4 hours ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

A thread about QBs that turned into a " hurts should start this season debate" what a surprise!

Well obviously. Hurts is the starter and the only reason you would bring in a free agent would be to be at least the temporary starter.

[Bleed Green]

Hurts SUCKS! Period end of discussion. I’ve seen enough I don’t need to see any more. That’s my opinion.  BUT I’d still give him 1 more season only because this years draft class of QB’s are not that great. With that being said, I know Howie he will most likely draft a QB so IF that’s the case I’d like it to be Kenny Pickett or Carson Strong. Yes I will be mad/upset if it’s anyone else.  

[Bleed Green]

I have a Howie (dumb idea) let’s draft 3 new QB’s Kenny Pickett, Carson Strong and Matt Corral or Malik Willis and let them battle it out in training camp with Hurts and Minshew. 

[20dawk4life]

4 minutes ago, Bleed Green said:

I have a Howie (dumb idea) let’s draft 3 new QB’s Kenny Pickett, Carson Strong and Matt Corral or Malik Willis and let them battle it out in training camp with Hurts and Minshew. 

Qb Factory!!!!!

[Bleed Green]

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  15.
  Sam Howell

  QB North Carolina
   
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  16.
  Carson Strong

  QB Nevada
   
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  19.
  Kenny Pickett

[UK_EaglesFan89]

2 hours ago, Bleed Green said:

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  15.
  Sam Howell

  QB North Carolina
   
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  16.
  Carson Strong

  QB Nevada
   
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  19.
  Kenny Pickett

QB Factory. 

[Mortimer]

1. QB

2. QB

3. ???

4. Profit

[birdman#12]

On 2/4/2022 at 4:04 AM, ManchesterEagle said:

 

 

On Minshew, upside is a major factor. He had 20 games as a starter before coming to the Eagles and the most the Jags could get for him was a 6th rounder, despite him earning next to nothing. He is a gamer who reads the field well and can win games for you. But he has a weak arm and isn’t that accurate or mobile. He looked great against the Jets, but they were literally the worst D in the league and were preparing for Hurts.

Hurts is not nearly as bad a passer as the majority of this board would have you believe.  He’s actually pretty accurate on his short and intermediate throws. The issues with Hurts lie with his arm strength (far from a noodle arm, but not great), his reads and his anticipation/ability to throw receivers open. His deep ball also isn’t great due to a combination of arm strength and mechanics.

But his running and mobility allow him to make plays and convert 3rd downs that most other QBs can’t. It makes him a pretty effective QB. It’s a question as to whether his weaknesses can be improved to the point where he is a potential top 10 player and there are legitimate concerns that he can’t improve to that level.

But with the state of the Eagles and state of the QB market, it makes sense to get him a legitimate number 2 WR and find out next year.

The narrative that Minshew has a weak arm is simply not true.  And not accurate?  I don't know where this comes from.....Minshew has great instincts, moves well in the pocket, can read defenses, go thru progressions and can throw a guy open.....There are plenty of guys with cannons for arms that can't pass for sh--.

I'm all for the eagles giving Hurts another year to prove himself, but as of now, Minshew is a way better passer than Hurts.  The only reason Minshew is not a starter is because of where he was drafted......that's it.  Everything he's done in his 22 starts would absolutely thrill teams had he been drafted in the 1st round.  Compare him to guys that were drafted in the last 3 years.

And until a "dual threat" QB wins a super bowl, I'll take a pocket passer any day.......you don't win big games with a happy feet QB........and don't tell me Mahommes or Wilson....both of them do waaaaay more damage with their passing.

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[ManchesterEagle]

4 hours ago, birdman#12 said:

The narrative that Minshew has a weak arm is simply not true.  And not accurate?  I don't know where this comes from.....Minshew has great instincts, moves well in the pocket, can read defenses, go thru progressions and can throw a guy open.....There are plenty of guys with cannons for arms that can't pass for sh--.

I'm all for the eagles giving Hurts another year to prove himself, but as of now, Minshew is a way better passer than Hurts.  The only reason Minshew is not a starter is because of where he was drafted......that's it.  Everything he's done in his 22 starts would absolutely thrill teams had he been drafted in the 1st round.  Compare him to guys that were drafted in the last 3 years.

And until a "dual threat" QB wins a super bowl, I'll take a pocket passer any day.......you don't win big games with a happy feet QB........and don't tell me Mahommes or Wilson....both of them do waaaaay more damage with their passing.

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Look, I like Minshew, but if he was so good, why could the Jags not get more than a 6th for him? Forget where he was drafted, as you say he's had over 20 starts and the league scouts will have lots of tape on him.

Yes - Hurts needs to improve his passing, But Wilson is, or was a dual threat QB. The two times he did get to the Super Bowl (and they should have won both of them), the Seahawks were built around a great D and a relatively conservative offense that used Lynch and Wilson's legs to move the chains. Wilson ran for nearly 1400 yards over those two regular seasons.

Hurts is not Wilson and I'm not sure if he can improve his passing sufficiently to be the long term answer here (but it's not nearly as bad as some on this board make out)

But anyway we are both agreed that unless an incredible option comes out of nowhere, we are best rolling with Hurts this year and trying to get extra picks for the 2023 draft so we have options to replace him.

[AngryBird]

On 2/3/2022 at 5:23 PM, birdman#12 said:

I'd be interested to see Minshew play this season....although it would take Hurts getting hurt or being really bad.....but there is nobody on that list that I would want to see at QB for the Birds.

 

Minshew is definitely better than every single QB on that list. Winston's arguably the most talented out of them all but he also will throw five picks a game if you let him.