March 30, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, mikemack8 said: Common sense left the building a while back, brah Definitely agree with this. In my opinion, both polarized sides of this issue are pretty much way off. One side - 2nd grade teachers all around the country are out here convincing my child to be gay/trans/owlkin!!!!!11!! Other side - The govt is saying we have to ban gay people from the classroom!!!11!! It's all a show. Neither are true.
March 30, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, toolg said: It is not either/or proposition. Kids should be learning from all sources. I feel this bill is overreach. Take your politics out of schools. Let the teachers teach. Kids in K-3 aren't learning about sex. What are you thinking? So, the libs start using schools to discuss sexual orientation after spending decades convincing us that we only need schools to make people into informed voters, law makers attempt to cut the excess, and now we're the ones accused of being political in school?
March 30, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Make a wedge-issue bill designed to get national media attention. "Why all the national media attention?" Why is something we all agree on a "wedge-issue" bill that causes the media to instantly lie about it?
March 30, 20223 yr By the way, this is why public school will always be inferior to private school. Nothing to do with money or teacher pay. Its the fact that there must always be a vote and people have no choice when the vote doesnt go their way, so they're forced to co-exist when they otherwise wouldn't.
March 30, 20223 yr Let's ban kryptonite. It makes Superman weak. Ban the One Ring of Sauron. Since we're going full fantasy here... That's my new platform. I don't want politics overreaching into schools. That's why I side against it.
March 30, 20223 yr Just now, toolg said: Let's ban kryptonite. It makes Superman weak. Ban the One Ring of Sauron. Since we're going full fantasy here... That's my new platform. I don't want politics overreaching into schools. That's why I side against it. Good, then you agree teachers should stick to their subject and not stray into gender studies
March 30, 20223 yr Author 3 minutes ago, toolg said: Let's ban kryptonite. It makes Superman weak. Ban the One Ring of Sauron. Since we're going full fantasy here... That's my new platform. I don't want politics overreaching into schools. That's why I side against it. You're getting emotional over the banning of something that isn't even happening according to you. Do you find that strange?
March 30, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: You're getting emotional over the banning of something that isn't even happening according to you. Do you find that strange? Emotional? Do you get emotional and post on EMB? Stop tagging me and responding to my posts. I'll stop responding.
March 30, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Why is something we all agree on a "wedge-issue" bill that causes the media to instantly lie about it? You're seriously asking why a bill about gay stuff is a wedge issue?
March 30, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: You're seriously asking why a bill about gay stuff is a wedge issue? Specifically, why is a ban on public school teachers teaching kindergarteners about gender identity a "wedge issue?"
March 30, 20223 yr It definitely will create difficulties for kids and teachers. I remember years ago when I was working at an amusement park as a teenager these two little twin girls came up to play my game. They were Asian and obviously adopted, and they both were wearing shirts reading "My mommies love me." A very real situation that could arise in an elementary school classroom could be a kid asking, "Can someone have two mommies/daddies?" In that situation, what's the teacher to do? Shun the student for asking the question? Tell them "No, that's ridiculous" and potentially make kids of LGBTQ parents feel foolish, isolated, or unloved? Wouldn't the reasonable thing to do just to be to say "Yes, of course, any loving couple can be parents."
March 30, 20223 yr Author 3 minutes ago, toolg said: Emotional? Do you get emotional and post on EMB? Stop tagging me and responding to my posts. I'll stop responding. Yes, quite often. I just find it hilarious that you are this butthurt about a bill that doesn't affect anything anyway because it isn't happening.
March 30, 20223 yr 38 minutes ago, toolg said: It has nothing to do with sex. It has to do with family. It is 2022. In today's world kids can have parents who are male/female, male/male, female/female, single male, single female, step-parents, etc. Kids at that age are incredibly curious. They must understand the difference in family makeup between their own, their friends, and classmates. Sex education doesn't start until middle school, and those lessons are about body parts and their function as the kids are navigating puberty.... To those who support the bill, especially those who came up with it... What disgusting things are you thinking? I can't even fathom. It is gross. And Florida schools are a whole mess amongst themselves. That's a whole another subject. Last thing they need is a bunch of politicians dictating what they do. Like keeping the authority with parents where it belongs?
March 30, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It definitely will create difficulties for kids and teachers. I remember years ago when I was working at an amusement park, as a teenager these two little twin girls came up to play my game. They were Asian and obviously adopted, and they both were wearing shirts reading "My mommies love me." A very real situation that could arise in an elementary school classroom could be a kid asking "Can someone have two mommies/daddies?" In that situation, what's the teacher to do? Shun the student for asking the question? Tell them "No, that's ridiculous" and potentially make kids of LGBTQ parents feel foolish, isolated, or unloved? This wouldnt have been an issue but for the SJW crowd creating such a problem that now we had to make a law to stop them
March 30, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It definitely will create difficulties for kids and teachers. I remember years ago when I was working at an amusement park, as a teenager these two little twin girls came up to play my game. They were Asian and obviously adopted, and they both were wearing shirts reading "My mommies love me." A very real situation that could arise in an elementary school classroom could be a kid asking "Can someone have two mommies/daddies?" In that situation, what's the teacher to do? Shun the student for asking the question? Tell them "No, that's ridiculous" and potentially make kids of LGBTQ parents feel foolish, isolated, or unloved? How about the teacher just say, "Billy, we're learning about fractions right now, please stick to the subject." I honestly have no idea what occurs in public schools nowadays that this is at all difficult. Just absurd.
March 30, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It definitely will create difficulties for kids and teachers. I remember years ago when I was working at an amusement park, as a teenager these two little twin girls came up to play my game. They were Asian and obviously adopted, and they both were wearing shirts reading "My mommies love me." A very real situation that could arise in an elementary school classroom could be a kid asking "Can someone have two mommies/daddies?" In that situation, what's the teacher to do? Shun the student for asking the question? Tell them "No, that's ridiculous" and potentially make kids of LGBTQ parents feel foolish, isolated, or unloved? The bill doesn't say that. It literally says a school district cannot encourage classroom discussion of gender and sexuality at those young ages. A teacher answering an isolated question does not fall under this bill.
March 30, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Like keeping the authority with parents where it belongs? If you don't want your kids to get any of that school learnin', don't send them to school.
March 30, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: Specifically, why is a ban on public school teachers teaching kindergarteners about gender identity a "wedge issue?" Specifically, because it's about gay stuff. Are you really this retarded?
March 30, 20223 yr Author Just now, BirdsFanBill said: The bill doesn't say that. It literally says a school district cannot encourage classroom discussion of gender and sexuality. A teacher answering an isolated question does not fall under this bill. Yep, he fell victim to fake news. I'm shocked.
March 30, 20223 yr Just now, BirdsFanBill said: The bill doesn't say that. It literally says a school district cannot encourage classroom discussion of gender and sexuality. A word like "encourage" is open to being widely interpreted, though.
March 30, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It definitely will create difficulties for kids and teachers. I remember years ago when I was working at an amusement park as a teenager these two little twin girls came up to play my game. They were Asian and obviously adopted, and they both were wearing shirts reading "My mommies love me." A very real situation that could arise in an elementary school classroom could be a kid asking, "Can someone have two mommies/daddies?" In that situation, what's the teacher to do? Shun the student for asking the question? Tell them "No, that's ridiculous" and potentially make kids of LGBTQ parents feel foolish, isolated, or unloved? Wouldn't the reasonable thing to do just to be to say "Yes, of course, any loving couple can be parents." thats just a question, not a lesson.
March 30, 20223 yr Author Just now, VanHammersly said: Specifically, because it's about gay stuff. Are you really this retarded? So democrats and the media have no choice but to cause an uproar over a bill and blatantly lie about what's in it even though it doesn't effect anything anyway because no one is teaching it simply because "it's about gay stuff?" OK, dude, that makes total sense.
March 30, 20223 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: thats just a question, not a lesson. I honestly haven't read the bill, but from what I understand, there is a lot of grey area in what qualifies as "teaching."
March 30, 20223 yr Just now, EaglesRocker97 said: A word like "encourage" is open to being widely interpreted, though. That is true. But your example would not apply. I would think the application of the bill could really only legally be directed at curriculum or policy. Personally, I think the bill is a non issue. The bill and the media reaction is just both sides revving up their mindless bases to bicker with one another.
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