April 11, 20223 yr Author 44 minutes ago, Toastrel said: CDC warns of 'large, ongoing' meningitis outbreak in Florida among gay and bisexual men https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/04/11/meningitis-outbreak-florida/7273674001/ Please do not talk about this to Florida's youth. Definitely something non-binary kindergarten teachers should be telling the 5-year-olds they teach.
April 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Well it's already a taboo topic in public schools. I don't know about you, but I didn't learn anything about religion in Philadelphia public schools. Somehow, we survived.
April 12, 20223 yr I’d be more inclined to teach this stuff in say 6th grade when the kids are in middle school but those cartoons look fine to me for a 12 or 13 yr old.
April 12, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Procus said: Well it's already a taboo topic in public schools. It's not taboo; religion is a critical part of the social studies curriculum. You're just supposed to give each religion equal treatment and study it within an academic framework, not promote a particular faith.
April 12, 20223 yr Author 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Organized religion is a scourge. Wow, a Bernie Bro NPC leftist has an axe to grind against organized religion! Who would have ever guessed? I'm reeling rn.
April 12, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: Wow, a Bernie Bro NPC leftist has an axe to grind against organized religion! Who would have ever guessed? I'm reeling rn. Oh, I've hated religion since long before I even knew who Bernie was. Must've been that Catholic upbringing...
April 12, 20223 yr Author 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Oh, I've hated religion since long before I even knew who Bernie was. Must've been that Catholic upbringing... Oh, I didn't mean to suggest it was your infatuation with Bernie that lead to your hatred of "organized religion." You just have a cookie cutter/NPC leftist view on literally everything. It would have been shocking if you had any other view on religion than that.
April 12, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Oh, I've hated religion since long before I even knew who Bernie was. Must've been that Catholic upbringing... I don't hate religion. I just don't believe any of them are likely to be true.
April 12, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Organized religion is a scourge. Be careful what you wish for: https://www.thedailybeast.com/americas-losing-faith-and-that-makes-the-next-trump-all-but-inevitable Quote During the 2016 GOP primary, for example, one of the best predictors of whether a person would support Donald Trump was regular church attendance. Self-identified Christians might have supported him, but as The Washington Post noted at the time, "Trump does best among evangelicals with one key trait: They don’t really go to church.” Church membership also denotes community and social connection, and these were also key predictors of Trump supporters in 2016. Parts of the nation with low social capital—places where people go bowling (or worshiping) alone—were more susceptible to Trumpism. As conservative writer Tim Carney noted, "Given two different counties with the same demographics and economics, the one with weaker or fewer community institutions was more likely to support Trump.” To be sure, this didn’t translate to supporting Hillary Clinton (white evangelicals overwhelmingly backed Trump in the general election), but it did correlate with their opposition to Trump in the primary. If more evangelicals had attended church, Trump would have never won the Republican nomination. Most people need to believe in something bigger than themselves. They need an example to follow. That may not be the case for liberals, but it sure as hell is for the right. As their interest in the example laid out by Jesus fades, their interest in the example laid out by fascists like Trump will rise. The left would be wise to remember that.
April 12, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Be careful what you wish for: https://www.thedailybeast.com/americas-losing-faith-and-that-makes-the-next-trump-all-but-inevitable Most people need to believe in something bigger than themselves. They need an example to follow. That may not be the case for liberals, but it sure as hell is for the right. As their interest in the example laid out by Jesus fades, their interest in the example laid out by fascists like Trump will rise. The left would be wise to remember that. You are right. I have read some pieces connecting the rise of Trumpism with our loss of religion as a nation. Alternatively, you see a similar sort of thing on the left with their own kind of religious awakening in the form of wokeism. Politics is replacing religion, but I'd also argue that religion has long held too much sway over and had a corrosive effect on our body politic. Generally, though, I just think about the amount of human suffering throughout history that is either directly or indirectly attributable to religion, and it's pretty staggering.
April 12, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: You are right. I have read some pieces connecting the rise of Trumpism with our loss of religion as a nation. Alternatively, you see a similar sort of thing on the left with their own kind of religious awakening in the form of wokeism. Politics is replacing religion, but I'd also argue that religion has long held too much sway over and had a corrosive effect on our body politic. Generally, though, I just think about the amount of human suffering throughout history that is either directly or indirectly attributable to religion, and it's pretty staggering. I agree about the left, though it's manifested itself in a form of collective humanism as opposed to the political cult on the right and it started long before this recent drop in religious attendance. It tracks more to the civil rights/free love era and then exploded in the internet age. As for the bolded, something's going to fill the void, no matter what you do. No matter the effects of the church on our politics, you'd rather the masses follow the example of Jesus than any political figure.
April 12, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Organized religion is a scourge. Haven't said this much recently but you are 100% correct, they are cults basically
April 12, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Generally, though, I just think about the amount of human suffering throughout history that is either directly or indirectly attributable to religion, and it's pretty staggering. Funny thing is how much suffering has actually been done in the name of the Devil, like virtually zero. The Manson murders sorta, kinda. Some dorks playing D&D (allegedly) and a couple burnt churches in Scandinavia, I think? I mean you wanna talk about the ultimate BS boogeyman. That dude ain't done squat.
April 12, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Kz! said: You just have a cookie cutter/NPC leftist view on literally everything. I mean, I'm not big on M4A and think wokeness is a disease, so not quite.
April 13, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's not taboo; religion is a critical part of the social studies curriculum. You're just supposed to give each religion equal treatment and study it within an academic framework, not promote a particular faith. Maybe where you went to school. But when I attended Philly public schools, it was not part of the curriculum.
April 13, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Procus said: Maybe where you went to school. But when I attended Philly public schools, it was not part of the curriculum. I can see religion being taught in relation to its place in history (example, you can't teach the crusades without referring to religion) Outside that, none of it has a place in public schools IMO.
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