Toolg, you made it to adulthood without knowing your sexual identity before your teenage years.  Why do your children need to think about this??

 

When I was 12 I thought girls were icky. Thank god no "ally" was around to guide me down a horrible path that I didnt understand at all 

If I need parenting advice, I'm definitely gonna ask the moron from West Virginia who tried to claim kids would be just as likely to confide in gas station attendants as they would confide in their teachers.

11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Toolg, you made it to adulthood without knowing your sexual identity before your teenage years.  Why do your children need to think about this??

 

When I was 12 I thought girls were icky. Thank god no "ally" was around to guide me down a horrible path that I didnt understand at all 

It's really none of your business how he raises his kids.  I don't get into any of that gender stuff with my kids, but people are free to raise their kids how they please.  Raising your kids immersed in gun culture is just as weird, but it's not my business if someone wants to do it.

14 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If I need parenting advice, I'm definitely gonna ask the moron from West Virginia who tried to claim kids would be just as likely to confide in gas station attendants as they would confide in their teachers.

I didnt say that you idiot, I was playing devils advocate but you're too dumb to read, so.

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

I didnt say that you idiot, I was playing devils advocate but you're too dumb to read, so.

 "My argument was really stupid in hindsight so now I'm gonna pretend I didn't mean what I said."

8 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

It's really none of your business how he raises his kids.  I don't get into any of that gender stuff with my kids, but people are free to raise their kids how they please.  Raising your kids immersed in gun culture is just as weird, but it's not my business if someone wants to do it.

Youre right it isnt my business.  He can ignore my posts if we wants.

But Im sorry I have to say something when I read that.  I dont expose my kids to guns either but that doesnt have nearly the long term psychological impact that it would have if I told my sons I didnt know what gender they are and they shouldn't know either.  

My 4 year old knows hes a boy.  Lets just stop this as a society, please.

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

 "My argument was really stupid in hindsight so now I'm gonna pretend I didn't mean what I said."

No you idiot, once again you cant read and so you put words in my mouth.  Go back to the thread and quote the posts.  But you won't do that because it will again show you to be a fraudulent liar and you'll be embarrassed in front of your internet friends again.

He said he'd trust his child to go to any "ally" and I asked if that included youth pastors or gas station attendants.  Again, making the point that children arent mature enough to identify adults who are good or bad allies, and the parent should always be involved and not cop out like that.  

Go back and quote the posts or just STFU with your trash memory of the convo that you wish happened.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

He said he'd trust his child to go to any "ally" and I asked if that included youth pastors or gas station attendants.  Again, making the point that children arent mature enough to identify adults who are good or bad allies, and the parent should always be involved and not cop out like that.  

Once again reiterating that you think kids are too stupid to figure out they are better off confiding in a teacher than a gas station attendant. I mean, maybe that's true for kids from WV, but it's pretty hilarious to the rest of us.  

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Once again reiterating that you think kids are too stupid to figure out they are better off confiding in a teacher than a gas station attendant. I mean, maybe that's true for kids from WV, but it's pretty hilarious to the rest of us.  

Too stupid??? Theyre kids you idiot

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

Too stupid??? Theyre kids you idiot

I'm grateful that you serve a useful purpose here, Mike. Every so often you pop in with posts like these and remind us that it's not just shtick, people from West Virginia really are dumber than everyone else.

34 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Youre right it isnt my business.  He can ignore my posts if we wants.

But Im sorry I have to say something when I read that.  I dont expose my kids to guns either but that doesnt have nearly the long term psychological impact that it would have if I told my sons I didnt know what gender they are and they shouldn't know either.  

My 4 year old knows hes a boy.  Lets just stop this as a society, please.

It certainly can.  We live in a country obsessed with gun culture that also happens to have far and away the most mass shootings.  It's damaging and weird and people should stop doing it, but if I told a right winger to stop raising their kids like that they'd ignore me and keep doing it.  Much like when a right winger like yourself tells a liberal something.

19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm grateful that you serve a useful purpose here, Mike. Every so often you pop in with posts like these and remind us that it's not just shtick, people from West Virginia really are dumber than everyone else.

"Derp a 7 year old is smart enough to know which adults to trust"

Another incredibly stupid take brought to you by WGB

Just now, Mike31mt said:

"Derp a 7 year old is smart enough to know which adults to trust"

Another incredibly stupid take brought to you by WGB

My daughter is 6 and absolutely is smart enough to understand the difference, just as I did when I was her age. It's really not that hard for those of us that still have all of our teeth and were raised with indoor plumbing.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

My daughter is 6 and absolutely is smart enough to understand the difference, just as I did when I was her age. It's really not that hard for those of us that still have all of our teeth and were raised with indoor plumbing.

Lol yeah ok. 

Because no adults could ever possibly trick a 6 year old at all or misrepresent themselves. Thats impossible because of her 6 years of interactions with humans and lengthy experience in analyzing adult behavior.

I love how you post the dumbest ish imaginable then have the gall to talk ish about WV.  

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Lol yeah ok. 

Because no adults could ever possibly trick a 6 year old at all or misrepresent themselves. Thats impossible because of her 6 years of interactions with humans and lengthy experience in analyzing adult behavior.

I love how you post the dumbest ish imaginable then have the gall to talk ish about WV.  

I'm really sorry that you actually think a 7 year old is too stupid to understand the difference between confiding in a teacher and confiding in a gas station attendant. I bet that must've been hard growing up in an environment where things were so confusing for you, what with all those teachers trying to trick you and misrepresent themselves and what not. Hopefully one day you can make enough money to move your family to a state where such things don't happen, and the teachers are actually teachers and gas station attendants aren't something your kids even know about because honestly why the F are they even interacting with gas station attendants in the first place?  

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

They wont be if their child continues to think about their sexual identity and gender before they mature to an age where they understand what they're even thinking about.

Your child is curious and is looking to you for guidance.  Dont f'ing cop out with this bull ish progressive nonsense that is driven by people who dont have kids and/or hate kids.

 

My job as a parent isn't to sugar-coat or pretend that life is going to be easy. It is not. It is 2023, and it is ok to identify any way that you see fit. I am not going to pretend there are simply two gender roles for sake of simplifying things. You must fit one or the other, and that's it. This is not accurate. This kind of teaching only creates problems later in life.

It's ok to be you. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. That's my guidance. 

3 minutes ago, toolg said:

It's ok to be you. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. That's my guidance. 

I can't believe you would subject your child to this sort of psychological abuse.

3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I'm really sorry that you actually think a 7 year old is too stupid to understand the difference between confiding in a teacher and confiding in a gas station attendant. I bet that must've been hard growing up in an environment where things were so confusing for you, what with all those teachers trying to trick you and misrepresent themselves and what not. Hopefully one day you can make enough money to move your family to a state where such things don't happen, and the teachers are actually teachers and gas station attendants aren't something your kids even know about because honestly why the F are they even interacting with gas station attendants in the first place?  

I honestly think youre more stupid than a 7 year old.  Youre so unbelievably stupid and piss poor at basic conversational skills Im stunned youve procreated.

3 hours ago, toolg said:

My job as a parent isn't to sugar-coat or pretend that life is going to be easy. It is not. It is 2023, and it is ok to identify any way that you see fit. I am not going to pretend there are simply two gender roles for sake of simplifying things. You must fit one or the other, and that's it. This is not accurate. This kind of teaching only creates problems later in life.

It's ok to be you. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. That's my guidance. 

I didnt say gender roles, did I?  I said gender.

It really is beautiful in its simplicity, you might be surprised, there are two genders and I could identify which one your children are immediately.

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I didnt say gender roles, did I?  I said gender.

It really is beautiful in its simplicity, you might be surprised, there are two genders and I could identify which one your children are immediately.

How's your gaydar?

7 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

How's your gaydar?

No I will not make out with you

Good thing it was just about protecting the children and not at all related to an all out culture war against gays and lesbians. 

 

On 4/19/2023 at 10:37 AM, we_gotta_believe said:

If I need parenting advice, I'm definitely gonna ask the moron from West Virginia who tried to claim kids would be just as likely to confide in gas station attendants as they would confide in their teachers.

This is definitely and accurate depiction of the argument that was made and definitely not just another transparently made up re-telling.  

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Good thing it was just about protecting the children and not at all related to an all out culture war against gays and lesbians. 

 

Oh no, now kids can't even learn about the gender spectrum in high school!? This means if they don't have a subscription to Disney + they might never turn trans!