June 27, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: I defend Trump when I feel it's deserved and dont defend him when it’s not. If there's something specific if you want to discuss, go for it J6 His handling of classified documents, his countless accusations of sexual harassment/assault/rape, including underage girls election tampering freeing 5000 taliban prisoners……………… it would be easier if you would just tell us when you didn’t defend trump
June 27, 20232 yr If Hunter Biden had done any of the things on that list, the lynch mobs would be everywhere, and he'd be in one.
June 28, 20232 yr "I wasn't a defender of the GOP until recently" is a weird flex. It's like saying you weren't a fan of Michael Jackson until the Neverland documentary came out.
June 28, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: J6 His handling of classified documents, his countless accusations of sexual harassment/assault/rape, including underage girls election tampering freeing 5000 taliban prisoners……………… it would be easier if you would just tell us when you didn’t defend trump Ok, January 6th is one. Im on record in here as saying I thought he made a huge mistake allowing that to spiral out of control. I dont think he planned any of it, so spare me, but I do think he allowed it to fester and it was irresponsible. He lost the narrative then and never got it back, ending his chances for any future political endeavors in my mind. The classified documents, my stance is that its bad but Im not naive enough to think hundreds of politicians do the exact same thing and theres ample evidence to conclude that's true. Punish them all for it equally, and Im talking about the crime itself (mishandling documents), not the phony baloney nebulous charges of how quickly they turn them in or work with the DOJ. Thats like banana republic stuff whete there are clearly two sets of rules for citizens and politicians. Election tampering....dumb but it changed nothing at all. Many politicians have tried this before, denying or tampering or trying to overturn elections...its happened more times than anyone can count in here, dont pretend Trump was the first. Thats why I thought the whole notion of Trump somehow transitioning us into an overnight dictatorship were laughably paranoid. Taliban prisoners/Afghanistan.... probably a whole other conversation but Ill say I agree with ending the forever wars in the middle east.
June 28, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, VanHammersly said: Independent 3rd Party voters don't breathlessly defend Trump all day, Mike. So, no they're not weird poosays. But embarrassed Republicans who lie about being independent while pretending they can't vote in the Republican primary absolutely are. Didnt I already post my voter ID card in here? Just stop
June 28, 20232 yr 13 hours ago, DEagle7 said: "I wasn't a defender of the GOP until recently" is a weird flex. It's like saying you weren't a fan of Michael Jackson until the Neverland documentary came out. Are you referring to me, because I never said that and you clearly misread what I posted
June 28, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: The classified documents, my stance is that its bad but Im not naive enough to think hundreds of politicians do the exact same thing and theres ample evidence to conclude that's true. Punish them all for it equally, and Im talking about the crime itself (mishandling documents), not the phony baloney nebulous charges of how quickly they turn them in or work with the DOJ. Thats like banana republic stuff whete there are clearly two sets of rules for citizens and politicians. What other politicians refused to return the docs and then stalled & lied on multiple occasions about even having said documents and then claimed they were planted, then looked to use the info against his political rival and is on a recording sharing these same documents with people that werent classified to come anywhere near them ? sure go after all of them for just having classified docs, i could care less, but trump 100% brought this on himself.
June 28, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Election tampering....dumb but it changed nothing at all. Many politicians have tried this before, denying or tampering or trying to overturn elections....its happened more times than anyone can count in here, dont pretend Trump was the first. Yeah? Which politicians have coordinated the submission of false slates of electors?
June 28, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: What other politicians refused to return the docs and them stalled & lied on multiple occasions about even having said documents and then claimed they were planted, then looked to use the info against his political rival and is on a recording sharing these same documents with people that werent classified to come anywhere near them ? sure go after all of them for just having classified docs, i could care less, but trump 100% brought this on himself. Biden, for one. Biden actually took the insane step of allowing the DOJ to indict Trump for crimes Biden knows he's committing every single day. We still dont know what he had in his house, the level of sensitivity of those documents, and how many are left. They found more than what Biden handed over originally....sound familiar?
June 28, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Biden, for one. Biden actually took the insane step of allowing the DOJ to indict Trump for crimes Biden knows he's committing every single day. We still dont know what he had in his house, the level of sensitivity of those documents, and how many are left. They found more than what Biden handed over originally....sound familiar? Biden obstructed justice by refusing to cooperate and hand over any documents found in his possession? Any evidence for this, like say for example, an audio recording of Biden flat out admitting to it?
June 28, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yeah? Which politicians have coordinated the submission of false slates of electors? It happened a few times in the late 19th century, and I think again in 1960 at least.... somehow we existed as a nation all these years. And there have been countless challenges to elections based on bull ish like this. Its more of a norm to challenge election results than an exception. Regardless, that whole scheme had absolutely no chance of working anyway, and there was virtually no actual threat to our democracy dying in darkness like you believe.
June 28, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Biden obstructed justice by refusing to cooperate and hand over any documents found in his possession? Any evidence for this, like say for example, an audio recording of Biden flat out admitting to it? Well we're just waiting for the special prenegotiated meeting between Bidens lawyers and the DOJ. That is TBD, whenever Biden feels like investigating himself. Im sure theyll treat him just like Trump though, cant wait for the FBI raid, great ratings!
June 28, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Well we're just waiting for the special prenegotiated meeting between Bidens lawyers and the DOJ. That is TBD, whenever Biden feels like investigating himself. Im sure theyll treat him just like Trump though, cant wait for the FBI raid, great ratings! you just refuse to admit these are two different circumstances. maybe you're right though. because just like with pence and the others. they all obstructed justice when ordered to return the docs and then lied that the fbi planted the docs on them and then when that didnt work, they all said FU we can do what we want under the presidential records act. sound familiar ?
June 28, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: It happened a few times in the late 19th century, and I think again in 1960 at least.... somehow we existed as a nation all these years. And there have been countless challenges to elections based on bull ish like this. Its more of a norm to challenge election results than an exception. Regardless, that whole scheme had absolutely no chance of working anyway, and there was virtually no actual threat to our democracy dying in darkness like you believe. So we've gone from "its happened more times than anyone can count" to maybe a few times in the last couple centuries. Cool, now can you provide links to what happened in those cases you're referencing or should we just go on gut feelings?
June 28, 20232 yr 18 hours ago, DrPhilly said: What's weird is how you defend Trump at every ridiculous turn. Set up by Dr. Philly 18 hours ago, Mike31mt said: I defend Trump when I feel it's deserved and dont defend him when its not. If there's something specific if you want to discuss, go for it You dispute it and say you only defend trump when it's trivial but not when it's a serious issue 16 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: J6 His handling of classified documents, his countless accusations of sexual harassment/assault/rape, including underage girls election tampering freeing 5000 taliban prisoners……………… it would be easier if you would just tell us when you didn’t defend trump TNT lists 5 serious crimes or massive failures from Trump 11 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ok, January 6th is one. Im on record in here as saying I thought he made a huge mistake allowing that to spiral out of control. I dont think he planned any of it, so spare me, but I do think he allowed it to fester and it was irresponsible. He lost the narrative then and never got it back, ending his chances for any future political endeavors in my mind. The classified documents, my stance is that its bad but Im not naive enough to think hundreds of politicians do the exact same thing and theres ample evidence to conclude that's true. Punish them all for it equally, and Im talking about the crime itself (mishandling documents), not the phony baloney nebulous charges of how quickly they turn them in or work with the DOJ. Thats like banana republic stuff whete there are clearly two sets of rules for citizens and politicians. Election tampering....dumb but it changed nothing at all. Many politicians have tried this before, denying or tampering or trying to overturn elections...its happened more times than anyone can count in here, dont pretend Trump was the first. Thats why I thought the whole notion of Trump somehow transitioning us into an overnight dictatorship were laughably paranoid. Taliban prisoners/Afghanistan.... probably a whole other conversation but Ill say I agree with ending the forever wars in the middle east. You prove Dr. Philly's original point by defending every single one. Good job, Mike.
June 28, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Well we're just waiting for the special prenegotiated meeting between Bidens lawyers and the DOJ. That is TBD, whenever Biden feels like investigating himself. Im sure theyll treat him just like Trump though, cant wait for the FBI raid, great ratings! "The evidence is there, it's just a conspiracy against Trump that it hasn't been released!"
June 28, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Set up by Dr. Philly You dispute it and say you only defend trump when it's trivial but not when it's a serious issue TNT lists 5 serious crimes or massive failures from Trump You prove Dr. Philly's original point by defending every single one. Good job, Mike. This is fun. We're having fun, right?
June 28, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: you just refuse to admit these are two different circumstances. maybe you're right though. because just like with pence and the others. they all obstructed justice when ordered to return the docs and then lied that the fbi planted the docs on them and then when that didnt work, they all said FU we can do what we want under the presidential records act. sound familiar ? Yeah totally different circumstances, one candidate gets a pre-planned FBI raid on national tv and the other gers excuses from the media for doing the Exact Same Thing.
June 28, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So we've gone from "its happened more times than anyone can count" to maybe a few times in the last couple centuries. Cool, now can you provide links to what happened in those cases you're referencing or should we just go on gut feelings? No you asked specifically about electors. But other attempts have been tried, which is what I was responding to--"election tampering" which has in fact happened almost every single election. Yet another failure by you to follow the course of a conversation and keep things straight.
June 28, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah totally different circumstances, one candidate gets a pre-planned FBI raid on national tv and the other gers excuses from the media for doing the Exact Same Thing.
June 28, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Set up by Dr. Philly You dispute it and say you only defend trump when it's trivial but not when it's a serious issue TNT lists 5 serious crimes or massive failures from Trump You prove Dr. Philly's original point by defending every single one. Good job, Mike. I literally didnt defend it in the very post you quoted. What are you talking about?. The only thing Id outright defend was Afghanistan, but that's a whole other topic. I literally offered criticisms of Trump for everything else. Just because Im not calling him a fascist dictator, I guess its not good enough...you guys are insane
June 28, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: No you asked specifically about electors. But other attempts have been tried, which is what I was responding to--"election tampering" which has in fact happened almost every single election. Yet another failure by you to follow the course of a conversation and keep things straight. Ok yeah, so you got any links to those cases where candidates submitted false slates of electors?
June 28, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ok yeah, so you got any links to those cases where candidates submitted false slates of electors? This is the one time Im going help you out today. Youre on your own from here on out... https://www.justsecurity.org/82233/a-historical-perspective-on-alternate-electors-lessons-from-hayes-tiden/ https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/07/1960-electoral-college-certificates-false-trump-electors-00006186 If you actually gave a ish and this wasnt just about scoring internet points, Im sure you could find more.
June 28, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah totally different circumstances, one candidate gets a pre-planned FBI raid on national tv and the other gers excuses from the media for doing the Exact Same Thing. show us where these others pulled the same BS as trump. i have been waiting all morning buddy. hurry up my breakfast is getting cold.
June 28, 20232 yr Just now, Alpha_TATEr said: show us where these others pulled the same BS as trump. i have been waiting all morning buddy. hurry up my breakfast is getting cold. You guys are in such a hurry to show your arses on here. Im only responding to like 8 of you at once, jesus....
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