June 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Uh, ok. I'm ok with fighting for a woman's right to bodily autonomy anywhere. Is this supposed to be some kind of dig?
June 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, The Blackfish said: That’s only half of it, try miscarriage’s that are considered abortions just because they put the Mom’s life at risk. A Dr can force a woman to pass the fetus naturally, otherwise it would be an abortion. I just can’t with you dorks who advance these narratives about women’s healthcare and what’s going to happen… aka you’re literally shaking for women (when you decide to recognize us as such based on our biology because it advances your politics) rn.
June 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Paul852 said: You're likely turning the red states bluer over the next few decades. Not even kidding. Maybe. It will depend on if the Latino shift in the last election was a one off event or is the start of a more secular shift. Both parties are experts in only one thing: pissing people off. I’m sure the democrats will come up with something retarded to help negate some of the gains they’ve had.
June 25, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Procus said: It doesn't mention women to the best of my knowledge That's because they were considered property, just like the slaves. But I guess that's too much CRT for you.
June 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The Walt Disney Co (DIS.N) on Friday said it will cover travel expenses for employees seeking family planning or reproductive care following the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling overturning the Roe v. Wade ruling that protected a woman's right to abortion Desantis in Florida will fight that or the Republican Legislature will pass a law banning companies from paying expenses for an abortion. It won't last long. I'm sure this activist court will agree.
June 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah, forget about the economy, gas prices, and food prices. Loose women need abortions.
June 25, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: That's because they were considered property, just like the slaves. But I guess that's too much CRT for you. Women make up more than half the population. They are more than capable of making their own points. They don't need emasculated men to do so. When's the last time you saw a woman sticking up for men's rights?
June 25, 20223 yr People cheering on businesses for paying abortion travel costs is hilarious. As if its some principled stance and not an obvious effort to keep their employees at work and off of maternity/paternity leave But even funnier are the truly deranged who somehow are trying to appeal to our emotions because its now harder to kill unborn babies. It would almost work until you remember that theyre arguing for killing unborn babies.
June 25, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Uh, ok. I'm ok with fighting for a woman's right to bodily autonomy anywhere. Is this supposed to be some kind of dig? Did they have autonomy when they chose to have the seks??
June 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, binkybink77 said: I just can’t with you dorks who advance these narratives about women’s healthcare and what’s going to happen… aka you’re literally shaking for women (when you decide to recognize us as such based on our biology because it advances your politics) rn. Seems like a pretty legitimate concern due to some of these states with poorly drawn up trigger laws. There was a Missouri trigger law last month that initially didn't even include exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, which is insane. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/05/10/1097734167/in-texas-abortion-laws-inhibit-care-for-miscarriages https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/roe-v-wade-anti-abortion-legislation-limit-miscarriage-care-rcna27349 https://wpln.org/post/tennessee-ob-gyns-say-states-looming-abortion-ban-threatens-treatment-for-miscarriages/ https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/health-care/article261643472.html
June 25, 20223 yr Kind of a creepy to have a pill induced abortion happen at home, but how many abortion clinics are a bed of roses for that matter. Nevertheless, if abortion pills become widely available, then you would think the practical effect of Dobbs would be significantly mitigated. For all we know, the Dobbs opinion may wind up being a footnote in history like the law behind the do not call list is - a law that doesn't have much teeth. https://www.axios.com/2022/06/24/abortion-pills-order-online-roe-wade-decision Abortion pill online orders expected to grow post Roe
June 25, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Uh, ok. I'm ok with fighting for a woman's right to bodily autonomy anywhere. Kung flu took care of bodily autonomy didn't it?
June 25, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Procus said: When's the last time you saw a woman sticking up for men's rights?
June 25, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, binkybink77 said: I just can’t with you dorks who advance these narratives about women’s healthcare and what’s going to happen… aka you’re literally shaking for women (when you decide to recognize us as such based on our biology because it advances your politics) rn. Yea. How dare they have an opinion if they can’t get pregnant. What a bunch of aholes.
June 25, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: Did they have autonomy when they chose to have the seks?? Most did, with the 30,000 women who get pregnant from being raped every year being the exceptions.
June 25, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: Did they have autonomy when they chose to have the seks?? I never understood this silly argument. Should we not treat someone with a broken leg because they chose to go skiing?
June 25, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Most did, with the 30,000 women who get pregnant from being raped every year being the exceptions. Outliers. Not the basis of a sound position. this will have to be a big compromise to get a federal law. So unlikely to happen. Instead we will get a patchwork mess on a state by state basis
June 25, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I never understood this silly argument. Should we not treat someone with a broken leg because they chose to go skiing? To many that pregnancy is not an injury but another individual with rights…do you get to push another skier off the cliff to prevent going over yourself? do you accept that risk of injury when you ski? Of course. You also accept the risk of pregnancy and disease with sex. Accepting risk brings accountability and responsibilty with it.
June 25, 20223 yr Wouldn't a federal law protecting abortion simply be deemed unconstitutional by this SC? Though I'd be curious to see this court make a ruling if Roe was argued for under some of the sounder arguments that have been floated as opposed to the flawed original ruling.
June 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: To many that pregnancy is not an injury but another individual with rights…do you get to push another skier off the cliff to prevent going over yourself? do you accept that risk of injury when you ski? Of course. You also accept the risk of pregnancy and disease with sex. Accepting risk brings accountability and responsibilty with it. Now we get to viability, which isn't the basis on which Roe was overturned AFAIK. And I don't believe the courts are prepared to truly answer the question of viability. Abortion is just one way to mitigate the risks. In some places we're now denying that based on a subjective call on what rights a fetus has based on nothing more than personal feelings. In those cases the state should defer to the individual, because frankly the state has no business injecting itself there.
June 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Wouldn't a federal law protecting abortion simply be deemed unconstitutional by this SC? Though I'd be curious to see this court make a ruling if Roe was argued for under some of the sounder arguments that have been floated as opposed to the flawed original ruling. I dont think so. What legislation did this change? I think they value the proper process and rule of law. Thats why they ruled this way. Would seem to also be consistent with their gun ruling no?
June 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Now we get to viability, which isn't the basis on which Roe was overturned AFAIK. And I don't believe the courts are prepared to truly answer the question of viability. Abortion is just one way to mitigate the risks. In some places we're now denying that based on a subjective call on what rights a fetus has based on nothing more than personal feelings. In those cases the state should defer to the individual, because frankly the state has no business injecting itself there. Saying the offspring has none is just the same feelings. How convenient for those not wanting responsibility…the state has every place is settling disputes between its people. Pretty much the purpose of courts is such contracts this could be easy. Make is legal up to 12 weeks. Carve outs for rape and incest and risk to life of mother. But no funding for it. Let those who believe in it fund it.
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