August 7, 20223 yr On 8/3/2022 at 5:28 AM, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm pretty surprised at the number. Over 60% rejected it. Keep in mind this was in a mid term primary in which there is no major democrat candidate running. It was engineered to maximize passage. And it lost by a landslide. Kansas' constitution protects the right to abortion, so this maintains that protection preventing the legislature from passing restrictions. From what I read it was worded oddly, using a double negative I believe. The ad campaign by democrats was also tactically smart. They didn’t even use the word abortion in TV/radio ads, instead framing it as government overreach into private medical decisions and avoiding the actual issue of abortion specifically.
August 8, 20223 yr The Kansas win is a total mirage. Basically just a sneak attack by Democrats. Unless federal protections are put in place kansas will be just like Indiana in 3 years.
August 10, 20223 yr Pregnancy care worsens as maternity wards close LINK Quote For every 100,000 women who give birth in Germany, fewer than 4 die. In Canada, the figure is 8; in the UK, a bit fewer than 9. In the US, the number is 24. In 2020, 861 women died because of pregnancy or childbirth. That may not sound like a lot, but according to the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, for every death, an estimated 70 other women barely survive. This means that in 2020, an additional 60,270 women in the US suffered life-threatening medical complications, many of which could’ve been prevented if they’d had better access to care. Ranked against other countries by the World Bank, the quality of maternal health care in America is no better than in Latvia, Moldova, and Oman. Texas leads the nation in maternity ward closures, but all anyone talks about is abortion. It's as if our focus is on the wrong side of the pregnancy.
August 10, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, toolg said: Pregnancy care worsens as maternity wards close LINK Texas leads the nation in maternity ward closures, but all anyone talks about is abortion. It's as if our focus is on the wrong side of the pregnancy. What happened in 2020 that prevented people from getting the medical care they needed? 24 to 861 is quite a jump. Had to be something....
August 10, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, paco said: What happened in 2020 that prevented people from getting the medical care they needed? 24 to 861 is quite a jump. Had to be something.... It didn't jump from 24 to 861. The stats are from two separate sentences, the former being a per capita count, the latter the aggregate count for 2020.
August 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: It didn't jump from 24 to 861. The stats are from two separate sentences, the former being a per capita count, the latter the aggregate count for 2020. Got you. I read it as a total. For the record, I was going for the "I was told it was just a cold" crowd when I thought it was a jump.
August 10, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, paco said: What happened in 2020 that prevented people from getting the medical care they needed? 24 to 861 is quite a jump. Had to be something.... 24 per 100,000. Per the article, in 2020 it equates to 861 women in the US.
August 10, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, paco said: Got you. I read it as a total. For the record, I was going for the "I was told it was just a cold" crowd when I thought it was a jump. The large disparity of infant mortality rates between the US and other first world nations predates covid. The article seems to also imply the disparity in maternal mortality rates will now be even worse in certain states.
August 18, 20223 yr Not sure where to put this but appears FL gov suspended an elected attorney for what he said he would do, not what he actually did. Like to see where this law suit goes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/florida-governor-ron-desantis-sued-by-state-attorney-suspended-for-wokeness/ar-AA10NxtS?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=815ade5af94c4e6c846cc15eb242b1d8
August 18, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, DiPros said: Not sure where to put this but appears FL gov suspended an elected attorney for what he said he would do, not what he actually did. Like to see where this law suit goes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/florida-governor-ron-desantis-sued-by-state-attorney-suspended-for-wokeness/ar-AA10NxtS?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=815ade5af94c4e6c846cc15eb242b1d8 Florida thread! Here's the headline: Florida man fired after being accused of "wokeness"
August 18, 20223 yr Fing heartless Louisiana hospital denies abortion for fetus without a skull https://www.nola.com/news/healthcare_hospitals/article_d08b59fe-1e39-11ed-a669-a3570eeed885.html?utm_source=reddit.com
August 23, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, mayanh8 said: When politicians behave as if they know more than the doctors treating their own patients. When the law overrules medical procedure. Doctors are unable to perform what they know is standard of care… This is what happens. Doctors could have fixed this young woman experiencing an emergency, but the lawyers said no because of some holier than thou politicians. Sad.
September 7, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, Ipiggles said: I'll just set this here. Yeah exactly - i love it when some rando tells me what I actually believe.
September 7, 20223 yr Author 4 minutes ago, kiwieagle said: Yeah exactly - i love it when some rando tells me what I actually believe. Yeah, how does he know I don't wish I was aborted?
September 8, 20223 yr Michigan court rules 1931 abortion ban is unconstitutional https://www.yahoo.com/gma/michigan-court-rules-1931-abortion-212647894.html A Michigan Court of Claims judge ruled Wednesday that the state's 1931 abortion ban violates the state constitution, according to a copy of the ruling obtained by ABC News. The ruling permanently bars the attorney general and county prosecutors from enforcing the ban in the state, effectively legalizing abortions in Michigan. The ruling found the state's abortion ban unconstitutional as it violates the due process and equal protection clauses of the Michigan constitution and would deprive pregnant women of their right to bodily integrity, autonomy and the equal protection of the law, Gleicher wrote in the order. Gleicher ruled that enforcement of the law will "endanger the health and lives of women seeking to exercise their constitutional right to abortion" and threatens pregnant women with irreparable injury because without access to abortion care they will be denied "appropriate, safe and constitutionally protected medical care," court documents show. The court also found that the law would cause Planned Parenthood and Wallett "irreparable injury" by exposing them to "felony prosecution and imprisonment for performing a medically necessary procedure that their patients are constitutionally entitled to have," according to the ruling.
September 12, 20223 yr Woman carrying fetus without a skull to seek abortion in another state following Louisiana ban https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-woman-carrying-fetus-skull-seek-abortion-another-state-rcna45005 Quote Nancy Davis said she found out 10 weeks into her pregnancy that her unborn child had a condition called Acrania, where the fetus' skull does not form inside the womb. The Fetal Medicine Foundation said a baby born with this "lethal condition" does not survive past the first week. So what if it kills the mother? RIGHT TO LIFE!! This is what happens when you let POLITICIANS become doctors.
September 12, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Woman carrying fetus without a skull to seek abortion in another state following Louisiana ban https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-woman-carrying-fetus-skull-seek-abortion-another-state-rcna45005 So what if it kills the mother? RIGHT TO LIFE!! This is what happens when you let POLITICIANS become doctors. I'm not a fan of this law, however, it clearly states right there in the text that there are exemptions for cases where there is a risk to the mother. "F. It shall not be a violation of Subsection C of this Section for a licensed physician to perform a medical procedure necessary in reasonable medical judgment to prevent the death or substantial risk of death due to a physical condition, or to prevent the serious, permanent impairment of a life-sustaining organ of a pregnant woman. However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts under the circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life of her unborn child in a manner consistent with reasonable medical practice." So if continuing with the pregnancy is a risk to her health, and yet her doctors told her that by law they can't perform an abortion to prevent injury or death to her, then her doctors are clearly in the wrong and either 1) haven't read the law, or 2) are playing politics so that headlines like this can be written.
September 12, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: I'm not a fan of this law, however, it clearly states right there in the text that there are exemptions for cases where there is a risk to the mother. "F. It shall not be a violation of Subsection C of this Section for a licensed physician to perform a medical procedure necessary in reasonable medical judgment to prevent the death or substantial risk of death due to a physical condition, or to prevent the serious, permanent impairment of a life-sustaining organ of a pregnant woman. However, the physician shall make reasonable medical efforts under the circumstances to preserve both the life of the mother and the life of her unborn child in a manner consistent with reasonable medical practice." So if continuing with the pregnancy is a risk to her health, and yet her doctors told her that by law they can't perform an abortion to prevent injury or death to her, then her doctors are clearly in the wrong and either 1) haven't read the law, or 2) are playing politics so that headlines like this can be written. SHE HAS BEEN REFUSED AN ABORTION IN LA. Quote A Louisiana mother said she was denied an abortion even though doctors told her that her baby had a rare birth defect and would not survive. She is looking to leave the state.
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