June 1, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: You CONVENIENTLY blame it all on the mother and not the father. Strange. So the moron from the dumbest state in the country is not only a bigoted homophobe but also a misogynist? I mean, who could've possibly seen that coming? It's super rare for trumpbots to behave that.
June 1, 20232 yr 42 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Youre THE dumbest person on the entire EMB, bar none. I consider this an honor coming from the likes of you, ish poster. Awww, did I ruffle your panties and get them all twisted up. Poor baby. And Your facts are a total joke just like you.
June 1, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Yes, a 30 day old or 3 month old can absolutely live outside of another human's body. Many babies within the womb can live outside the womans body too
June 1, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Paul852 said: You CONVENIENTLY blame it all on the mother and not the father. Strange. Yes because it's the mothers decision, not the mans. Are you guys even being serious or are you just this surprised someone is actually challenging your logic on this? If you just need to huddle up for a few days, gather some info and plan out your arguments, maybe we can try again in a few days.
June 1, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: So the moron from the dumbest state in the country is not only a bigoted homophobe but also a misogynist? I mean, who could've possibly seen that coming? It's super rare for trumpbots to behave that. Yeah its misogyny that in realiry a woman decides whether to have an abortion or not. You guys are just pranking me, arent you
June 1, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Awww, did I ruffle your panties and get them all twisted up. Poor baby. And Your facts are a total joke just like you. Yeah my facts are just that, baby killer
June 1, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah its misogyny that in realiry a woman decides whether to have an abortion or not. You guys are just pranking me, arent you We know... You're not blaming the father, even if he's just encouraging the abortion.
June 1, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah my facts are just that, baby killer Care to share where your "facts" that 95% are just people using as birth control or is that just your feeling? Speaking of babies living outside the body, recent stats: 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation. 6.2% of abortions were performed at 4–20 weeks’ gestation. Since you live in WV the dumbest state in country, I'll do math for you, 98.9% were before 20 weeks. "In medicine, it's the point at which a fetus can survive outside the womb. It is generally considered to be around 23 or 24 week"
June 1, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Many babies within the womb can live outside the womans body too This conversation keeps getting dumber and dumber. That's saying something.
June 1, 20232 yr 19 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yes because it's the mothers decision, not the mans. NOW you're getting it. Took long enough but glad we got there.
June 1, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: We know... You're not blaming the father, even if he's just encouraging the abortion. Or claims he's not the father, or is abusive, or refuses to get a job, or cheated, etc.
June 1, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: This conversation keeps getting dumber and dumber. That's saying something. Look who you're talking too. He almost has kz beat for the championship.
June 21, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, toolg said: Overturn of Roe v. Wade is unpopular amongst Americans I’m surprised it’s that close.
June 21, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: I’m surprised it’s that close. was going to say the same thing. most polls have support for abortion way higher.
June 21, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: was going to say the same thing. most polls have support for abortion way higher. It's possible to be pro-choice and still be OK with Roe v. Wade being overturned if you think it should be a state level decision.
June 21, 20232 yr Just now, vikas83 said: It's possible to be pro-choice and still be OK with Roe v. Wade being overturned if you think it should be a state level decision. absolutely true, I just think the percentage of people who allow for that kind of nuance is small. most people are "for state rights" out of political convenience.
June 21, 20232 yr Those polls are based on media fearmongering, nothing more. This tidal wave of at-home abortions or coat hook back alley procedure centers is and was always complete BS. How do I know that? Because as Ive said repeatedly in here, the VAST majority of abortions are for convenience of finances or personal freedom and not healthcare related in any way. Its amazing how things can change when there are repercussions for your actions, and disgusting organizations like Planned Parenthood don't have the ability to advertise their pollyanna vision of abortion to impressionable young women. The feminist movement actually convinced a ton of women that going through an abortion is some sort of empowering endeavor, and now many of you men have bought into it. Somehow there are now men who will passionately defend a doctor smashing up a fetus inside a womb and sucking it out with a vacuum like its NBD, just like a primary care appt.
June 21, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Those polls are based on media fearmongering, women not wanting to cede control of their bodies to the government, nothing more.
June 21, 20232 yr 21 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: absolutely true, I just think the percentage of people who allow for that kind of nuance is small. most people are "for state rights" out of political convenience. I personally believe abortion is murder, but I don't think my morality should dictate the law. I was fine with the concept of Roe v. Wade by trying to find a point of viability, and I guess I would be OK with a federal law that banned non-medically necessary abortions after a certain point. That point should be debated by doctors and scientists and be guided by a simple question -- based on today's medical technology, what is the point at which the fetus becomes viable and can survive independent of the mother? After that, no elective abortions. I see the argument for letting states decide -- relying on the 10th Amendment. I agree with the Equal Protection argument on gay marriage -- since the IRS provides tax benefits to married couples, it's a violation of the 14th Amendment to deny same sex marriage in some states but not others. It's a little less obvious on abortion to me. One would think the market would actually dictate this, but there is a limit to personal mobility. Basically, I'm not super worked up either way. My general view of Roe was if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
June 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VanHammersly said: They already ceded control of their bodies by having unprotected sex, the government (we the people) just wont allow them to conveniently terminate the human life that they created of their own volition. And Ill be damned if the abortion profiteers will control the narrative.
June 21, 20232 yr On 6/1/2023 at 12:52 PM, Mike31mt said: Many babies within the womb can live outside the womans body too Not before 21 weeks.
June 21, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: They already ceded control of their bodies by having unprotected sex, the government (we the people) just wont allow them to conveniently terminate the human life that they created of their own volition. And I’ll be damned if the abortion profiteers will control the narrative. Once a woman has sex, she immediately cedes control of it to the state. Ok, Comrade
June 21, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Once a woman has sex, she immediately cedes control of it to the state. Ok, Comrade Where did I say "to the state?" 34 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Not before 21 weeks. But its a living human being, thats the point. Just like you and me. A unique person with a beating heart. Babies need constant care and intervention to live even months and months after theyre born, or theyll die of exposure/hunger/dehydration.
June 21, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: They already ceded control of their bodies by having unprotected sex, Tell me you're a religious freak without telling me you're a religious freak.
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