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1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

I don’t get why incest is involved. If the person willingly had sex with their brother cousin and got pregnant then it’s not rape and they knew the consequences of their actions. If they didn’t want teh sex with their brother cousin then it’s rape. 

Better consult with an expert on this.

 

Your thoughts, @Arthur Jackson ?

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7 hours ago, binkybink77 said:

You can mark me down as someone who believes that rape babies are as valuable as non rape babies. 


Ok, but do you support the state requiring a rape victim to bring their rapist's baby to term, or should they still have the option to terminate this particular kind of pregnancy?

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13 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

I don’t get why incest is involved. If the person willingly had sex with their brother cousin and got pregnant then it’s not rape and they knew the consequences of their actions. If they didn’t want teh sex with their brother cousin then it’s rape. 

 

My reasoning would be that it is generally in society's best interest to have less inbreds running around, but that's just me.

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My reasoning would be that it is generally in society's best interest to have less inbreds running around, but that's just me.

Yea but we aren’t gonna force someone who banged their brother cousin to have an abortion. If they do it, she gets pregnant, then it’s up to her but it shouldn’t get classified with rape. 

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5 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Yea but we aren’t gonna force someone who banged their brother cousin to have an abortion. If they do it, she gets pregnant, then it’s up to her but it shouldn’t get classified with rape. 

 

No, they wouldn't be forced, but they'd at least have the option if they realized that they'd rather not raise one of these.

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I don't think they're equating rape to incest, just making them special categories.

Im very clear that I am not pro choice.  F euphemisms, I am pro abortion.  Abortions, at this stage of human society, are as necessary as fossil fuels and eating meat.  Babies born into unwanting families are absurdly prone to being criminals and ruining productive careers of young adults.  Voluntary population control is a good thing and liberal abortion laws is extremely important to closing the gender gap.  Red states want to control thei women and own their children.  This is backwards, archaic theocratic BS.

 

11 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

if they realized that they'd rather not raise one of these.

Don’t bang your brother cousin and you don’t have to worry about them. If it’s not wanted then it’s rape anyway. 

8 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said:

Im very clear that I am not pro choice.  F euphemisms, I am pro abortion.  Abortions, at this stage of human society, are as necessary as fossil fuels and eating meat.  Babies born into unwanting families are absurdly prone to being criminals and ruining productive careers of young adults.  Voluntary population control is a good thing and liberal abortion laws is extremely important to closing the gender gap.  Red states want to control thei women and own their children.  This is backwards, archaic theocratic BS.

 

I can't tell if this is satire or if you are truly a Hitler youth...

4 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

Don’t bang your brother cousin and you don’t have to worry about them. If it’s not wanted then it’s rape anyway. 

Back in the day there was a poster name GooglyMoogly who banged his cousin then started a thread about it.

:roll: :roll: 

21 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:


Ok, but do you support the state requiring a rape victim to bring their rapist's baby to term, or should they still have the option to terminate this particular kind of pregnancy?

You don't have to stand on the hill of inbreds & rape babies.  Don't give them that much terrain to work with, that's how we got here.  Women have a right to choose when they are going to be mothers, period.  A productive woman's career cut short is tragic, children with nobody to raise them is tragic.  Why do we need more children from teenagers and prostitutes?  How does that benefit society?

2 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said:

I can't tell if this is satire or if you are truly a Hitler youth...

I'm serious as a dead fetus brother.

8 hours ago, binkybink77 said:

Hmmm it’s almost like if you think abortion is murder of an innocent life, that doesn’t change based on the circumstances of how that life came to be 🤔  How weird that some of us don’t think we should slaughter people based on something they weren’t involved in. It’s almost like genocide is wrong or something. 

 

Its a cost benefit analysis, albeit it a morbid one. Have to consider the weight of evidence.

have to weigh the mental health of the woman and the traumatic nature of the event. Ptsd will harm the offspring in utero too…

but reality is that rape cases are incredibly rare and can be carved out easily.

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7 minutes ago, sameaglesfan said:

I can't tell if this is satire or if you are truly a Hitler youth...

 

Well, the NSDAP banned abortion, so...

7 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Back in the day there was a poster name GooglyMoogly who banged his cousin then started a thread about it.

:roll: :roll: 

Wasnt that like a second cousin or something

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

Well, the NSDAP banned abortion, so...

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45 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

I don’t get why incest is involved. If the person willingly had sex with their brother cousin and got pregnant then it’s not rape and they knew the consequences of their actions. If they didn’t want teh sex with their brother cousin then it’s rape. 

Why limit that perspective to rape?

Every time anyone has sex they accept the risk of pregnancy and disease. 

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Here's an interesting thought I had this morning. Roe legalized abortion, but it also regulated it, allowing for abortion on demand in only the first trimester of pregnancy. Casey then altered the standard to viability. This draft overturns both Roe and Casey, throwing the issue back to the states at least temporarily. From what I can tell, this would leave the regulation of abortion wide-open to whatever each state sees fit, meaning that the Pro-Lifers worst nightmare could actually become reality: abortion on demand at all times. What's to stop California or Massachusetts, now free from the restrictions imposed by SCOTUS, to say "Ok, any woman can get an abortion for any reason up to the point of labor commencing."

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Wasnt that like a second cousin or something

It may have been.  I just remember he posted it  in WU as a "help I banged my cousin” thread and it got thousands of replies.

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Here's an interesting thought I had this morning. Roe legalized abortion, but it also regulated it, allowing for abortion on demand in only the first trimester of pregnancy. Casey then altered the standard to viability. This draft overturns both Roe and Casey, throwing the issue back to the states at least temporarily. From what I can tell, this would leave the regulation of abortion wide-open to whatever each state sees fit, meaning that the Pro-Lifers worst nightmare could actually become reality: abortion on demand. What's to stop California or Massachusetts, now free from the restrictions imposed by SCOTUS, to say "Ok, any woman can get an abortion for any reason up to the point of labor commencing."

Can absolutely happen. But it forces legislators to actually do their jobs…

 

1 minute ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Here's an interesting thought I had this morning. Roe legalized abortion, but it also regulated it, allowing for abortion on demand in only the first trimester of pregnancy. Casey then altered the standard to viability. This draft overturns both Roe and Casey, throwing the issue back to the states at least temporarily. From what I can tell, this would leave the regulation of abortion wide-open to whatever each state sees fit, meaning that the Pro-Lifers worst nightmare could actually become reality: abortion on demand. What's to stop California or Massachusetts, now free from the restrictions imposed by SCOTUS, to say "Ok, any woman can get an abortion for any reason up to the point of labor commencing."

Absolutely.  and I'm for it.  Wack that ball right back into Gideon's court.

55 minutes ago, paco said:

Better consult with an expert on this.

 

Your thoughts, @Arthur Jackson ?

I generally refrain from discussing this particular topic on May 4. 

 

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14 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

Here's an interesting thought I had this morning. Roe legalized abortion, but it also regulated it, allowing for abortion on demand in only the first trimester of pregnancy. Casey then altered the standard to viability. This draft overturns both Roe and Casey, throwing the issue back to the states at least temporarily. From what I can tell, this would leave the regulation of abortion wide-open to whatever each state sees fit, meaning that the Pro-Lifers worst nightmare could actually become reality: abortion on demand at all times. What's to stop California or Massachusetts, now free from the restrictions imposed by SCOTUS, to say "Ok, any woman can get an abortion for any reason up to the point of labor commencing."

Nothing, as people have been saying since this leak. But congratulations on catching up.

Apparently a number of states still have criminal statutes on the books regarding abortion, including Michigan. So if Roe is overturned those laws immediately become enforceable.

Another gift to Democrats, if you're interested at all in the political ramifications.

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2 minutes ago, The_Omega said:

Nothing, as people have been saying since this leak. But congratulations on catching up.

 

It's interesting that I haven't seen a single person mention it.

Heated ishlib moment.

 

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