23 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Take the L, "Christian"

Have you repented and asked for forgiveness for your vasectomy? It's not too late to reverse it!

23 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

It is quite literally a human life by scientific definition and you are embarrassingly wrong 

Uh huh, so when are you going to go protest in front of your nearest IVF clinic? Don't you care that they're getting away with murder, Michael?

21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Have you repented and asked for forgiveness for your vasectomy? It's not too late to reverse it!

Yes I actually did tell a priest about it. Now that youre done mocking your own religion yet again, you going to concede the fact that embryos are human lives?

49 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes I actually did tell a priest about it. Now that youre done mocking your own religion yet again, you going to concede the fact that embryos are human lives?

When are you going to concede that embryos are not yet, living breathing, humans that can survive without being physically attached to its mother. And when are you going to concede that regardless of your beliefs, it’s none of your business what a living breathing adult does with there body? It’s none of your business until that embryo is born and takes a breath. Oddly, that is exactly when you should stand up and celebrate the sanctity of life, but unless they look like you and think like you, you couldn’t care less what happens to them when they do become living breathing humans beings. I don’t know if there is a god or not, but if you are the type of person that it takes favor with, it can GFI. 

3 hours ago, Mike31mt said:

Yes I actually did tell a priest about it. Now that youre done mocking your own religion yet again, you going to concede the fact that embryos are human lives?

I bet you did, but if you were actually serious about it rather than lying to yourself about how devout you are, you'd get it reversed. 

12 hours ago, Tnt4philly said:

When are you going to concede that embryos are not yet, living breathing, humans that can survive without being physically attached to its mother. And when are you going to concede that regardless of your beliefs, it’s none of your business what a living breathing adult does with there body? It’s none of your business until that embryo is born and takes a breath. Oddly, that is exactly when you should stand up and celebrate the sanctity of life, but unless they look like you and think like you, you couldn’t care less what happens to them when they do become living breathing humans beings. I don’t know if there is a god or not, but if you are the type of person that it takes favor with, it can GFI. 

I like how you snuck "breathing" in there since your previous stance has been utterly destroyed by science.  Embryos are living humans, and as I said before, humans have a right to life.

I believe it's our job as a society to protect those without a voice, and unborn humans deserve that protection from abortion for convenience.  

As far as the bolded, this is completely baseless nonsense. Again, minorities are the overwhelming victims of abortion, so I guess I'm the one protecting minorities and you'd rather they be aborted.  Weird how that works.

9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I bet you did, but if you were actually serious about it rather than lying to yourself about how devout you are, you'd get it reversed. 

When are you going to reverse your resoundingly incorrect opinion about human embryos?  That doesn't take surgery--just an ounce of humility which apparently you lack.

 

And I guess we'll never see dawk4prez again in here 

Another one who's smarter than embryologists, biologists, the American College of Pediatricians, Princeton, and the NIH.

wow, a page from the pro-life group at Princeton, a pro-life PhD student asking poorly phrased questions to biologists to engineer the desired response, and a conservative advocacy group of pediatricians that also argues against gay and lesbian rights. 

 

OH YEAH, WELL I HAVE THIS PAPER FROM A QUEER HERMAPHRODITE WHO HABITUALLY INSEMINATES THEMSELVES AND HAS ABORTIONS ON THE WEEKEND FOR THE FUN OF IT WHO SAYS YOU'RE WRONG!! 

39 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

When are you going to reverse your resoundingly incorrect opinion about human embryos?  That doesn't take surgery--just an ounce of humility which apparently you lack.

 

And I guess we'll never see dawk4prez again in here 

So you're not going to reverse it? Shame is upon your shoulders, sinner. You need to repent and reverse the procedure otherwise you're no better than those you decry. No longer a Christian, you are only a fraud pretending to be one. How will you be able to live the rest of your life with this guilt? A true Catholic would treat this matter far more seriously.

35 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

the American College of Pediatricians, 

another trumpbot moron duped by the "official" sounding name of this group

19 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

wow, a page from the pro-life group at Princeton, a pro-life PhD student asking poorly phrased questions to biologists to engineer the desired response, and a conservative advocacy group of pediatricians that also argues against gay and lesbian rights. 

 

OH YEAH, WELL I HAVE THIS PAPER FROM A QUEER HERMAPHRODITE WHO HABITUALLY INSEMINATES THEMSELVES AND HAS ABORTIONS ON THE WEEKEND FOR THE FUN OF IT WHO SAYS YOU'RE WRONG!! 

What about the NIH and their survey showing overwhelming support by biologists of human life beginning at fertilization?

Where are your sources???

Amazing how far you all will go to deny science when it doesn't agree with your liberal talking points.

 

 

Just now, we_gotta_believe said:

another trumpbot moron duped by the "official" sounding name of this group

Oh so we've reached the point of the debate where you just straight up deny every source as not good enough because you're too proud to admit youre wrong

it wasn't the NIH stunad.

it was a paper studied by a pro-life PhD student who published in Issues in Law & Medicine, and was picked up by the NIH in its archive. 

if you want you can go ahead and "publish" a study too: https://issuesinlawandmedicine.com/author-submission-checklist/

being on NIH's pubmed archive does not mean that the NIH endorsed, published, or agreed with every study you smooth-brained nimrod.

a fertilized egg is "biological life" in the same way as sperm, an unfertilized egg, skin cells, and brain cells (look them up, maybe you can find a donor) are life. biologically it's alive. it does not mean it's a human, nor does it mean that legal rights are conferred on it.

that's enough for today, I'll not dignify any more motivated reasoning based ignorance with acknowledgement now that I've had my 2nd cup of coffee. 

7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

it wasn't the NIH stunad.

it was a paper studied by a pro-life PhD student who published in Issues in Law & Medicine, and was picked up by the NIH in its archive. 

if you want you can go ahead and "publish" a study too: https://issuesinlawandmedicine.com/author-submission-checklist/

being on NIH's pubmed archive does not mean that the NIH endorsed, published, or agreed with every study you smooth-brained nimrod.

a fertilized egg is "biological life" in the same way as sperm, an unfertilized egg, skin cells, and brain cells (look them up, maybe you can find a donor) are life. biologically it's alive. it does not mean it's a human, nor does it mean that legal rights are conferred on it.

that's enough for today, I'll not dignify any more motivated reasoning based ignorance with acknowledgement now that I've had my 2nd cup of coffee. 

No it is not.  False.  As has been demonstrated repeatedly, a human embryo is a fully coded genetic human.  This is clearly different from a sperm or an unfertilized egg.

That's why virtually every embryologist and biologist agrees with me and not you

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

I like how you snuck "breathing" in there since your previous stance has been utterly destroyed by science.  Embryos are living humans, and as I said before, humans have a right to life.

I believe it's our job as a society to protect those without a voice, and unborn humans deserve that protection from abortion for convenience.  

As far as the bolded, this is completely baseless nonsense. Again, minorities are the overwhelming victims of abortion, so I guess I'm the one protecting minorities and you'd rather they be aborted.  Weird how that works.

Spare me the pseudo-science. 

by a pure scientific definition and embryo would be classified as a parasite btw

if there is a god, let it be between the person and their god. Stop parroting one of the most corrupt religions on the planet. Also at Vatican 2 the commitees on birth control found no reason to ban it. Twice. Then the pope overruled them. Time and time again highly flawed humans…not a deity…proclaimed these things

24 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Oh so we've reached the point of the debate where you just straight up deny every source as not good enough because you're too proud to admit youre wrong

You're so stupid, I love it.  

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

No it is not.  False.  As has been demonstrated repeatedly, a human embryo is a fully coded genetic human.  This is clearly different from a sperm or an unfertilized egg.

That's why virtually every embryologist and biologist agrees with me and not you.

What they do in your head, and what is written, are not the same. Less than half of fertilized eggs ever make it to week 6. Nobody argues your stupid points about embryos being different from sperm and eggs. You just keep throwing such things into the air for reasons known only to you.

26 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Oh so we've reached the point of the debate where you just straight up deny every source as not good enough because you're too proud to admit youre wrong

The irony…it burns

2 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Spare me the pseudo-science. 

by a pure scientific definition and embryo would be classified as a parasite btw

if there is a god, let it be between the person and their god. Stop parroting one of the most corrupt religions on the planet. Also at Vatican 2 the commitees on birth control found no reason to ban it. Twice. Then the pope overruled them. Time and time again highly flawed humans…not a deity…proclaimed these things

Lol a parasite with human DNA that is alive. This is not pseudoscience, this is biology and embryology.

Again I am citing overwhelming opinions of scientists not religion.

Is it alive or dead?  Alive

Is it human or not? Human.

It's a living human.  Deal with it.

2 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

What they do in your head, and what is written, are not the same. Less than half of fertilized eggs ever make it to week 6. Nobody argues your stupid points about embryos being different from sperm and eggs. You just keep throwing such things into the air for reasons known only to you.

The beginning of human life is fertilization. Human embryos are human lives.  Facts.

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Lol a parasite with human DNA that is alive.

Wait, are you implying that parasites aren't otherwise alive?  

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Lol a parasite with human DNA that is alive. This is not pseudoscience, this is biology and embryology.

Again I am citing overwhelming opinions of scientists not religion.

Is it alive or dead?  Alive

Is it human or not? Human.

It's a living human.  Deal with it.

Until you reverse your vasectomy, you're just a fraud that's masquerading as a Catholic. Deal with it.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Wait, are you implying that parasites aren't otherwise alive?  

And you say I'm dumb?  This has become an exercise for you to deflect and avoid the basic argument at all costs.

Parasites are alive, sure.  They're not human though.

Wow this is so unbelievably stupid.

"Biologists from 1,058 academic institutions around the world assessed survey items on when a human's life begins and, overall, 96% (5337 out of 5577) affirmed the fertilization view."

But no, some morons from the EMB believe MSNBC instead