September 28, 20241 yr Guys like him can’t be making decisions about women’s health. I believe every state allows a baby to be born in the 9th month. I hope so.
October 30, 20241 yr A Texas woman died after the hospital said it would be a "crime” to intervene in her miscarriage More than a dozen doctors say Josseli Barnica's death was "preventable," "horrific" and "astounding" https://www.salon.com/2024/10/30/a-texas-woman-after-the-hospital-said-it-would-be-a-to-intervene-in-her-miscarriage_partner/ Another Texas woman dead, because the hospitals are afraid to practice medicine. "Pro-life" my anus.
October 31, 20241 yr Let me preface this by saying I’m not a fan of the Texas law. However, the law makes an exception for abortion for when the life of the mother is at risk, so why didn’t the physicians perform the procedure?
October 31, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said: Let me preface this by saying I’m not a fan of the Texas law. However, the law makes an exception for abortion for when the life of the mother is at risk, so why didn’t the physicians perform the procedure? Because they don't want to end up in court having to prove it was medically necessary. If they feel there's any chance that the decision could be called into doubt, they're probably not willing to risk the liability. Pretty much exactly as it was predicted when these trigger laws became effective. And when you've got hours to live, you can't exactly shop around for a second opinion that easily, so it only takes one doctor that's gun shy to become the single point of failure. The concept of a strict abortion ban with exceptions sounds fine in theory but works poorly in practice when you turn the victims into suspects by forcing them to prove they were raped, they miscarried, their health is at risk, etc. The GOP took the throne away from the dems as the party of unintended consequences.
October 31, 20241 yr On 9/27/2024 at 8:48 PM, toolg said: Guys like him can’t be making decisions about women’s health. I believe every state allows a baby to be born in the 9th month. I hope so. My mom just aborted me last week.
October 31, 20241 yr 14 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said: Let me preface this by saying I’m not a fan of the Texas law. However, the law makes an exception for abortion for when the life of the mother is at risk, so why didn’t the physicians perform the procedure? Had doctors performed the procedure, she would not have contracted the fatal infection. She would have lived. Then the responsibility is on the doctors to prove her life was at risk. How were doctors supposed to know 40 hours in advance she was going to contract the infection that killed her? The hospital had to wait until her life was at risk and it was too late to save her.
November 4, 20241 yr Texas doctors ask lawmakers to change the state abortion law after preventable deaths.
November 4, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, toolg said: Texas doctors ask lawmakers to change the state abortion law after preventable deaths. Like doctors would know better than the great state of Texas.
November 4, 20241 yr On 11/1/2024 at 11:06 AM, toolg said: Another pregnant woman denied hospital care in Texas, dies of sepsis. That's horrible.
November 4, 20241 yr On 10/7/2024 at 4:54 PM, Toastrel said: That's why I laugh when people say go to another state. They are trying to prevent that too. Do you really want your tax dollars being used to create IT infrastructure to track women's periods and pregnancies? Another problem is that exceptions don't mention genetic disorders that are discovered in vitro. Why would you want the government involved in that decision? Sometimes you have a situation where the pregnancy is not harmful to the mother but the fetus is not compatible with a high quality of life like anencephaly.
November 4, 20241 yr 13 hours ago, toolg said: Texas doctors ask lawmakers to change the state abortion law after preventable deaths. The law won't change so good doctors with a conscience will just leave the state, thereby only leaving the cultist docs left to deal with same number of patients. This self-reinforcing feedback loop repeats for a decade or more thereby making a bad problem far worse. This is the post-Roe world they wanted, and they will have to deal with the fallout. As a father with two daughters, I'd legitimately have to consider moving to a different state knowing that someday my own child could be in that situation, begging for help that might never come.
November 4, 20241 yr On 10/30/2024 at 9:13 PM, Phillyterp85 said: Let me preface this by saying I’m not a fan of the Texas law. However, the law makes an exception for abortion for when the life of the mother is at risk, so why didn’t the physicians perform the procedure? Because of these poorly formed laws like the heartbeat law. You can have a robust healthy heartbeat and you can have a faint heartbeat of a declining fetus. But because there is still a heartbeat the medical professional will abide by the law and not do anything unless the heartbeat is no longer detected OR the mother starts to show signs of decline in health. In some cases while the fetus is in a decline with a faint heartbeat sepsis could be forming and by the time the heartbeat is no longer detected sepsis could be too advanced to save the mother. If a medical professional is being threatened with felony prosecution why would they risk their livelihood because of ambiguous poorly written law by non-medical professional politicians? Its like if you have a chip in your windshield. If you are smart you get that fixed right away instead of letting a relatively minor problem become more serious and expensive one like a large crack that will require you to replace the whole windshield.
November 4, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: The law won't change so good doctors with a conscience will just leave the state, thereby only leaving the cultist docs left to deal with same number of patients. This self-reinforcing feedback loop repeats for a decade or more thereby making a bad problem far worse. This is the post-Roe world they wanted, and they will have to deal with the fallout. As a father with two daughters, I'd legitimately have to consider moving to a different state knowing that someday my own child could be in that situation, begging for help that might never come. Some people think it just impacts women going through pregnancies. Obgyns also help women in situations where they are experiencing issues related to their reproductive organs like cancer. A lot of these states with abortion ban are showing a decline in medical professionals choosing to do residencies in these states. Some hospitals are choosing to shut down maternity wards because they don't want to deal with felony prosecution. This just leads to less choices and higher costs for the people that remain in these areas.
November 4, 20241 yr And they're watering down the curriculum which means why go to texas to become an obgyn if the gloss over the reality of abortion being part of healthcare? This is something that impacts your career overall. You're not going to be as prepared as an obgyn in a state without ban.
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