@Outlaw

Do you want to start the "trade for Jessie Bates" hype train or do you want me to do it? 

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

@Outlaw

Do you want to start the "trade for Jessie Bates" hype train or do you want me to do it? 

Would have to sign him to an extension, not sure the Eagles have the cap to do it, and it would have to wait until June 1st to get the room from the Cox release.

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

@Outlaw

Do you want to start the "trade for Jessie Bates" hype train or do you want me to do it? 

I can't see it happening unfortunately.

1 hour ago, justrelax said:

Agree. 

Beyond Grant's excellence in tactics, his command of strategy was far greater than Lee's. Lee was a regional commander, whereas Grant grasped the full picture.

In fairness to Lee, he had to deal with Jefferson Davis, while Grant had Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln knew what he had in Grant.   He appreciated that Grant was intent only on victory for the Union and not self-aggrandizement.  

43 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

Yeah well he needs to apologize for drafting JJAW first.  

Let's pump the brakes on the Howie slob knobbing.  On paper, he 100% has made some solid moves that SHOULD improve this team, especially on defense.  Every move comes with questions however.

Hasson Reddick-  Does Gannon use him the right way?  Is he really going to be used as this WMD or is he going to be miscast and not used to his strengths?  He's had double digit sacks each of the last 2 seasons...we should expect nothing less. 

AJ Brown- Does he get the targets to justify $100 million contract and 2 draft picks?

Jordan Davis- Can he stay in shape and does he see a respectable snap count worthy of trading up for?

James Bradberry- Is he a 1-year Band-Aid and how does he perform?

Fletcher Cox- Does he offer this team anything more than eating up double teams at this point in his career?  Will we see his typical play hard one out of every four games?

Kyzir White- Can he break the FA LB who gets cut streak?  Adding Dean in the draft changed a lot of the LB room dynamic.  I don't think TJ Edwards is just going to go away either.  If Edwards plays well in TC and Davion Taylor can stay healthy and continue his progression, could White be the odd man out before the season starts?

Zach Pascal- Let's hope they use his roster spot based on his talent rather than his friendship with the HC.  If he's out performed and doesn't deserve to be on the team, I hope they make the right call.

Jalen Hurts- I'm putting him on the list because Howie is sticking with him and everything rides on the success or failures of Jalen Hurts.  If he doesn't improve and they keep going with him, we have a problem.

Saints trade- really don't have an issue with it.  Would have loved 3 fist rounders this year but 2 next year with the additional picks should only help.

 

I'm just being objective rather than crowning Howie the best GM in the world.  Let's see how the season plays out.  If these signings all work out, last years draft class continues to produce and the 2022 class/UDFA class contribute then yes, Howie deserves lots of credit as he should.  

22 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Let me point out i wouldn’t want either long term at this point. However i saw teammates not want Tua to start on the dolphins and for moving on from him heading into year 2. I rather have hurts. Even hurts numbers last year were better than Tua who played 13 games. And hurts played 15. Even at Tua’s pace he was going to be right where jalen hurts was as a passer in terms of yardage. And i think he’s more injury prone 

lol. Look at all the usual attention-****s getting bent out of shape over a joke picture. 😂😂

 

what’s wrong? Scared to get your hopes up? Oh no!! Not optimism and hope! My thing but that! 

Is it to early to point out the recent success we have had signing former Giants ??

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Let's pump the brakes on the Howie slob knobbing.  On paper, he 100% has made some solid moves that SHOULD improve this team, especially on defense.  Every move comes with questions however.

Hasson Reddick-  Does Gannon use him the right way?  Is he really going to be used as this WMD or is he going to be miscast and not used to his strengths?  He's had double digit sacks each of the last 2 seasons...we should expect nothing less. 

AJ Brown- Does he get the targets to justify $100 million contract and 2 draft picks?

Jordan Davis- Can he stay in shape and does he see a respectable snap count worthy of trading up for?

James Bradberry- Is he a 1-year Band-Aid and how does he perform?

Fletcher Cox- Does he offer this team anything more than eating up double teams at this point in his career?  Will we see his typical play hard one out of every four games?

Kyzir White- Can he break the FA LB who gets cut streak?  Adding Dean in the draft changed a lot of the LB room dynamic.  I don't think TJ Edwards is just going to go away either.  If Edwards plays well in TC and Davion Taylor can stay healthy and continue his progression, could White be the odd man out before the season starts?

Zach Pascal- Let's hope they use his roster spot based on his talent rather than his friendship with the HC.  If he's out performed and doesn't deserve to be on the team, I hope they make the right call.

Jalen Hurts- I'm putting him on the list because Howie is sticking with him and everything rides on the success or failures of Jalen Hurts.  If he doesn't improve and they keep going with him, we have a problem.

Saints trade- really don't have an issue with it.  Would have loved 3 fist rounders this year but 2 next year with the additional picks should only help.

 

I'm just being objective rather than crowning Howie the best GM in the world.  Let's see how the season plays out.  If these signings all work out, last years draft class continues to produce and the 2022 class/UDFA class contribute then yes, Howie deserves lots of credit as he should.  

I don’t take much issue with anything you pointed out other than 1) Pascal is basically a lock to be the third or fourth most talented WR on the roster. I could probably make the team 😂 2) I think you’re underestimating Kyzir White 

 

But overall, I see what you’re saying, but that’s an extremely pessimistic view. Every move every team makes has question marks. But on paper, it’s a big change for Howie after a couple of really bad offseasons. This is almost back to 2017 status, depending on how it works out. The problem with Howie’s bad offseasons is that they were bad on paper. They just ended up turning out exactly how we thought they would 😂

I'm not sold on Kyzir White. He's an undersized LB that was part of the worst run defense in the league and just racked up a lot of tackles. He just turned 26 and the best deal he could get was 1 year $3M. Eric Wilson last year got more than that. Just a lot of red flags for me. 

Based on this offseason, good draft, FA signings and trades, the only thing left is for Hurts to get injured week 14 at Chicago, RTK declares the season ended the moment Hurts was injured, Minshew will take over and the rest will be history.

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Is it to early to point out the recent success we have had signing former Giants ??

Yes. I’m not finished enjoying Mark Bavaro’s 1993/1994 seasons. 

1 minute ago, blindside said:

I don’t take much issue with anything you pointed out other than 1) Pascal is basically a lock to be the third or fourth most talented WR on the roster. I could probably make the team 😂 2) I think you’re underestimating Kyzir White 

 

But overall, I see what you’re saying, but that’s an extremely pessimistic view. Every move every team makes has question marks. But on paper, it’s a big change for Howie after a couple of really bad offseasons. This is almost back to 2017 status, depending on how it works out. The problem with Howie’s bad offseasons is that they were bad on paper. They just ended up turning out exactly how we thought they would 😂

I was purposefully showing the other side of how things could play out.  I don't think that will be the case at all.  

I think they've made very solid moves.  From what I understand about Pascal is he's a core 4 ST guy too.  I could be mistaken.  I just don't want any favors for guys being kept on the team.  

I also don't know what to think of Kyzir White yet.  I know the staff loves TJ Edwards though and from what I've learned about him and his character, he's not going to go away.  Davion Taylor was on his way to contributing last year before he blew a tire out going 22mph.  That's his issue...can he stay healthy.  JaCoby Stevens could also surprise.  Before his injuries, he was getting a lot of run with the 1s in TC last year.  

The LB room is crowded.  White could end up a starter and earn an extension or he could be gone if you ask me.

18 minutes ago, The Holy Vagabond said:

lol. Look at all the usual attention-****s getting bent out of shape over a joke picture. 😂😂

 

what’s wrong? Scared to get your hopes up? Oh no!! Not optimism and hope! My thing but that! 

Can you reference exactly what you are talking about? 

41 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

🤣 We finally win a SB and you act like we should be in it every year. The fact that Wentz was supposed to be the guy and collapsed with an aging roster, we are set up nice now. If Hurts gets good or we find one next year we are good to go. Reagor was a failure but get over it.

As great as it was it's a thing of the past now. We haven't done anything since then. We've squeaked into the playoffs by either a horrible division or the expanded seeding and quickly were eliminated

We are set up nicely (I even said that in here) but how long do you give this timeline of this team?

16 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Let's pump the brakes on the Howie slob knobbing.  On paper, he 100% has made some solid moves that SHOULD improve this team, especially on defense.  Every move comes with questions however.

Hasson Reddick-  Does Gannon use him the right way?  Is he really going to be used as this WMD or is he going to be miscast and not used to his strengths?  He's had double digit sacks each of the last 2 seasons...we should expect nothing less. 

AJ Brown- Does he get the targets to justify $100 million contract and 2 draft picks?

Jordan Davis- Can he stay in shape and does he see a respectable snap count worthy of trading up for?

James Bradberry- Is he a 1-year Band-Aid and how does he perform?

Fletcher Cox- Does he offer this team anything more than eating up double teams at this point in his career?  Will we see his typical play hard one out of every four games?

Kyzir White- Can he break the FA LB who gets cut streak?  Adding Dean in the draft changed a lot of the LB room dynamic.  I don't think TJ Edwards is just going to go away either.  If Edwards plays well in TC and Davion Taylor can stay healthy and continue his progression, could White be the odd man out before the season starts?

Zach Pascal- Let's hope they use his roster spot based on his talent rather than his friendship with the HC.  If he's out performed and doesn't deserve to be on the team, I hope they make the right call.

Jalen Hurts- I'm putting him on the list because Howie is sticking with him and everything rides on the success or failures of Jalen Hurts.  If he doesn't improve and they keep going with him, we have a problem.

Saints trade- really don't have an issue with it.  Would have loved 3 fist rounders this year but 2 next year with the additional picks should only help.

 

I'm just being objective rather than crowning Howie the best GM in the world.  Let's see how the season plays out.  If these signings all work out, last years draft class continues to produce and the 2022 class/UDFA class contribute then yes, Howie deserves lots of credit as he should.  

Cox was on a decline. Not sure if it was his usage or what

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the passing game because of Hurts. Lurie wants a passing offense and Howie got the weapons. Hopefully we can find him quick if Hurts isn't it as expected

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nah.  That’s complete horseshit.  You can’t be a ghost in here while Howie is making a ton of dumb decisions and then come back with this BS after he had a good couple of months.  Weak AF.  

Stop it you attention getter. 

I won't say sweep but Eagles should be able to beat Dallas at least once this year. They have a better roster besides the most glaring spot. 

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I was purposefully showing the other side of how things could play out.  I don't think that will be the case at all.  

I think they've made very solid moves.  From what I understand about Pascal is he's a core 4 ST guy too.  I could be mistaken.  I just don't want any favors for guys being kept on the team.  

I also don't know what to think of Kyzir White yet.  I know the staff loves TJ Edwards though and from what I've learned about him and his character, he's not going to go away.  Davion Taylor was on his way to contributing last year before he blew a tire out going 22mph.  That's his issue...can he stay healthy.  JaCoby Stevens could also surprise.  Before his injuries, he was getting a lot of run with the 1s in TC last year.  

The LB room is crowded.  White could end up a starter and earn an extension or he could be gone if you ask me.

If a few of that room can play like honest-to-god NFL linebackers,  it'll be a pleasant change from the past few years.

15 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Nah.  That’s complete horseshit.  You can’t be a ghost in here while Howie is making a ton of dumb decisions and then come back with this BS after he had a good couple of months.  Weak AF.  

"Dumb decisions?” If you ask afan, the only dumb decision Howie has ever made is not cloning himself. 

4 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

If a few of that room can play like honest-to-god NFL linebackers,  it'll be a pleasant change from the past few years.

Yeah I’d be happy to have a LB room with too much talent. Been a while since that. 

53 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Let's pump the brakes on the Howie slob knobbing.  On paper, he 100% has made some solid moves that SHOULD improve this team, especially on defense.  Every move comes with questions however.

Hasson Reddick-  Does Gannon use him the right way?  Is he really going to be used as this WMD or is he going to be miscast and not used to his strengths?  He's had double digit sacks each of the last 2 seasons...we should expect nothing less. 

AJ Brown- Does he get the targets to justify $100 million contract and 2 draft picks?

Jordan Davis- Can he stay in shape and does he see a respectable snap count worthy of trading up for?

James Bradberry- Is he a 1-year Band-Aid and how does he perform?

Fletcher Cox- Does he offer this team anything more than eating up double teams at this point in his career?  Will we see his typical play hard one out of every four games?

Kyzir White- Can he break the FA LB who gets cut streak?  Adding Dean in the draft changed a lot of the LB room dynamic.  I don't think TJ Edwards is just going to go away either.  If Edwards plays well in TC and Davion Taylor can stay healthy and continue his progression, could White be the odd man out before the season starts?

Zach Pascal- Let's hope they use his roster spot based on his talent rather than his friendship with the HC.  If he's out performed and doesn't deserve to be on the team, I hope they make the right call.

Jalen Hurts- I'm putting him on the list because Howie is sticking with him and everything rides on the success or failures of Jalen Hurts.  If he doesn't improve and they keep going with him, we have a problem.

Saints trade- really don't have an issue with it.  Would have loved 3 fist rounders this year but 2 next year with the additional picks should only help.

 

I'm just being objective rather than crowning Howie the best GM in the world.  Let's see how the season plays out.  If these signings all work out, last years draft class continues to produce and the 2022 class/UDFA class contribute then yes, Howie deserves lots of credit as he should.  

These are all fair points. The moves have to work for it to look good, same with any other team. But I think a greater perspective is needed. This team was in absolute shambles after the 2020 season. 4-win season, Franchise QB gone, coach fired, and in cap hell. That had 5 years of living in the doldrums and being bottom of the barrel written all over it. And that is the case with most teams. 

I think they've done a hell of a job in less than two years to right the ship and at least provide some optimism going into this season. Something that they can build off of the successful season they had last year (yes, it was a success), where no one here had them finishing above .500 let alone making the playoffs. There are obviously still question marks, the biggest one being if Hurts can claim the long-term job and solidify himself as the QB moving forward. 

But I don't think anyone had them being in the spot they are now after 2020 ended, less than two years later. There's hope not only for this season, but 2023 as well with two first rounders next year. If Hurts proves he isn't the guy next season, then the next QB is walking into a great situation. That's all you can really ask for at this point. And if he is the guy, then you can spend those two first rounders next year to create an even stronger unit on other positions of need. This is a very, very dangerous team in the future if Hurts can take the next step. But that's a big "if". 

It's the maneuvers and the effort that I'm most impressed and happy with. 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

These are all fair points. The moves have to work for it to look good, same with any other team. But I think a greater perspective is needed. This team was in absolute shambles after the 2020 season. 4-win season, Franchise QB gone, coach fired, and in cap hell. That had 5 years of living in the doldrums and being bottom of the barrel written all over it. And that is the case with most teams. 

I think they've done a hell of a job in less than two years to right the ship and at least provide some optimism going into this season. Something that they can build off of the successful season they had last year (yes, it was a success), where no one here had them finishing above .500 let alone making the playoffs. There are obviously still question marks, the biggest one being if Hurts can claim the long-term job and solidify himself as the QB moving forward. 

But I don't think anyone had them being in the spot they are now after 2020 ended, less than two years later. There's hope not only for this season, but 2023 as well. If Hurts proves he isn't the guy next season, then the next QB is walking into a great situation. That's all you can really ask for at this point. 

It's the maneuvers and the effort that I'm most impressed and happy with. 

I'm sure it was mentioned how teams can turn around quickly if the right moves are made

Agreed that the next QB whether it's Strong or a 2023 draft pick is set up very nicely on offense

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I won't say sweep but Eagles should be able to beat Dallas at least once this year. They have a better roster besides the most glaring spot. 

Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?

If Hurts plays like even just the 16th best QB they should win, is the point.