9 hours ago, schuy7 said:

I mean, it wasn't a gimmick though. It was just a power running game, with the read option off of it, plus play action. It's a scheme that works consistently.

To beat bad teams sure. It how a bad team becomes mediocre. But thats about the ceiling for it unless you manage to assemble an elite defense

Crazy prediction for the season.  Russell Wilson helps Travis Fulgham become a legit WR this year.

Most QBs don't change their throwing style, they just make small tweaks. Muscle memory is a real thing.

 

14 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

I just don't get Maddox being this top slot guy. He's ok, I would say above average even, but that's about it. He doesn't come up and lay the wood, not intimidating but feisty and sticky though. I still don't think he's worth 8 mil a year. We picked up Moreland who's similar to Maddox in size and style. Would it kill them to bring in a slot corner a little bigger and stronger, I don't get it. 

The most important attribute of a slot corner is quickness. The guys he covers have two-way goes. Bigger and stronger guys get left behind. So many of the top slot receivers are ~5’9” and ~ 180. 

Since division realignment:

Giants having the same # of div titles as WAS is a little surprising, and also infuriating considering somehow they still managed to pull out two SB wins.

Also, we have no 3rd place finishes, yet have more bottom of the div seasons than DAL and NYG, so when we suck we go for the jugular. 🤪

11 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Who has the most to prove in 2022 with the talent around them. Sirianni, Gannon, or Hurts.

Sirianni is kind of an under the radar one. It’s widely accepted he had a good year in 2021, and I guess he did, but I still have no idea how good of a coach the dude is. They basically ran the ball down the throats of bad teams and were terrible against teams above .500. I have no idea how to evaluate that coaching job, honestly. I was hoping for at least one game where they came in as heavy underdogs and he came in there and out coached the better team just one time and it didn’t happen.

As for the question, I’m going to Gannon. Main reason: the defense had the biggest turnover and Gannon had way more hype than Hurts did. When the Eagles hired Gannon don’t forget he was labeled by some as this genius DC everyone was gushing over him and he was as ordinary as it gets. Now all the Gannon stans in the media are like "now he has all the pieces he can run his real defense!” Ok, then it better be impressive. If we see bums like Davis Mills completing 75% passes on this defense all year, then this dude is a fraud.

 Hurts, then Gannon.   Unless the defense is awful through 7-8 games Gannon will keep his job.  If Hurts play is similar to 2021’s first 7 games, which isn’t awful, he just wasn’t good enough, he’ll get benched by week 5, especially if the stories are true about Lurie taking a step back.  

9 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

Without Hurts mastering the "throw more, run less” technique, his throwing motion won’t mean squat in the grand scheme.  Distribute the football 

His brain is thinking run instead of progressing through targets

12 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Hurts, then Gannon.   Unless the defense is awful through 7-8 games Gannon will keep his job.  If Hurts play is similar to 2021’s first 7 games, which isn’t awful, he just wasn’t good enough, he’ll get benched by week 5, especially if the stories are true about Lurie taking a step back.  

Hurts' stats from Week 5-13 last season dictated he should be headed for the bench before he got injured.  Sirianni wouldn't have done it, but that's where his play was headed.

I listened to KJ Wright yesterday on NFL Radio (disliked him as a player, but he was actually quite good on his initial broadcast), and he says what the Eagles need to do is "turn Hurts loose" this season.  He felt, playing for the Raiders against the Eagles last season, that the offense was "too vanilla".  I doubt he recognized what many Eagles fans saw -- that Sirianni scaled down the offense to what Hurts could manage.

51 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Hurts' stats from Week 5-13 last season dictated he should be headed for the bench before he got injured.  Sirianni wouldn't have done it, but that's where his play was headed.

I listened to KJ Wright yesterday on NFL Radio (disliked him as a player, but he was actually quite good on his initial broadcast), and he says what the Eagles need to do is "turn Hurts loose" this season.  He felt, playing for the Raiders against the Eagles last season, that the offense was "too vanilla".  I doubt he recognized what many Eagles fans saw -- that Sirianni scaled down the offense to what Hurts could manage.

 That was Greg Cosell’s biggest complaint about Hurts, how can you judge Hurts progress as a passer when they’re running a HS/Baltimore offense, with one read. 
 Tra Thomas did a good breaking down the playoff game for ITB.  Almost every time a RB lined up on Hurts left side, then crossed in front of him to make a block after the snap, just that flash of color of the Eagles uniform messed Hurts up and threw him off a bit.  
 It happened enough times that Siriani should of stopped calling those plays. 

17 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 That was Greg Cosell’s biggest complaint about Hurts, how can you judge Hurts progress as a passer when they’re running a HS/Baltimore offense, with one read. 
 Tra Thomas did a good breaking down the playoff game for ITB.  Almost every time a RB lined up on Hurts left side, then crossed in front of him to make a block after the snap, just that flash of color of the Eagles uniform messed Hurts up and threw him off a bit.  
 It happened enough times that Siriani should of stopped calling those plays. 

Well, that sort of tells you just about everything you need to know about how the coaches evaluated him.  That's all they could trust him to handle.  That wasn't how they started the year, but it's how they finished the year.  Ironically, that's the opposite of what you would want to see from a 'basically a rookie' QB.  Ideally, you'd want to see your QB get better at the finer points of the game and the position and start to grow into the job.  Instead, they went the other way with Hurts as the season went on.

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

The most important attribute of a slot corner is quickness. The guys he covers have two-way goes. Bigger and stronger guys get left behind. So many of the top slot receivers are ~5’9” and ~ 180. 

The slot corner I always loved was Chris Harris. 5-10 199. I do get slot guys needing to be shifty, sticky, quick with great instincts and guys that are smaller tend to have those traits. But Chris was one of, if not the top slot guy for a few years and he just has a different form of physicality that I'm hoping we get. Kenny Moore is another. He is smaller but he brings a different level of physical play I want from Maddox. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Well, that sort of tells you just about everything you need to know about how the coaches evaluated him.  That's all they could trust him to handle.  That wasn't how they started the year, but it's how they finished the year.  Ironically, that's the opposite of what you would want to see from a 'basically a rookie' QB.  Ideally, you'd want to see your QB get better at the finer points of the game and the position and start to grow into the job.  Instead, they went the other way with Hurts as the season went on.

I'd want a rookie QB to not be freaked out by a flash of color by the time they get to the NFL. 

3 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

I'd want a rookie QB to not be freaked out by a flash of color by the time they get to the NFL. 

Also true.

Foles agent dropped the ball, backup QB's make $10M per year at least 

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

The most important attribute of a slot corner is quickness. The guys he covers have two-way goes. Bigger and stronger guys get left behind. So many of the top slot receivers are ~5’9” and ~ 180. 

Agility is as important as speed in the slot.  It is also so important for WRs. That is what I don’t understand about the scouting of JJAW and Reagor. Both showed poor scoring in agility drills.

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Hellbent on making I-95 from D.C. to Richmond as unbearable as it could possibly be

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Foles agent dropped the ball, backup QB's make $10M per year at least 

Good deal for Foles. I am sure there are incentives in the contract and his best chance to play is behind Ryan (37).  Foles has pocketed more than his Dad did when he sold his restaurant chain.  I suspect after Chicago, this looked like the most stable opportunity for him to probably finish out his career. (Real age in the Colts QB room.  They will be shopping.). 

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Good deal for Foles. I am sure there are incentives in the contract and his best chance to play is behind Ryan (37).  Foles has pocketed more than his Dad did when he sold his restaurant chain.  I suspect after Chicago, this looked like the most stable opportunity for him to probably finish out his career. (Real age in the Colts QB room.  They will be shopping.). 

And goes to a system he is familiar with, with a coach he's familiar with.  Smart move for Nick. 

26 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Good deal for Foles. I am sure there are incentives in the contract and his best chance to play is behind Ryan (37).  Foles has pocketed more than his Dad did when he sold his restaurant chain.  I suspect after Chicago, this looked like the most stable opportunity for him to probably finish out his career. (Real age in the Colts QB room.  They will be shopping.). 

Great pick up for the Colts; it may actually save their season.  I have doubts Ryan has much left, but between him and Foles they give the Colts a lot of flexibility to make an actual long term plan at QB -- something they've botched since ruining Luck's career.  Ryan supposedly wants to play a few more years; time will tell.

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Crazy prediction for the season.  Russell Wilson helps Travis Fulgham become a legit WR this year.

Lol he’s buried behind so many WRs there

51 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Foles agent dropped the ball, backup QB's make $10M per year at least 

Foles' agent not getting him release prior to free agency is the bigger deal. A lot of teams either don't have cap room or cheap owners.

 

@downundermike

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Foles agent dropped the ball, backup QB's make $10M per year at least 

 

 

Surprised he doesn't get more.  He's a better option than Joe Flacco at this point and I'm pretty sure Flacco is making more from the Jets.  Chase Daniel also making way too much. 

Good for Nick, clearly my favorite Eagles quarterback in the modern age (no I didn't say best).In his shining moment he stepped up and brought it all home for us.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

@downundermike

New Zealand - yuck.

They are in the process of sacrificing science at the alter of wokeness.