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41 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Ain't official til it's official. If he's not getting the GM job, seems weird why the Eagles would just let him go.

They fired his brother already and he’s leaving to accept a position lower than the one he interviewed for.  Doesn’t seem like they have any issue letting him walk, and vice versa 

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7 hours ago, GoEagles5921 said:

Front office has just been destroyed which is unfortunate.  Will be interesting to see who fills all these positions.

They’re sick of working for that weasel 

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Why do you carry?  That’s the problem.  This suggests guns to deal with other people. This is gun worship. Pistols are worthless except against other humans. I hunted when I was younger. Pistols don’t work for hunting.  Hell, they are such an ineffective tool.  Make no mistake, guns are tools of death.  Good for huntings.   

Never took a firearm anywhere I wasn’t hunting.   30.6 and a good shotgun are sufficient to hunt.  No huge clips.  If you get off two shots, you are a heck of a hunter.    A .22 for varmints but not an issue for most of us. Learned to shoot with one but have had one in my hands in years. (Taught my son to shoot with one.)  40 guns is ridiculous.  Carrying is absurd.  Clips and semiautomatics are absurd.  Australia has it right. 

My ancestors grew up on the frontier.  Those movies are ridiculous. I have my great, great grandfather’s rifle.  Flint action, single shot.  No pistol on the hip.  I think @Original Sin is right.  Video game shoot ‘em games.  How many TV shows where the agent/officer kills the bad guy?  On the street the next day.  BS, firearm confiscated and desk duty at best.  Saw a "hero” movie the other day where he was killing bad guys, left and right. Basically a vigilante. No investigation or detention.  BS.  Leads to gun worship.  

BTW, I believe in unloaded guns in a safe with trigger lots.  Nothing I am going to hunt is going to come in my house.  Pump action sound is all the deterrent I need 

Don't be ridiculous. I carry for the exact reason to defend myself and others if need be. As far as hunting with a pistol I have done that as well. Let's talk about the people slaughtered every day by drunk drivers where is your outrage to do away with alcohol? 

Around here a lot of people carry and as I said gun violence is very rare, we all have a/rs , pistols, shotguns, whatever is legal and poof no gun violence. The problem is people not guns, the problem is pretty simple. Kids are not taught that they may have someone to answer to for their actions.

 

Gun worship :roll:

11 hours ago, DoWorx said:

Gun Free Zones are bad

Not for the bad guy they're not.

35 minutes ago, greend said:

Don't be ridiculous. I carry for the exact reason to defend myself and others if need be. As far as hunting with a pistol I have done that as well. Let's talk about the people slaughtered every day by drunk drivers where is your outrage to do away with alcohol? 

Around here a lot of people carry and as I said gun violence is very rare, we all have a/rs , pistols, shotguns, whatever is legal and poof no gun violence. The problem is people not guns, the problem is pretty simple. Kids are not taught that they may have someone to answer to for their actions.

 

Gun worship :roll:

So, let‘s just carry on and act like these things don‘t happen. Nothing to see here, move along. Well, until your kid gets shot which changes the narrative for you I guess.

39 minutes ago, greend said:

Don't be ridiculous. I carry for the exact reason to defend myself and others if need be. As far as hunting with a pistol I have done that as well. Let's talk about the people slaughtered every day by drunk drivers where is your outrage to do away with alcohol? 

Around here a lot of people carry and as I said gun violence is very rare, we all have a/rs , pistols, shotguns, whatever is legal and poof no gun violence. The problem is people not guns, the problem is pretty simple. Kids are not taught that they may have someone to answer to for their actions.

 

Gun worship :roll:

I remember when drunk driving had its days in the spotlight.  Of course, one of the striking differences between drunk driving murder and weapons murder are the numbers.  I can't say there have been many drunk driving murders where double digit elementary school children have been murdered.

A study by the Violence Policy Center for the year 2020 shows 35 states have more gun violence deaths compared to motor vehicle deaths (of course not all motor vehicle deaths are drunk driving murders).  So to say gun violence is rare isn't truly accurate.  There is a study showing an average of 316 people per day in the US are victims of gun violence, an average of 106 die as a result.  

Likewise, there are far more gun owners who are not perpetrators of violence than those who are.  For the most part I agree that guns aren't the issue.  We should understand fully that as a species humans are exceedingly violent, have no real qualms about killing others individually or in large numbers, innocent bystanders, accepted collateral death, and so on.  it is our nature.  Sometimes we think it is justified, others it is a crime against humanity, but we don't want to put a stop to it.  That is us.

 

1 minute ago, Freshmilk said:

Likewise, there are far more gun owners who are not perpetrators of violence than those who are.  For the most part I agree that guns aren't the issue.  We should understand fully that as a species humans are exceedingly violent, have no real qualms about killing others individually or in large numbers, innocent bystanders, accepted collateral death, and so on.  Truly, it is our nature.  Sometimes we think it is justified, others it is a crime against humanity, but we don't truly want to put a stop to it.  That is us.

Yeah sure..

I am fortunate to live in a place that feels really safe. I am getting old and still have never seen a gun in my life that wasn‘t carried by a police officer. Nor have I ever seen a police officer draw a gun either.

If it was human nature why is it that it‘s a way bigger problem in the US than it is in other countries?

Take it to CVON

48 minutes ago, greend said:

Don't be ridiculous. I carry for the exact reason to defend myself and others if need be. As far as hunting with a pistol I have done that as well. Let's talk about the people slaughtered every day by drunk drivers where is your outrage to do away with alcohol? 

Around here a lot of people carry and as I said gun violence is very rare, we all have a/rs , pistols, shotguns, whatever is legal and poof no gun violence. The problem is people not guns, the problem is pretty simple. Kids are not taught that they may have someone to answer to for their actions.

 

Gun worship :roll:

Firearm related injuries are the single leading cause of death in children/adolescents in the US. It's not rare unfortunately. 

Seems to me that as a nation you accept these mass shootings as they becoming more normalised and almost expected to happen. With such non existant gun laws really, what do you expect?

As an outsider looking into your country, you appear to be absolutely Fed - its so ingrained in your culture how can you ever get out of this situation? A large amount of americans seem to care more about guns than they do about lives. 

Seems to be a form of brain washing, like russia.

I mean look at the state of this

 

 

 

49 minutes ago, greend said:

Don't be ridiculous. I carry for the exact reason to defend myself and others if need be. As far as hunting with a pistol I have done that as well. Let's talk about the people slaughtered every day by drunk drivers where is your outrage to do away with alcohol? 

Around here a lot of people carry and as I said gun violence is very rare, we all have a/rs , pistols, shotguns, whatever is legal and poof no gun violence. The problem is people not guns, the problem is pretty simple. Kids are not taught that they may have someone to answer to for their actions.

 

Gun worship :roll:

This is the problem. You literally cannot see past the end of your nose.

Why does no other country in the world have problems with guns like you? oh yeah because they control firearms in a sensible way.

 

12 hours ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, beating your kids isn't the solution to this...... if anything, that would contribute to a kid's messed up psyche. 

I differentiate between 1 well deserved swat and beating.

3 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

I differentiate between 1 well deserved swat and beating.

"More than 70% of Americans agreed in 2012 that, "it is sometimes necessary to discipline a child with a good, hard spanking.”[ii] Of course, there is a wide range in how people define ‘acceptable,’ both in terms of frequency and severity.“

https://www.brookings.edu/research/hitting-kids-american-parenting-and-physical-punishment/

Another topic that is probably impossible to understand from the outside. Try that in Europe and you get arrested, your kids probably taken away from you.. 

 

29 minutes ago, Infam said:

So, let‘s just carry on and act like these things don‘t happen. Nothing to see here, move along. Well, until your kid gets shot which changes the narrative for you I guess.

So, the solution isn't more gun control it's enforcing the laws which we now have i.e. nut cases can't legally buy or own guns. That said I guess you have no concern over drunk drivers until one of your kids get killed by one?

27 minutes ago, Infam said:

Yeah sure..

I am fortunate to live in a place that feels really safe. I am getting old and still have never seen a gun in my life that wasn‘t carried by a police officer. Nor have I ever seen a police officer draw a gun either.

If it was human nature why is it that it‘s a way bigger problem in the US than it is in other countries?

In which country isn't there violence against others?  The tools may be different but it is there.  If it wasn't our nature we wouldn't need militaries, we wouldn't comprehend wars, but we not only comprehend, we value war.  It is celebrated.  Those in it venerated.  Those against us, whoever and wherever us is, are vilified.  

Even pacifists think we are better off without people like Hitler or Mao, or Stalin, and that's just the past 100 years and only a few of the terrible people.

Can there be pockets where it is not overt?  Of course, but it needs to be understood as pocket.  Wish it is was more but the evidence is what it is.

32 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

I remember when drunk driving had its days in the spotlight.  Of course, one of the striking differences between drunk driving murder and weapons murder are the numbers.  I can't say there have been many drunk driving murders where double digit elementary school children have been murdered.

A study by the Violence Policy Center for the year 2020 shows 35 states have more gun violence deaths compared to motor vehicle deaths (of course not all motor vehicle deaths are drunk driving murders).  So to say gun violence is rare isn't truly accurate.  There is a study showing an average of 316 people per day in the US are victims of gun violence, an average of 106 die as a result.  

Likewise, there are far more gun owners who are not perpetrators of violence than those who are.  For the most part I agree that guns aren't the issue.  We should understand fully that as a species humans are exceedingly violent, have no real qualms about killing others individually or in large numbers, innocent bystanders, accepted collateral death, and so on.  it is our nature.  Sometimes we think it is justified, others it is a crime against humanity, but we don't want to put a stop to it.  That is us.

 

Umm I said around here (where I live and everyone carries). That said I agree with the rest that you have typed. 

26 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Firearm related injuries are the single leading cause of death in children/adolescents in the US. It's not rare unfortunately. 

Around here. Where I live. 

1 minute ago, greend said:

So, the solution isn't more gun control it's enforcing the laws which we now have i.e. nut cases can't legally buy or own guns. That said I guess you have no concern over drunk drivers until one of your kids get killed by one?

I would never drive drunk and despise people that do so. Unlike gun violence the States are in the same boat with the rest of the world when it comes to this.

But sure, I‘d like to see more action against DUIs too. Happy?

25 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

This is the problem. You literally cannot see past the end of your nose.

Why does no other country in the world have problems with guns like you? oh yeah because they control firearms in a sensible way.

 

The problem is you believe the hogwash that the left spews about taking away rights from people who are legally following all gun laws and are not violent.  That said "No other country in the world".............................really? 

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

I would never drive drunk and despise people that do so. Unlike gun violence the States are in the same boat with the rest of the world when it comes to this.

But sure, I‘d like to see more action against DUIs too. Happy?

Okay so let's go down that path. What would you do to prevent people from driving drunk? Take away strong liquor from people that don't drink and drive?  I mean there is no real need for strong liquor is there? 

5 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

In which country isn't there violence against others?  The tools may be different but it is there.  If it wasn't our nature we wouldn't need militaries, we wouldn't comprehend wars, but we not only comprehend, we value war.  It is celebrated.  Those in it venerated.  Those against us, whoever and wherever us is, are vilified.  

Even pacifists think we are better off without people like Hitler or Mao, or Stalin, and that's just the past 100 years and only a few of the terrible people.

Can there be pockets where it is not overt?  Of course, but it needs to be understood as pocket.  Wish it is was more but the evidence is what it is.

I‘m no pacifist and there sure is violence everywhere. There are mad people shooting up schools all over the world too even. But the frequency is so much higher in the US you have to ask yourself why. Because I refuse to believe that there‘s just more crazy people than anywhere else.

Enforce the laws we have now people! Include mental issues checks in the background checks that are done for every legal weapon that is purchased, that's fine. Taking away a freedom from folks that obey and try to follow the laws is not fine.

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

I‘m no pacifist and there sure is violence everywhere. There are mad people shooting up schools all over the world too even. But the frequency is so much higher in the US you have to ask yourself why. Because I refuse to believe that there‘s just more crazy people than anywhere else.

You may refuse to believe that but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

15 minutes ago, greend said:

Umm I said around here (where I live and everyone carries). That said I agree with the rest that you have typed. 

Around here. Where I live. 

Ok, so what's the difference between where you live and the rest of the country that makes it different? Because nationally it's a huge problem.

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