39 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

So based on what I’ve been told is the LIV is basically funded by Saudi which there’s a whole issue that supposedly it’s "blood money”. Whoever first place gets a $4 mil dollar purse whereas if you finish last it’s automatically 120k. So the purses and prize money is actually better in those 8 tournaments as compared to most PGA events. Mickelson and Dustin Johnson are able to still do majors due to exempt status (although US open said they’d let golfers do both) and do the LIV. 

that’s about as much as I’ve heard. There’s probably more too it then that. That’s just what I’ve consistently heard and seen. 

 

"Blood money"

Yet all these same corporations and sports leagues wont hesitate to drop to their knees to accomidate and appease China. 

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There's a huge difference between practicing with a coach and practicing on your own.  Practicing on your own often means that you are reinforcing the bad habits, because you can't watch yourself do it, and doing it wrong a bunch of times just makes it more ingrained.  On the flip side, getting that rep in front of your coach can lead to more fine tuning and a chance to get it fixed, so that the next 10 reps on your own are better than if that first rep wasn't with the coach and you just did it 11 times and each time you did it wrong.  

I'll add, fewer reps in practice for fringe players means that those players have fewer opportunities to stand out to their coaches and it hurts their ability to 'beat the odds' and make the roster.  Ultimately, UDFAs need a chance to really shine in front of their coaches, and practicing privately isn't going to afford them much opportunity to open their coaches' eyes.  

There are 24 hours in a day, and the goal should be to maximize efficiency within those hours.  Practicing 10 reps with a coach to correct and teach proper technique is better than 100 reps on your own when you are struggling to do it right.   There's not much in the way of instant feedback, or any feedback at all, about your success at changing the form or not.   Now, of course, they could go out and hire independent coaches to work with them in the offseason, but once again, that puts the fringe player at a disadvantage, because they don't have the resources of the higher profile players in terms of signing bonuses, etc.   

The lack of reps in OTAs, TC, etc. lowers the overall level of the game.   Reps are always important.

I mean a player can video their own workouts.  I think there's even a super swaggy Eagle that does his own workout vids.  I think it does put more emphasis on the player learning from the coach in their limited opportunity but why couldn't a player video themselves and send it to the coach for help. 

I understand it is less opportunity to stand out for a UDFA but it's not like there are less spots on the roster.  I don't think the relative number of opportunities prevents a player from proving their worth.  Sure one player might out shine another if they have 100 reps vs. 25 but I would imagine the roster construction would not change.  So I don't think UDFAs have less of a chance.  I think coaches know fairly early on the ranking for their position group.  I don't think it changes significantly.  

I think most fringe NFL players have similar resources albeit not equal.  Stoll made the 53 man roster last season as an UDFA.  Awosika made the practice squad.  I think that's pretty normal.  

I also think that you are missing the increased opportunity Sirianni is giving to players in pre-season games.  I think that time is much more valuable and a good game does much more to increase the likelihood a player makes it on an NFL roster. 

5 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

"Blood money"

Yet all these same corporations and sports leagues wont hesitate to drop to their knees to accomidate and appease China. 

The nba is the worst one that appeases to China. Hence the whole backlash that morey got when he tweeted what he did. It cost them money and that’s really what the biggest issue was. 

24 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Why is Russell Wilson the way he is?

Talk about social media content...go to the Broncos twitter feed and you'll see exactly how bad the Eagles are.

 

You want more "manufactured hoopla" from the Eagles players/twitter feed?  

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

You want more "manufactured hoopla" from the Eagles players/twitter feed?  

no, but they have plenty of highlights and images from practices.  

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

no, but they have plenty of highlights and images from practices.  

Probably because they actually practiced, where the Eagles just did a 50 min walk through.

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

no, but they have plenty of highlights and images from practices.  

Because they actually have a QB that can make highlight plays

17 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

"Blood money"

Yet all these same corporations and sports leagues wont hesitate to drop to their knees to accomidate and appease China. 

 

12 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

EVERYTHING is blood money

Please indulge us all!  

6 minutes ago, hputenis said:

 

Please indulge us all!  

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-22278037

I thought someone else "hated Muslims"

8 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Because they actually have a QB that can make highlight plays

As much as I'm not a Hurts guy to say he doesn't make highlight plays isn't exactly true

5 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

As much as I'm not a Hurts guy to say he doesn't make highlight plays isn't exactly true

Of course the NFL has it blocked, but it's Hurts highlights for 2021. Sometimes it's good to remember his highlights (most of them are runs)

6 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

"Bay Area” Bias.  You ever heard of MJ or Dr J?

I am a Sixers fan and Dr. J is my favorite player ever and was extraordinarily entertaining.  And of course, MJ was amazing and extraordinarily entertaining.  For sheer entertainment value though, nothing I have seen tops Curry smoking 25-35 footers at key points in the game - I find myself giggling uncontrollably at certain points almost every time I see Curry play.

Now if you want to argue that the 3 point rule cheapens the game by rewarding staying away from the basket rather than attacking it, I would not argue the point.  But you cannot take away under the 3 point rule what Curry brings from an entertainment value.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

The PGA should have some competition -- there are 125 players who keep their tour card and everyone else has to play a qualifying tournament to try to get one.  The distasteful part of what the players are doing is that it's a Saudi-backed and Saudi-funded enterprise.  Not to delve too much into a geo-political discussion, but Saudi Arabia is one of the worst characters in the world, that for some reason (money) the West treats as though they're an ally.

It doesn't help when their prince orders the murder and dismemberment of a journalist working in the US, and Greg Norman says "everyone makes mistakes".  Creates the optics that the dollar is the only important consideration.  I'm all for a rival professional golf tour -- it's just too bad where the money is coming from. 

Saudi is the devil.

56 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

There's a huge difference between practicing with a coach and practicing on your own.  Practicing on your own often means that you are reinforcing the bad habits, because you can't watch yourself do it, and doing it wrong a bunch of times just makes it more ingrained.  On the flip side, getting that rep in front of your coach can lead to more fine tuning and a chance to get it fixed, so that the next 10 reps on your own are better than if that first rep wasn't with the coach and you just did it 11 times and each time you did it wrong.  

I'll add, fewer reps in practice for fringe players means that those players have fewer opportunities to stand out to their coaches and it hurts their ability to 'beat the odds' and make the roster.  Ultimately, UDFAs need a chance to really shine in front of their coaches, and practicing privately isn't going to afford them much opportunity to open their coaches' eyes.  

There are 24 hours in a day, and the goal should be to maximize efficiency within those hours.  Practicing 10 reps with a coach to correct and teach proper technique is better than 100 reps on your own when you are struggling to do it right.   There's not much in the way of instant feedback, or any feedback at all, about your success at changing the form or not.   Now, of course, they could go out and hire independent coaches to work with them in the offseason, but once again, that puts the fringe player at a disadvantage, because they don't have the resources of the higher profile players in terms of signing bonuses, etc.   

The lack of reps in OTAs, TC, etc. lowers the overall level of the game.   Reps are always important.

Practicing on your own is glorified photo shoots around here.

16 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Saudi is the devil.

Globalism is great!*

*As long as you ignore what other countries are actually doing 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean a player can video their own workouts.  I think there's even a super swaggy Eagle that does his own workout vids.  I think it does put more emphasis on the player learning from the coach in their limited opportunity but why couldn't a player video themselves and send it to the coach for help. 

I understand it is less opportunity to stand out for a UDFA but it's not like there are less spots on the roster.  I don't think the relative number of opportunities prevents a player from proving their worth.  Sure one player might out shine another if they have 100 reps vs. 25 but I would imagine the roster construction would not change.  So I don't think UDFAs have less of a chance.  I think coaches know fairly early on the ranking for their position group.  I don't think it changes significantly.  

I think most fringe NFL players have similar resources albeit not equal.  Stoll made the 53 man roster last season as an UDFA.  Awosika made the practice squad.  I think that's pretty normal.  

I also think that you are missing the increased opportunity Sirianni is giving to players in pre-season games.  I think that time is much more valuable and a good game does much more to increase the likelihood a player makes it on an NFL roster. 

The new CBA limits those contact opportunities.  Not sure how much they can, and sending video after the fact is very different than instant feedback in the moment.

29 minutes ago, BayAreaLennie said:

I am a Sixers fan and Dr. J is my favorite player ever and was extraordinarily entertaining.  And of course, MJ was amazing and extraordinarily entertaining.  For sheer entertainment value though, nothing I have seen tops Curry smoking 25-35 footers at key points in the game - I find myself giggling uncontrollably at certain points almost every time I see Curry play.

Now if you want to argue that the 3 point rule cheapens the game by rewarding staying away from the basket rather than attacking it, I would not argue the point.  But you cannot take away under the 3 point rule what Curry brings from an entertainment value.

36 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Of course the NFL has it blocked

Its not blocked, you just have to watch in on youtube

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

And they still have a strong backing of people who think they deserve salaries equal to the NBA. 

There’s talks of league expansion too….

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Meh.  If you like that kind of thing, ok.  Me, I like motion, cutting, fast break, mid range jumpers, backdoor cuts, dunks dunks dunks etc….

You like to dink and dunk. 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You like to dink and dunk. 

No no, he likes backdoor action. 

14 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This is a crude interpretation of modern basketball

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

No no, he likes backdoor action. 

Watch out for monkeypox

Just now, dawkdaballhawk said:

Watch out for monkeypox

@4for4EaglesNest is patient zero

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

The PGA should have some competition -- there are 125 players who keep their tour card and everyone else has to play a qualifying tournament to try to get one.  The distasteful part of what the players are doing is that it's a Saudi-backed and Saudi-funded enterprise.  Not to delve too much into a geo-political discussion, but Saudi Arabia is one of the worst characters in the world, that for some reason (money) the West treats as though they're an ally.

It doesn't help when their prince orders the murder and dismemberment of a journalist working in the US, and Greg Norman says "everyone makes mistakes".  Creates the optics that the dollar is the only important consideration.  I'm all for a rival professional golf tour -- it's just too bad where the money is coming from. 

Both of the US’s major political parties having ties to the Saudis after 9/11, is just as gross as Greg Norman and what he called "mistakes”.  
 In Pro Wrestling, the wrestlers themselves are listed as "independent contractors” and the WWF/E has been successful in lawsuits in defining independent contractor to their benefit for years. IMO the PGA is sort of doing the same thing regardless of the rival tours financial backers.   
 Growing up in the 80’s and watching boxing, (great welter-middleweights) they had the IBF, WBC, and WBA as the major sanctioning bodies, although the boxers themselves didn’t directly work for those. I guess professional boxers are really the only, true independent contractors with the UFC functioning more like the WWE.   
 In short the PGA is saying even if Tiger Woods was offered close to a billion dollars to play in the LIV tour, and he did, the PGA would also suspend him or have his PGA card pulled as well, which IMO is crazy.