1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I like both of these tweets quite a bit. Brown and slay battle is my favorite thing about camp other than Davis and Edwards doing their thing

I like to tell my annual TC story, which is probably annoying to anyone who still remembers me say it every year.

I went to TC in 2005 and 2007. 

2005, I remember 2 things.  Rookies Ryan Moats and Trent Cole.  Moats was a fairly hyped draft pick (and did prove to be a very talented pure runner).  He was on the side field at Lehigh running routes and catching passes.  The ball was literally, comically clanking off his hands as if he had bricks instead of fingers.  Trent Cole was an unheralded 5th round pick with pretty unimpressive athletic numbers.  He was noticeably exploding off the line in drills in a way the other veterans just couldn't.  It was apparent the guy was difficult to block.  Came home to the EMB and the training camp reports from the media.  Multiple reports of how fluid Moats looked as a receiver out of the backfield and no mention of Trent Cole.

2007.  The summer of Jeremy Bloom.  Spadaro kept calling him the star of camp.  I went on one of the days in which he labeled such a standout performer.  He looked like a middle school football player that was invited onto the field to play during the breaks.  He was slow, had zero catch radius, no explosion, and got crushed any time someone breathed on him.  He looked like he didn't belong on the 90 man camp roster.  

For better and for worse, the narratives coming out of camp can be so fabricated, overlooked, air brushed, and everything in between.  

 

 

26 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don't complain much about how they go about camp.  When the apologists of the blog say "well, I'm going to trust the opinions of the professional coaches on how to run a camp over yours"...I don't have a great response to that.  I don't care how hard they hit or how they try to navigate that balance.

But I do have an issue with this.  When you have a 3rd year QB who doesn't know how to pass unless he's rolling right, you've got to experiment.  There's a time for tweaking and a time for treating it like game action.  Perhaps 50minutes of practice every day doesn't leave time for both.

I will trust the opinions of the professional coaches on how to run a camp over yours.  . 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I agree 100%.  He shouldn't be permitted to leave the pocket at all during TC.  AND, he should be getting reps during the PS.  Why?  So that he can then see if he's been able to apply the lessons of playing from within the pocket exclusively in TC to game situations, and not during carefully scripted scenarios which don't really mimic a true game.  Real games have chaos, unexpected outcomes, personnel issues getting on and off the field on time because they have to come from 30+ yards away, not from a large huddle 10 yards away from the offensive huddle.  There's a lot more value to the PS games than many would have you believe, especially about the ability for the coach to think on his feet, not sticking to the script... same for the players.  Games rarely ever go according to plan, learning how to adjust on the fly is essential.  Why give up that opportunity when there are so many limitations already imposed?

 

21 minutes ago, downundermike said:

This is an example of the opposite.  This is a lazy pitch and catch, and would get housed for a pick 6 in a real game.  He needs to put some steam on this pass and get it there, just like a real game.

Very true.  The WR had to slow down to wait for the ball.  How often have we said that?

Bucs are dropping like flies

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I will trust the opinions of the professional coaches on how to run a camp over yours.  . 

 

 

 

 

BTW, I agree 100%.  He shouldn't be permitted to leave the pocket at all during TC.  AND, he should be getting reps during the PS.  Why?  So that he can then see if he's been able to apply the lessons of playing from within the pocket exclusively in TC to game situations, and not during carefully scripted scenarios which don't really mimic a true game.  Real games have chaos, unexpected outcomes, personnel issues getting on and off the field on time because they have to come from 30+ yards away, not from a large huddle 10 yards away from the offensive huddle.  There's a lot more value to the PS games than many would have you believe, especially about the ability for the coach to think on his feet, not sticking to the script... same for the players.  Games rarely ever go according to plan, learning how to adjust on the fly is essential.  Why give up that opportunity when there are so many limitations already imposed?

#facts

14 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

He stopped calling an offense the inadequate quarterback couldn't sustain. Plenty of the league runs a similar offense that we abandoned 

And .... again .... it wasn't that the HC wasn't calling any running plays for the RBs -- it was the QB who kept pulling the ball out so that he could take off with it himself.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

And .... again .... it wasn't that the HC wasn't calling any running plays for the RBs -- it was the QB who kept pulling the ball out so that he could take off with it himself.

This is the key. The imbalance was largely caused by Hurts himself. 

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Bucs are dropping like flies

Was there an update to their injured centre? I don't recall seeing anything

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

And .... again .... it wasn't that the HC wasn't calling any running plays for the RBs -- it was the QB who kept pulling the ball out so that he could take off with it himself.

I've been preaching this all offseason 

 

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

This is the key. The imbalance was largely caused by Hurts himself. 

Was there an update to their injured centre? I don't recall seeing anything

Didn't specify but reports are he's going to miss significant time

 

26 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If my math is correct, @LeanMeanGM is the proud owner of post 1,000,000 with the following.  @VaBeach_Eagle, can you confirm that the post below is number 1 million.

I'll have to look into it and see if I can figure it out, but I can't at the moment. We're starting a new round of chemo with a new oncologist today after a 6 month layoff and I won't be back home for several hours. 

35 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

We crossed the 1,000,000 post threshold. Celebrate. 

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I'll have to look into it and see if I can figure it out, but I can't at the moment. We're starting a new round of chemo with a new oncologist today after a 6 month layoff and I won't be back home for several hours. 

Best of luck to you and your family 

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Would like to see Reagor have an Agholor type season 3. Not sold on Watkins as the #3. Glad there’s competition for that spot. 

32 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

He stopped calling an offense the inadequate quarterback couldn't sustain. Plenty of the league runs a similar offense that we abandoned 

 

No one else runs an offense like we were running in the first part of the season where RBs would only get 1-3 handoffs int he first half. 

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No one else runs an offense like we were running in the first part of the season where RBs would only get 1-3 handoffs int he first half. 

 

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

No one else runs an offense like we were running in the first part of the season where RBs would only get 1-3 handoffs int he first half. 

The QB was part of the problem with pulling the ball away. You seem to ignore the fact he runs an option 

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

How come you forgot to mention how many games each of them played?

 

Is that going to improve the accuracy, reduce the amount of interceptions Darnold threw, improve his YPA and QB rating?  Not a single area did Darnold come close to performing better. 

 

Or are you saying it's a benefit for Darnold that he yet again got injured like he has often in his career? 

Just now, Shalodeep said:

The QB was part of the problem with pulling the ball away. You seem to ignore the fact he runs an option 

 

That falls on the HC for calling options and not run plays.  It was piss poor coaching from Sirianni early in but to his credit he made the adjustments he had to make. 

9 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Would like to see Reagor have an Agholor type season 3. Not sold on Watkins as the #3. Glad there’s competition for that spot. 

I think Watkins is for real, but what are the odds your top 3 WRs all play 17 games? You need quality depth.