1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Bryant Young is the one that makes me just shake my head in wonderment.  He was a very good DT.  But, the HoF isn't supposed to be the Hall of Very Good.  

Yep, only had double digit sacks twice.

If Bryant Young is a hall of famer, Trent Cole should be a first ballot hall of famer.

 

 

22 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Not sure what point you are trying to make??? only a little over 2000 black freed slaves from the US made it to Liberia.

Many died of tropical disease once there or on the way there died.

The American Colonization society didn't want to immigrate freed slaves out of the US out of the goodness of their hearts they did so be cause they feared those freed slaves would try to free other slaves, they still viewed blacks as " subhuman" and thought they would be better off somewhere away from their more civilized society.

The abolitionist we're in opposition of the American Colonization society as well. 

Having said that again not sure what your point is unless you are trying to minimize US slavery by claiming that there was a small society that wanted them to go to Liberia after they were freed because they thought they as sub human didn't belong where they had been for generations..

 

Every freaking society in the world today has a history of some form of slavery in their past. STFU already. 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Branch is a no doubter.

Boselli and Mills, worthy for sure.

The rest, nothing really special.  

Boselli I think gets in like Terell Davis did 

Really good career cut short by Injuries but best at his position during his era when healthy.

Love Sam Mills was surprised he wasn't already in, his body of work even into his mid 30s is impressive 

Bryant Young I loved as a player but he belongs in the hall of really good as does Leroy Butler whose stats pale in comparison to say a HOF like Dawkins or reed.

Richard Seymour I think gets the championship treatment, if he had the exact same stats say for the jets I stead of the pays he probably doesn't get in, having said that he wouldn't then have his post season stats and in the list season he was pretty darn good, ask the 2004 eagles he totally wrecked that game and ended honeybuns eagle career.

Branch I dont know, never watched him don't know how his stats compare to his contemporaries, I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to him.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Bryant Young is the one that makes me just shake my head in wonderment.  He was a very good DT.  But, the HoF isn't supposed to be the Hall of Very Good.  

Maybe this will give Donovan hope?

1 minute ago, Diehardfan said:

Every freaking society in the world today has a history of some form of slavery in their past. STFU already. 

Doesn't minimize or justify slavery in the US.

 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Branch I dont know, never watched him don't know how his stats compare to his contemporaries, I'm a bit ignorant when it comes to him.

A world-class sprinter who set an NCAA championship meet record with a 10-second 100-meter dash out of Colorado … Fourth-round draft pick (98th overall) by the Oakland Raiders … 14-year NFL career, his career stats include 501 catches for 8,685 yards and 67 touchdowns in 182 regular-season games … Branch helped lead the team to three Super Bowl appearances – XI, XV and XVIII – with a victory in each … Led the NFL with 1,092 receiving yards and 13 touchdowns in 1974 … In 22 playoff games, he caught 73 passes for 1,289 yards (17.7 average) – both NFL records at the time of his retirement … Branch received first-team All-Pro nods three times (1974-76) and was voted to four Pro Bowls (1975-77, 1978). 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

A world-class sprinter who set an NCAA championship meet record with a 10-second 100-meter dash out of Colorado … Fourth-round draft pick (98th overall) by the Oakland Raiders … 14-year NFL career, his career stats include 501 catches for 8,685 yards and 67 touchdowns in 182 regular-season games … Branch helped lead the team to three Super Bowl appearances – XI, XV and XVIII – with a victory in each … Led the NFL with 1,092 receiving yards and 13 touchdowns in 1974 … In 22 playoff games, he caught 73 passes for 1,289 yards (17.7 average) – both NFL records at the time of his retirement … Branch received first-team All-Pro nods three times (1974-76) and was voted to four Pro Bowls (1975-77, 1978). 

Seems like he should have been in a long time ago, maybe he was  collateral damage in the leagues hate of Al Davis and the raiders🤷‍♂️

4 minutes ago, eglz1 said:

Maybe this will give Donovan hope?

He shouldn't sniff the HoF.

Some random thoughts from listening to some of the beat guys discuss the last day or two:

Jordan Davis and AJ Brown dominant.

James Bradberry has been one of the most impressive at camp.

TJ Edwards continues to shine.

Depth DTs really impressing, might be one of the areas the Eagles get picked clean when trying to stash guys on the PS.

Reid Sinnett looks decent and is way ahead of Strong.

Marcus Epps looks like he's taken his game to the next level and is the best S on the Eagles roster so far by a considerable margin.

Devon Allen doesn't look like he belongs.

Zech Mcphearson has been poor.

Reed Blankenship one of the bigger surprises, has impressed.

Conflicting reports on Covey. Some say he looks good, some say he's struggled.

7 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Doesn't minimize or justify slavery in the US.

 

This isn’t snark but has any other country sacrificed their own men to fight slavery like the United States has?  Yes, slavery was here but it was also ended here.  

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Some random thoughts from listening to some of the beat guys discuss the last day or two:

Jordan Davis and AJ Brown dominant.

James Bradberry has been one of the most impressive at camp.

TJ Edwards continues to shine.

Depth DTs really impressing, might be one of the areas the Eagles get picked clean when trying to stash guys on the PS.

Reid Sinnett looks decent and is way ahead of Strong.

Marcus Epps looks like he's taken his game to the next level and is the best S on the Eagles roster so far by a considerable margin.

Devon Allen doesn't look like he belongs.

Zech Mcphearson has been poor.

Reed Blankenship one of the bigger surprises, has impressed.

Conflicting reports on Covey. Some say he looks good, some say he's struggled.

I’ve read some reports of McPhearson looking good while others say poor.  Who knows?   Same with Covey.  I wish they had a young safety to pair with Epps. 

15 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Doesn't minimize or justify slavery in the US.

 

Depends in what context. When the nation was founded, slavery was universal, and the choice was two nations, not a nation without slavery. So they made a distasteful compromise, b/c the alternative was to invite European nations to divide and conquer. They had the Spanish in Florida, the British in Canada, the French in Louisiana. At that time, Ottomans enslaved Europeans, Europeans enslaved Turks and Arabs, Arabs enslaved Africans, and so on. Slavery was the "norm," abolition still in the future (see the dates for the abolition of slavery, the British ended the slave trade in 1807 but didn't abolish slavery until 1833, for example). Judging the actions of 1787 by the standards of two generations later is misguided, much less by 21 century mores.

Nor was the economy build on slavery, cotton didn't take off until the 19th century, and primarily supplied the English textile mills. If there had never  been slavery, history would have been different, but only in the sense of less division. The South would have had more immigration, yeoman farmers and sharecroppers would have replaced slaves, cotton still would have been grown and Westward expansion continued, though maybe at a slower pace through the deep South. The Northern merchants would have still had markets for food and shipping supplies, and so on. Slavery was never essential, it was more a matter of path dependence, once established it discouraged European immigrants b/c slave owners monopolized the best land and they didn't want to compete with slaves on the labor market.

The Atlantic slave trade was primarily with the Caribbean, NA was an afterthought. But take slavery out of the Caribbean, no sugar cane plantations, then beet sugar has a much bigger market and the southern colonies have another money crop.

21 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Every freaking society in the world today has a history of some form of slavery in their past. STFU already. 

Not just in the past. Slavery is alive and well in 2022. The activists would probably go to those areas but they may not have good wireless there so they can't go.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Wrong!!!! 

Make the case, I'm willing to consider it.

44 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

 

Easily 110 degrees with the heat index. 

24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Yes, we must bring up both. Glad someone remembered the liberal talking points. 

I just want to make sure that in the land of free expression we are only getting rid of the right people. 

40 minutes ago, blindside said:

I just saw a video of Nick Sagan talking about benching Hurts for Tua. Brutal verbiage. 

Cosmos is a great book. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

What would they have rather done, practice when it’s 65 degrees?  It’s not like it was a really long or intense practice today.  You can’t have it both ways.  

 After the Atlanta game last season I thought Siriani must have his act together and he knows what he’s doing. Now, I’m just happy Lurie didn’t hire Arthur Smith and that Nick is just the tallest midget out of last years coaching hires.  No minicamp, 6 out of 10 OTA’s, no wonder why they’re drafting Alabama players, they need finished talent because developing it isn’t gonna happen on Siriani’s watch.  

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

The Ravens to this point appear tied to Lamar, but he may save them with his own greed.

RGIII (who has been close to Jackson) says the reason Lamar hasn't negotiated a long-term extension yet is because he wants to wait as long as possible while the price goes up through other QB extensions.  Sounds like a fine strategy, unless he suffers another injury this season where he misses significant time.  If he doesn't care where he signs his extension (gets traded, etc.) then it's minimal risk.  If he wants to remain in BAL it's much more risky.  Another season cut short by injury might persuade the Ravens to walk away and take another QB in the draft.

 To bad Twitter and other social media sites don’t know it’s Lamar holding up the Ravens, they believe Baltimore has ulterior motives and refuse to offer Jackson a contract, or that it should of been done already. 
 
 Do you or anyone else remember if the NFLPA came down on Brady for taking less money in New England for a couple years?  

3 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 After the Atlanta game last season I thought Siriani must have his act together and he knows what he’s doing. Now, I’m just happy Lurie didn’t hire Arthur Smith and that Nick is just the tallest midget out of last years coaching hires.  No minicamp, 6 out of 10 OTA’s, no wonder why they’re drafting Alabama players, they need finished players because developing it isn’t gonna happen on Siriani’s watch.  

 To bad Twitter and other social media sites don’t know it’s Lamar holding up the Ravens, they believe Baltimore has ulterior motives and refuse to offer Jackson a contract, or that it should of been done already. 
 
 Do you or anyone else remember if the NFLPA came down on Brady for taking less money in New England for a couple years?  

To my knowledge the unions in most major pro sports will exert pressure on players not to sign a contract under market value.  The current salary increases at QB and WR demonstrates the effectiveness of that position.  To be fair, MLB has a history of collusion by the owners, so the union stance isn't entirely one-sided.

As far as Brady, my suspicion has always been that Kraft paid him under the table to his B.S. TB12 foundation and the NFL has let them get away with doing it.  I don't think Brady was ever actually underpaid -- regardless of how much his wife made.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

To my knowledge the unions in most major pro sports will exert pressure on players not to sign a contract under market value.  The current salary increases at QB and WR demonstrates the effectiveness of that position.  To be fair, MLB has a history of collusion by the owners, so the union stance isn't entirely one-sided.

As far as Brady, my suspicion has always been that Kraft paid him under the table to his B.S. TB12 foundation and the NFL has let them get away with doing it.  I don't think Brady was ever actually underpaid -- regardless of how much his wife made.

 I’ve always thought teams did that, Cowboys being one of the main culprits and now probably the Dolphins, but the only one I can remember getting caught was Joe Smith years ago with Minny I believe. 

41 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I’ve read some reports of McPhearson looking good while others say poor.  Who knows?   Same with Covey.  I wish they had a young safety to pair with Epps. 

Every time he’s been mentioned it was because he was getting beat but I don’t know that it means he is doing poorly.  

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Weak and desperate

I haven’t been trying very hard today. 

Breaking news: Lombardi is still an idiot

 

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Breaking news: Lombardi is still an idiot

 

 

People are still really crying about that?  What makes that any worse Eagles resting starters in week 18 last year?  It's bad if a losing team that has nothing to play for doesn't go all out to win a game but it's more than okay for a good team that people might actually want to watch rest it's starters and treat it like a preseason game?  Mike Lombardi is a clown.  

48 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This isn’t snark but has any other country sacrificed their own men to fight slavery like the United States has?  Yes, slavery was here but it was also ended here.  

Or one could say that The US was the only country that sacrificed their own in an attempt to keep slavery...

On 8/3/2022 at 5:10 PM, HazletonEagle said:

Question on Ductless heat pump/AC systems. 

Bryant vs Daikin

Anyone work in the field installing these things? Anyone have these brands in their home?

My main want is heating the house in the winter so Id like to know which is more efficient in the super cold. 

But Im also wondering if there is a difference in reliability/longevity, maintenance cost, etc.

@Agent23 I think you may work in commercial systems, but maybe you have some insight?

Sorry for the delay, haven’t logged in for 2-3 days. I work for a different segment of Daikin that is on the commercial applied side (ducted systems — AHUs RTUs — and other equipment like chillers, fan coils, WSHPs), so I have only had limited exposure to their VRV products and their capabilities/limitations. Hoping to visit their Houston facility in late October for a training event but we’ll see what happens. 

I think their heat pump condensing units operate down to like -4° Outside air temp, but I wouldn’t quote me on that. We incorporate their tech into our equipment as custom-built orders, but the only limits I deal with is the entering air temp limits for refrigerant hearing, for the indoor unit(s) coils, which is 50°. You won’t be feeding outside air through any of your indoor console units, so that 50° entering air temp would be irrelevant and the biggest thing would be how low of an OAT the condensing unit will run at if you’re planning on using the VRV system for your primary (or only?) hearing source in your home.