1 hour ago, jsb235 said:

4,800 yards, or 282 yards per game. Hurts had 262 yards a game last year. Not sure why you think him reaching that is impossible, but let's revisit this in a few months. 

How about 195 yards after 3 quarters? Take the garbage time yards out of it and count the yards that likely influence the outcome of the game?

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

should of clarified when I said legs. I meant legit "running qb's". Lamar, Hurts, Vick, Etc. 

Josh Allen is a better runner than Hurts, while also being an actual QB.

 

4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Tom Brady led the league in TD's had over 5000 yards and he didnt win the MVP. 

 

 

Who was the MVP, and were they the #1 seed in the playoffs ??

17 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Let's make it real, then. If Hurts is healthy, he will generate 270 yards of total offense week one. He does that, you are banned. He doesn't, I am banned. Let's not make it a season bet, let's make it week one. On the road. Feel lucky, punk? 

Even better, how about both of you take a .45 and park it in your brainpan no matter what the outcome is? 

6 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Even better, how about both of you take a .45 and park it in your brainpan no matter what the outcome is? 

https://forums.colts.com/profile/36256-deathbyeagle/

Your body of work on the Colts forum is a thing of beauty. 

18 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

Breaking news: Lombardi is still an idiot

 

Do the Eagles also get docked for the last game of 2021, where they sat their starters in a meaningless game for the Eagles to afford playing opportunities to the back ups, Mike?  How about other teams that have sat starters with the playoffs clinched?  Lombardi is an idiot.

35 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Is anyone going to the Open Practice this Sunday?

 

 

Follow up question, will you storm the field and drop into coverage during team drills?

No and Yes

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Josh Allen is a better runner than Hurts, while also being an actual QB.

 

 Allen ran 122 times last season?   Sheesh, he’s gonna have a short career as a top QB if he keeps that up.  Carolina thought Cam (who isn’t 1/2 the QB Allen is) could run forever because he’s a big dude, but all those hits add up.  
 

6 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Wanting people to kill themselves. NICE

 

1 minute ago, The Blackfish said:

 Allen ran 122 times last season?   Sheesh, he’s gonna have a short career as a top QB if he keeps that up.  Carolina thought Cam (who isn’t 1/2 the QB Allen is) could run forever because he’s a big dude, but all those hits add up.  
 

Yeah he's gonna have to reduce that number I'd say to increase his longevity. Otherwise, he'll burn fast and bright, but could crash and burn just as fast. 

2 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Allen ran 122 times last season?   Sheesh, he’s gonna have a short career as a top QB if he keeps that up.  Carolina thought Cam (who isn’t 1/2 the QB Allen is) could run forever because he’s a big dude, but all those hits add up.  
 

I watched a lot of Bills as I had Stefon Diggs in fantasy, and, Josh Allen is fun to watch.

He is very good at not taking a lot of hits.

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Josh Allen is a better runner than Hurts, while also being an actual QB.

 

You realize that those passing stats are pretty comparable? Allen in his 4th season as starter and Hurts in his first?

Hurts was actually throwing downfield a little more, look at the yards per attempt and net yards per attempt, even with a slightly lower completion rate.

Hurts was 9th in yards in air per completion, Allen was 7th, Hurts was 4th in yards per target, Allen 8th.

I think this reflects mobility more than arm strength, that being able to extend plays opens up deep targets and buys time to hit them.

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Do the Eagles also get docked for the last game of 2021, where they sat their starters in a meaningless game for the Eagles to afford playing opportunities to the back ups, Mike?  How about other teams that have sat starters with the playoffs clinched?  Lombardi is an idiot.

 Doug went neck deep on Lombardi’s, mom, daughter, or wife, that can be the only explanation for his hate. 

Besides 1,300 more yards and 20 more TD's, Hurts is basically Josh Allen!!

12 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

https://forums.colts.com/profile/36256-deathbyeagle/

Your body of work on the Colts forum is a thing of beauty. 

yes, i was following up on the Wentz talk after the trade, and to be honest, look at the QB stats. Wentz tech had a better passing (QB) stats season then Hurts. Not to mention Wentz had a much harder schedule. More TDs, less picks, more yards, better comp rating, better QB rating and he actually beat teams with winning records that went to the playoffs though out the season. 

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You realize that those passing stats are pretty comparable? Allen in his 4th season as starter and Hurts in his first?

Hurts was actually throwing downfield a little more, look at the yards per attempt and net yards per attempt, even with a slightly lower completion rate.

Hurts was 9th in yards in air per completion, Allen was 7th, Hurts was 4th in yards per target, Allen 8th.

I think this reflects mobility more than arm strength, that being able to extend plays opens up deep targets and buys time to hit them.

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Besides 1,300 more yards and 20 more TD's, Hurts is basically Josh Allen!!

 

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

You realize that those passing stats are pretty comparable? Allen in his 4th season as starter and Hurts in his first?

Hurts was actually throwing downfield a little more, look at the yards per attempt and net yards per attempt, even with a slightly lower completion rate.

Hurts was 9th in yards in air per completion, Allen was 7th, Hurts was 4th in yards per target, Allen 8th.

I think this reflects mobility more than arm strength, that being able to extend plays opens up deep targets and buys time to hit them.

Yeah, totally the same, except

1300 more passing yards, 20 more passing TD's.

In regards to AY per completion, that is a number the regresses the more you pass, kind of like a guy hitting 3 home runs on opening day, so he is on pace to hit 486 home runs.

Hurts AYA per attempt and completion, completion percentage will all regress with 200 more attempts.

If Hurts throws over 4500 yards the Eagles WON'T make the playoffs.

That's because they have the best running game in the NFL behind a great OL.

So if Hurts is slinging the ball that much, it means the defense has collapsed and they're playing from behind on a regular basis.

250 yards per game passing, 150 yards rushing would make them a top offensive team, and that is only 4250 passing yards.

Only two teams averaged 400+ yards per game last season, Dallas and TB.

Raw numbers are meaningless. The question is, will they have a passing attack that can be effective against top level defenses, and can they outscore other top level passing attacks when it matters?

You aren't going to win a Super Bowl in the modern NFL unless you can throw the ball and throw it well.

For Heaven's sake stop with the Allen/Hurts comparison, it's not even remotely plausible.

Can Hurts improve? Yes. Can be become a Prescott level player? Maybe. Can he ever become Josh Allen? NO - he doesn't the superhero level talent that Allen has.

There's a reason Anthony Richardson is shooting up everybody's early draft boards, it's because he does have that Allen level raw talent.

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I watched a lot of Bills as I had Stefon Diggs in fantasy, and, Josh Allen is fun to watch.

He is very good at not taking a lot of hits.

  He’s a truck out there I get that but as we saw with Wentz, it only takes one good shot, Luck was a big guy as well, albeit a different body type but we saw what happened with him.  
 Pocket QB’s get the benefit of the doubt in terms of roughing the passer penalties and not just Brady.  Refs don’t call roughing as much on running QB’s, especially the big guys when they get hit in the pocket. 

Fixed your image @downundermike

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

For Heaven's sake stop with the Allen/Hurts comparison, it's not even remotely plausible.

Can Hurts improve? Yes. Can be become a Prescott level player? Maybe. Can he ever become Josh Allen? NO - he doesn't the superhero level talent that Allen has.

There's a reason Anthony Richardson is shooting up everybody's early draft boards, it's because he does have that Allen level raw talent.

Draft boards mean nada at this point. Do you know how much those change weekly, not to mention daily once we get in the last 2 weeks till the draft? Its a waste of time even thinking about writers draft boards at this stage. 

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

For Heaven's sake stop with the Allen/Hurts Richardson comparison, it's not even remotely plausible

There you go.

Good to know all QBs become Josh Allen once they get to their 4th year. We're almost there with Jalen!