10 hours ago, mattwill said:

You misread his post. There was plenty of value there ... and a sincere sharing of props.

Thanks for recognizing, Matt.

Always enjoy @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! posts, he does his research.

...as for that texas dude...who the hell is that?

5 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Kempski and BLG say Gainwell is having a terrible camp.

Across the board, it's been meh or negative.

Disappointing.

10 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

college football kinda does. most of the major schools play a bunch of D3 schools for at least the first 3 weeks.

Nowhere near all. Notre Dame's opener is at Ohio State. Oregon is at Georgia. Yes, there are plenty of cupcakes, too.

57 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

About as much as you just added.

I’m comin at you ferret face

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Nowhere near all. Notre Dame's opener is at Ohio State. Oregon is at Georgia. Yes, there are plenty of cupcakes, too.

that's a cupcake for Ohio State😆

Got a football scrimmage between to horrible high school teams out in the middle of nowhere today. 

I bet there will be 2-3 QBs better than Hurts here.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Got a football scrimmage between to horrible high school teams out in the middle of nowhere today. 

I bet there will be 2-3 QBs better than Hurts here.

"To” ? 
 

haha you’re dumb 

6 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Kempski and BLG say Gainwell is having a terrible camp.

I would characterize their view as 'disappointing', not so much 'terrible'.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

"To” ? 
 

haha you’re dumb 

dumb? you wanna see dumb, go look in the toilet after a poop, the reflection is dumb

1 hour ago, olsilverhair said:

I’m comin at you ferret face

Shakin in me boots.

Never seen a post from you that contains the word Eagles...

Why are you even here except to exchange insults?

There's a special forum for that.

26 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

dumb? you wanna see dumb, go look in the toilet after a poop, the reflection is dumb

That literally makes no sense. But glad to see your old lady hasn’t offed you yet 

3 hours ago, Doc S. said:

Thanks for recognizing, Matt.

Always enjoy @e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! posts, he does his research.

...as for that texas dude...who the hell is that?

Wasn’t sure if there was sarcasm in your original one post why i said ignore the gif if it wasn’t. Hard to tell on here at times. 

my point in all that wasn’t to defend Wentz. Cause I don’t think he played well throughout last year either. were moment in time where he did and then there was moments where he was just awful. But the colts were a mess heading into the season. Fisher wasn’t the LT til week 3. Davenport was a complete disaster for them at LT and when he started. They lost Nelson in the first couple weeks of training camp because of his foot surgery and he was not himself at the start of the season. I believe that another starter along the oline got hurt during the training camp as well (either RG or RT… it might have been Kelley now that i think of jt). That team was a mess going into the season last year and Carson wentz was super inconsistent with his play at QB.

Why i said in my original post two things can be true. Because both were. 

2 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I would characterize their view as 'disappointing', not so much 'terrible'.

Terrible was my choice of words, but I believe they gave him more "LVP’s” of anyone on the roster so far. I think so far in camp they’ve given him 4 LVP of the day’s of camp so far. That’s more than Jalen Reagor.

Categorize that how you want. The point is, he hasn’t been good.

4 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

Never thought he was that good to begin with really. He's a pass catching 5th round pick. That's pretty disappointing if he regressed as a pass catcher though. Howie can't play games with the position. You have an unreliable Sanders, a 5th round pass catcher only who's possibly regressed at his greatest trait, a 5" 6" try hard guy and that's about it. Go get someone pretty good and not another Brooks or Torrey. 

Corey Clement just got cut by Baltimore...

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Wasn’t sure if there was sarcasm in your original one post why i said ignore the gif if it wasn’t. Hard to tell on here at times. 

my point in all that wasn’t to defend Wentz. Cause I don’t think he played well throughout last year either. were moment in time where he did and then there was moments where he was just awful. But the colts were a mess heading into the season. Fisher wasn’t the LT til week 3. Davenport was a complete disaster for them at LT and when he started. They lost Nelson in the first couple weeks of training camp because of his foot surgery and he was not himself at the start of the season. I believe that another starter along the oline got hurt during the training camp as well (either RG or RT… it might have been Kelley now that i think of jt). That team was a mess going into the season last year and Carson wentz was super inconsistent with his play at QB.

Why i said in my original post two things can be true. Because both were. 

Spot on. Wentz was having issues, no doubt, but the complete collapse of the O Line was his death knell.

I don't think anyone succeeds behind that makeshift group.

When we were playing our 13th O Line configuration in 10 games we had issues too.

Still think Carson can compete. Hope Ron can provide the tools.

Always liked Wentz, person, player.

20 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

Spot on. Wentz was having issues, no doubt, but the complete collapse of the O Line was his death knell.

I don't think anyone succeeds behind that makeshift group.

When we were playing our 13th O Line configuration in 10 games we had issues too.

Still think Carson can compete. Hope Ron can provide the tools.

Always liked Wentz, person, player.

Carson had a better stats season then Hurts last year with a tougher sch on top of that. Imagine if he had some preseason time with the Colts last year. I still think he is better then Hurts but in the end it wont matter since neither will be our starting QB in the future. 

22 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Corey Clement just got cut by Baltimore...

He's been cooked for a while. 

8 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

Still think Carson can compete. Hope Ron can provide the tools.

Always liked Wentz, person, player

I’m less optimistic on Wentz right now than I was last year teaming up with Frank Reich.  I thought he would return to being a top 10-12 NFL QB in IND; last year I rated him about #18 in overall QB play.  I rated Hurts #22 overall, btw.  The tough part about his falling out with Irsay is I think there was room for Wentz to grow with the Colts — he played FAR better than he did in 2020 and I think Reich was on his way to rebuilding him as a QB.  I really believe the Colts will be surprised how little Matt Ryan has left.  Another mis-step for them IMO.

In WASH he’s going to an organization with dysfunction (even more than the Colts), a weaker OL, and defensive coaches Rivera and Del Rio running the show there.  He does have really good talent at the offensive skill positions with McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, Logan Thomas, Curtis Samuel, with Gibson, McIssic, and Brian Robinson at RB.  Other than Taylor, the Colts are starved of talent on offense, so that could be a big upgrade.

His success will depend on if Scott Turner and Ken Zampese can get him to take the easy throws and be more patient, take fewer chances trying to extend plays that aren’t there 

8 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Kempski and BLG say Gainwell is having a terrible camp.

He was not that great last year either. Hes not a true vision runner. Hes a slot receiver in the end, not a RB. 

7 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Obviously I do.  Hurts needs reps and they need to stop treating him like he's a 10 year vet.  He's not.  He has a lot to learn still and every rep is valuable.

But playing Hurts means you play the other starters on offense.  They don’t need the reps.

4 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

Never thought he was that good to begin with really. He's a pass catching 5th round pick. That's pretty disappointing if he regressed as a pass catcher though. Howie can't play games with the position. You have an unreliable Sanders, a 5th round pass catcher only who's possibly regressed at his greatest trait, a 5" 6" try hard guy and that's about it. Go get someone pretty good and not another Brooks or Torrey. 

Wait for the final cut downs.  That’s when surpluses are traded.  

17 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I mentioned safety over Hunt earlier

 

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’m less optimistic on Wentz right now than I was last year teaming up with Frank Reich.  I thought he would return to being a top 10-12 NFL QB in IND; last year I rated him about #18 in overall QB play.  I rated Hurts #22 overall, btw.  The tough part about his falling out with Irsay is I think there was room for Wentz to grow with the Colts — he played FAR better than he did in 2020 and I think Reich was on his way to rebuilding him as a QB.  I really believe the Colts will be surprised how little Matt Ryan has left.  Another mis-step for them IMO.

In WASH he’s going to an organization with dysfunction (even more than the Colts), a weaker OL, and defensive coaches Rivera and Del Rio running the show there.  He does have really good talent at the offensive skill positions with McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, Logan Thomas, Curtis Samuel, with Gibson, McIssic, and Brian Robinson at RB.  Other than Taylor, the Colts are starved of talent on offense, so that could be a big upgrade.

His success will depend on if Scott Turner and Ken Zampese can get him to take the easy throws and be more patient, take fewer chances trying to extend plays that aren’t there 

I thought Reich might rescue him too. Guess he didn't have enough pieces around him, who knows.

We see him twice, if he stays healthy and we should know how to defend against him. Lotsa tape.

I guess trading reagor would be addition by subtraction, but it's not like a team is going to give us a good safety in return. It's going to be a bottom of the roster guy

I would take Kareem Hunt for free , if they’re interested