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1 minute ago, downundermike said:

 

Not sure Frank has had success calling plays though.  He didn't in Philly.  I believe he did in Indy.  

Nick Sirianni talks to Frank Reich once a week and still brings him up in press conferences. Guarantee you he'll at least offer him a consulting gig for this season. Doesn't mean Reich will take it.

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

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12 minutes ago, RLC said:

Welcome to the Eagles, Frank.

Meh. Maybe if he wants to be a consultant. We have a young, promising coaching staff that deserves to be developed. Make Brian Johnson OC if Shane leaves. 

4 minutes ago, EagleJoe8 said:

Never wanted him anyway. 

Neither did I.  There were a couple on here who did but not sure why.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Make Brian Johnson OC if Shane leaves. 

Irsay making Irsay moves

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Didn't even let him finish the year. Colts did Reich so dirty. 

Reich made that bed.  He brought Wentz in and then allowed him to be the scape goat.  He brought in Matt Ryan and allowed him to be the scape goat.

He could have had some principle and stood up for the players when it mattered.  But when  he didn't, he put himself on this path where there was no one else to blame.  

If he's afraid to stand up for his staff and hand-picked players, hes a coward.  Especially considering its a pill head like Irsay

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

Caplan/Mosher speculating that Sanders may get 10M+/Y in free agency. If so, I wish Miles the best in the future and will appreciate his last season here.

 I am sure that Sirianni is going to pressure Howie to re-sign him.  I can't imagine that he's worth that kind of money. He's had a better season this year but I don't think he's a top 10 RB. It seems like a $10 million average would put him in that category.   The counter-point is that he is still young.  He hasn't been worn out by too many touches.  He is productive and can be an explosive runner.  There are a lot of teams without an RB as good as Sanders.   I think it's a mistake to assume a replacement level player would get his production.  It would probably require the investment of a top 100 pick in the draft. Howie has drafted RBs with 2nd round picks more than once.  I don't know whether investing a top 100 pick in a RB vs. other position makes sense given the relative cost of keeping a top 10 player at the position.  

I think this draft doesn't have a lot of top tier OT prospects but there are several that are projected as Rounds 1-3.  Let's say a top 100 pick  falls to the 3rd round.  He would have a much greater potential value at a more expensive position than a RB.  It's not like the only thing to consider is the cost of Sanders relative to the market for RBs.  It's also the replacement cost for him vs. the ability to add at other positions. 

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Reich made that bed.  He brought Wentz in and then allowed him to be the scape goat.  He brought in Matt Ryan and allowed him to be the scape goat.

He could have had some principle and stood up for the players when it mattered.  But when  he didn't, he put himself on this path where there was no one else to blame.  

If he's afraid to stand up for his staff and hand-picked players, hes a coward.  Especially considering its a pill head like Irsay

Irsay and Ballard have a lot more blame for their current team than Reich does. 

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Meh. Maybe if he wants to be a consultant. We have a young, promising coaching staff that deserves to be developed. Make Brian Johnson OC if Shane leaves. 

Best case scenario.  Make Brian Johnson the OC, Eagles continue upward swing and terrific success on offense.  Johnson gets a HC job, Eagles get draft picks! 

42 minutes ago, RLC said:

Caplan/Mosher speculating that Sanders may get 10M+/Y in free agency. If so, I wish Miles the best in the future and will appreciate his last season here.

Not really sure about that.  It's a deep FA class.

Also, not that difficult to find a really good RB on day 2 of the draft. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 I am sure that Sirianni is going to pressure Howie to re-sign him.  I can't imagine that he's worth that kind of money. He's had a better season this year but I don't think he's a top 10 RB. It seems like a $10 million average would put him in that category.   The counter-point is that he is still young.  He hasn't been worn out by too many touches.  He is productive and can be an explosive runner.  There are a lot of teams without an RB as good as Sanders.   I think it's a mistake to assume a replacement level player would get his production.  It would probably require the investment of a top 100 pick in the draft. Howie has drafted RBs with 2nd round picks more than once.  I don't know whether investing a top 100 pick in a RB vs. other position makes sense given the relative cost of keeping a top 10 player at the position.  

I think this draft doesn't have a lot of top tier OT prospects but there are several that are projected as Rounds 1-3.  Let's say a top 100 pick  falls to the 3rd round.  He would have a much greater potential value at a more expensive position than a RB.  It's not like the only thing to consider is the cost of Sanders relative to the market for RBs.  It's also the replacement cost for him vs. the ability to add at other positions. 

Who does everyone like in the upcoming draft at RB besides Bijan.  Corum is impressive but wonder about his size.  Israel Abinikada looks like ideal height weight similar as Sanders and is having a monster season.  Charbonnet would be cool with me also

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 I am sure that Sirianni is going to pressure Howie to re-sign him.  I can't imagine that he's worth that kind of money. He's had a better season this year but I don't think he's a top 10 RB. It seems like a $10 million average would put him in that category.   The counter-point is that he is still young.  He hasn't been worn out by too many touches.  He is productive and can be an explosive runner.  There are a lot of teams without an RB as good as Sanders.   I think it's a mistake to assume a replacement level player would get his production.  It would probably require the investment of a top 100 pick in the draft. Howie has drafted RBs with 2nd round picks more than once.  I don't know whether investing a top 100 pick in a RB vs. other position makes sense given the relative cost of keeping a top 10 player at the position.  

I think this draft doesn't have a lot of top tier OT prospects but there are several that are projected as Rounds 1-3.  Let's say a top 100 pick  falls to the 3rd round.  He would have a much greater potential value at a more expensive position than a RB.  It's not like the only thing to consider is the cost of Sanders relative to the market for RBs.  It's also the replacement cost for him vs. the ability to add at other positions. 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

 I am sure that Sirianni is going to pressure Howie to re-sign him.  I can't imagine that he's worth that kind of money. He's had a better season this year but I don't think he's a top 10 RB. It seems like a $10 million average would put him in that category.   The counter-point is that he is still young.  He hasn't been worn out by too many touches.  He is productive and can be an explosive runner.  There are a lot of teams without an RB as good as Sanders.   I think it's a mistake to assume a replacement level player would get his production.  It would probably require the investment of a top 100 pick in the draft. Howie has drafted RBs with 2nd round picks more than once.  I don't know whether investing a top 100 pick in a RB vs. other position makes sense given the relative cost of keeping a top 10 player at the position.  

I think this draft doesn't have a lot of top tier OT prospects but there are several that are projected as Rounds 1-3.  Let's say a top 100 pick  falls to the 3rd round.  He would have a much greater potential value at a more expensive position than a RB.  It's not like the only thing to consider is the cost of Sanders relative to the market for RBs.  It's also the replacement cost for him vs. the ability to add at other positions. 

The amount of starting quality RBs that are going to be FAs this year is going to make it a hard pitch to sign Sanders to that much money. I would rather draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round and sign one of those FA RBs who dont sign early in the FA period to a cheaper contract.

20 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

That franchise used to have a luster to it.  Peyton, then Luck.  Now it's an afterthought.

Luck's out of the blue retirement didn't just screw that franchise, it fisted them.

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

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Fireworks and an ATV have almost done as much damage to that team as Gettleman.

The only problem with looking for a RB in the draft is that we now only have 1 mid round pick with our 3rd. Obviously subject to change but we'll need to be adding young players to more critical positions with our top picks.

17 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Any of those teams, including NYG and Seahawks, I'd be nervous about playing in the playoffs. 

I know it gets said every year but this year it's more true than ever.......anyone can be beat.  Wouldn't shock me if KC or Buffalo gets knocked out of the playoffs before the AFCCG.

Yup, Seahawks play smart football, control the clock don't turn it over.

The giants I don't know, I think they'll come back down to earth.

It's great when the East is the best division a d those late year division games are super competitive.

KC seems like a typical Reid team with mahomes needing to throw the ball 60 times a game. I don't think thats sustainable, at some point  one needs to be able to run the ball and they don't make enough big plays in the passing game to scare anyone either.

The AFC is weird, you have the Titans who cant pass but can run, the chiefs who can pass but can't run the bills who outside of their QB didn't run the ball well and the dolphins who have a super explosive offense but can't really stop anyone either.

In the NFC the eagles have a balanced O but as said without Davis their run D is pretty porous and the cowboys Seahawks Vikings niners and giants all run the ball well so until they get Davis back it's going to be a real test stopping those teams in season or post season.

Just now, Outlaw said:

Luck's out of the blue retirement didn't just screw that franchise, it fisted them.

Fireworks and an ATV have almost done as much damage to that team as Gettleman.

Don’t forget Burress’s self inflicted gun shot wound. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Irsay and Ballard have a lot more blame for their current team than Reich does. 

2018 -- Andrew Luck

2019 -- Jacoby Brissett

2020 -- Philip Rivers

2021 -- Carson Wentz

2022 -- Matt Ryan

2023 -- ????

 

Seems like more of a GM/Owner thing than a HC thing to me.  In fairness, Luck retired during the preseason in 2019 so they were stuck with Brissett, but 2020 is where they screwed up.  They traded away the #13 overall pick for DeForest Buckner when they needed to draft a QB badly, instead of signing Old Man Rivers.

Buckner has been pretty decent for them but not worth the 1st round pick.  

 

Really interesting argument made earlier about how the league is moving towards QBs that can scramble to avoid pressure.  Although it's kinda weird to see Fields on that list

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Irsay and Ballard have a lot more blame for their current team than Reich does. 

I mean Matt Pryor was their plan at LT.  Ballard should get the axe too.  Trading away Wentz wasn't on Reich anymore than trading for Ryan was.  I am sure trading for Wentz was on Reich and that's what has bothered Irsay.  Of course, they would have never been in the position if Luck had not had to retire due to his injuries.  

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

2018 -- Andrew Luck

2019 -- Jacoby Brissett

2020 -- Philip Rivers

2021 -- Carson Wentz

2022 -- Matt Ryan

2023 -- ????

 

Seems like more of a GM/Owner thing than a HC thing to me.  In fairness, Luck retired during the preseason in 2019 so they were stuck with Brissett, but 2020 is where they screwed up.  They traded away the #13 overall pick for DeForest Buckner when they needed to draft a QB badly, instead of signing Old Man Rivers.

Buckner has been pretty decent for them but not worth the 1st round pick.  

 

 

Jonathan Taylor is going to run out the door like his hair is on fire when he is a free agent.

I wonder if we can piece RB together next year, and then make a run at him in 2024.  He is obviously going to get paid, but coming here ( he grew up an Eagles fan from what I can tell ) maybe he takes a discount to run behind a good line for a team that is not dysfunctional.

12 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Henry is the entire Titans offense, Chubb, Mixon, and Ekeler are the only other ones worth it, and Ekeler is a steal at that number. Everyone else is not worth their cap hit.