On 11/6/2022 at 12:20 PM, pgcd3 said:

I can't think of a time when a former player walked straight into an OC role without coaching in the college or the pros

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Its not about "who's to blame"

The comment was that they did Reich dirty.  No they didnt.  How many years was he supposed to get?

He vouched for Wentz and it was a failure.  Thats squarely on Reich

He also brought in a proven vet in Ryan and it was again a disaster.  

Thats how the world works.  Theyre going to start with the low lying fruit and its Reichs turn to pay the piper

Ownership gave the OK on Wentz and ownership brought in Ryan. If youre telling me Reich strong armed them into giving up a 1st and a 3rd, then thats all you need to know about how badly things are run there in Indy. Ever since Luck retired, its clear that ownership thought the best route to go was through a veteran QB. 

But none of this really matters because that offense was never going to work with who they have at Oline and WR. Its poor roster construction up and down. That is on the GM. 

36 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Really interesting argument made earlier about how the league is moving towards QBs that can scramble to avoid pressure.  Although it's kinda weird to see Fields on that list

Of course, if your OL is going to be terrible it's crucial to have a mobile QB.  Solak takes his argument way, way too far, however.  There are still plenty of teams winning with pocket passers -- even in 2022.  The top 6 teams in each conference atm:

NFC 

Eagles 8-0 -- dual threat QB

Vikings 7-1 -- pocket passer

Dallas 6-2 -- pocket passer who can move

Giants 6-2 -- pocket passer who can move

Seattle 6-3 -- pocket passer

Niners 4-4 -- pocket passer

 

AFC

Bills 6-2 -- mobile QB who can win from the pocket

Chiefs 6-2 -- mobile QB who can win from the pocket

Jets 6-3 -- pocket passer

Dolphins 6-3 -- pocket passer

Ravens 5-3 -- dual threat QB

Titans 5-3 -- pocket passer

 

 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Had to check 10 times because I swore I was getting got by a fake twitter account. 

 

Clearly, Reich is to blame for everything. 

How the F do they go and hire Jeff Saturday to be interim coach off of the ESPN set? That makes 0 sense

 

Irsay opened the door for Brian Dawkins to be next years DC

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Had to check 10 times because I swore I was getting got by a fake twitter account. 

 

Clearly, Reich is to blame for everything. 

Man, that's the most Redskins thing ever to happen outside of Washington.  Dan Snyder has to be salivating at that idea.

Coming soon: Dan Snyder fires Ron Rivera.  Hires Art Monk to be new head coach.

 

Just now, EricAllenPick6 said:

Man, that's the most Redskins thing ever to happen outside of Washington.  Dan Snyder has to be salivating at that idea.

Coming soon: Dan Snyder fires Ron Rivera.  Hires Art Monk to be new head coach.

 

Wouldn’t even be art monk. They’d try and get Cousins

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Had to check 10 times because I swore I was getting got by a fake twitter account. 

 

Clearly, Reich is to blame for everything. 

Rooney rule doesn't go for in-season hires??  Don't they need to interview people before going off the reservation?

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Meh. Maybe if he wants to be a consultant. We have a young, promising coaching staff that deserves to be developed. Make Brian Johnson OC if Shane leaves. 

I agree.  But, Reich also is a bit of an old salt now, and has things that he can impart to younger coaches to aid in their development.  Bringing him in doesn't necessitate that he'd automatically get to be the OC, but maybe bring him in as the QB coach if you need to move Johnson up to OC.   We don't have to bring in 'retreads' from coaching staffs gone by... but there's something to be said for bringing in someone who is already well acquainted with the pieces you already have in place.   And if the offense continues on its current roll, there's no way that Steichen comes back next year... he's gone.  So, there will be a massive hole in the coaching staff.  Who will fill that void?  Johnson moves up to OC, and there's a void at QB coach.   We saw what happened here when Reich and DeFillippo both left and we just moved people up from within the ranks with Groh and Taylor.  I don't want to repeat that mistake.  

 

Reich could easily land on his feet with Doug or Nick... or even elsewhere.  He could follow McDaniels and go take over the Raiders.  I think he'd be far better there than McDaniels, and I think Reich's biggest problem in Indy was the QB Carousel they've been on since he got there, and frankly, I don't think it is really his fault that its been that way.  They've thought that they were a QB away for a while... and they haven't been.  

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

Neither did I.  There were a couple on here who did but not sure why.

4for4 was one of the loudest voices for him, IIRC, and claimed that Nick was clueless.  🤔

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Irsay making Irsay moves

Was he sober when he did that?

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Rooney rule doesn't go for in-season hires??  Don't they need to interview people before going off the reservation?

Interesting question -- I would assume that it does apply if you're promoting within a current staff, but I would assume that it would apply if you're hiring from outside.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Rooney rule doesn't go for in-season hires??  Don't they need to interview people before going off the reservation?

Doesn't apply to interim hires

1 hour ago, Mike31mt said:

Reich made that bed.  He brought Wentz in and then allowed him to be the scape goat.  He brought in Matt Ryan and allowed him to be the scape goat.

He could have had some principle and stood up for the players when it mattered.  But when  he didn't, he put himself on this path where there was no one else to blame.  

If he's afraid to stand up for his staff and hand-picked players, hes a coward.  Especially considering its a pill head like Irsay

That was Reich's move?  

 

And we don't know what Reich did or didn't do for these players behind closed doors.  But, there's something about having integrity that doesn't allow some people to air all their dirty laundry publicly.  

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Was he sober when he did that?

You're about to find out!

3 minutes ago, EricAllenPick6 said:

Interesting question -- I would assume that it does apply if you're promoting within a current staff, but I would assume that it would apply if you're hiring from outside.

 

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Was he sober when he did that?

Here's Irsay yesterday.

 

35 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Its not about "who's to blame"

The comment was that they did Reich dirty.  No they didnt.  How many years was he supposed to get?

He vouched for Wentz and it was a failure.  Thats squarely on Reich

He also brought in a proven vet in Ryan and it was again a disaster.  

Thats how the world works.  Theyre going to start with the low lying fruit and its Reichs turn to pay the piper

Was that his call, or was that forced upon him?

Reich likely should be canned, as that's the way the NFL cookie crumbles, but so should the GM.  When does his head roll?

23 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

If you can have a "Call of Duty" clause for Kyler I would think a "not riding 500 lb open air roll over risks" seems reasonable.

I once had a patient who had a lacerated spleen and several broken bones.  He was being pulled behind an ATV riding on the back of a attached upside down car hood when his friend on a different ATV ran him over.  Kid was dumb as a bag of rocks but I gotta admit that was the most entertaining way I saw someone end up in the ED.

I'm pretty sure there are standard clauses in these contracts about engaging in 'dangerous' activities.  McKinney might be losing some money for the amount of time he'll miss.  

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Not really sure about that.  It's a deep FA class.

Also, not that difficult to find a really good RB on day 2 of the draft. 

I’d sign someone like Mattison who doesn’t have a ton of miles on him and draft one on day 2 of the draft. 

20 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

FYP

Agreed.

10 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Rooney rule doesn't go for in-season hires??  Don't they need to interview people before going off the reservation?

Interim title saves that, I think.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm pretty sure there are standard clauses in these contracts about engaging in 'dangerous' activities.  McKinney might be losing some money for the amount of time he'll miss.  

I would think so. I believe injury protection only covers players during games, practice, or workouts at the team facility. This would certainly be an NFI candidate. 

13 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Was he sober when he woke up

FYP