Its almost good that we play the Colts next week because its like a do-over. 

If I see more Eagles being dragged down the field by the Colts backup TE Ill know the defense was thoroughly exposed.

5 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We can only beat who's on our schedule. You're the guy that is usually real big on stats like DVOA because it takes level of opponent into account, right? Well we were the 2nd or 3rd top DVOA defense before last night. And even after last night, I suspect we'll still be top 5. Let's pump the brakes a bit and hold out for a larger sample size, maybe.

The run defense has been pretty poor for most of the season, especially when Davis is not on the field.

 

I'll add... with how well our CBs have been playing, teams will want to run the ball rather than throw.  And it will limit the time our offense is on the field, and it will shorten the game.   If this team can't figure out how to stop the run effectively, getting HFA might be a pipe dream.  Winning the division might become a question mark too, as Barkley is playing out of his mind right now.   Getting swept by the Giants is a very real possibility right now.

36 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’m not arguing that we are no longer contenders. I’m saying the blueprint to beat us is out there, and we better figure it out. 

The blue print to beat us is to have 70% time of possession and force 4 turnovers. I wasn’t happy with that game last night and there are issues, but I don’t think the sky is falling like some people on here think. 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The blue print to beat us is to have 70% time of possession and force 4 turnovers. I wasn’t happy with that game last night and there are issues, but I don’t think the sky is falling like some people on here think. 

Yeah they just magically got to 70%, huh?  Fell right into that, and it had nothing to do with Taylor f'ing Heinecke eviscerating our secondary and Washingtons OL dominating the game.  Nothing to see here, folks...

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The blue print to beat us is to have 70% time of possession and force 4 turnovers. I wasn’t happy with that game last night and there are issues, but I don’t think the sky is falling like some people on here think. 

Sky isn't falling.  Problems exist and need to be addressed because things change quickly in the NFL.

 

Last year, the team started 3-6... and finished in the playoffs.   Meanwhile, the Cardinals started 7-0... and didn't win their division.

A long time ago, the Eagles started the season 7-2... they finished 7-9 and missed the playoffs.   It can happen.  

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The blue print to beat us is to have 70% time of possession and force 4 turnovers. I wasn’t happy with that game last night and there are issues, but I don’t think the sky is falling like some people on here think. 

You’re missing the point, and I don’t think the sky is falling. 

Yes, the players made some bad mistakes but the coaching was horrendous last night.  One touch for Sanders in the 1st half is unacceptable.  They need to get their big uglies dominating the line of scrimmage and control the ball.  Their offense got clicking when they went to Sanders in the 2nd half.  With their OL, the Eagles are basically unstoppable if they commit to the run.  Mix in PA when they drop 8 in the box.  If they don't, continue to pound them into submission.

Defensively, Gannon got absolutely schooled by Scott Turner.  Mainly because he continues to use the 5-2 front that just doesn't work without Davis.  One crack in the DL and their RBs are breaking into our secondary line of defense.  The 4-3 with blitzing LBs needs to be employed more against the run to shoot gaps and stop them in the backfield before they get a head of steam.  On 3rd down, can we please put tight coverage/double their best WR?  8 yard cushions with soft zones on McLaurin aren't going to cut it.

There are adjustments to be made schematically.  Not sure that there are really any personnel changes they could make besides bringing up Wilson to give the DTs a breather.  

It’s Devonta "Jeremy Maclin” Smith.  There is nothing wrong with that.  

2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah they just magically got to 70%, huh?  Fell right into that, and it had nothing to do with Taylor f'ing Heinecke eviscerating our secondary and Washingtons OL dominating the game.  Nothing to see here, folks...

And like the Texans with nothing at QB or receiver or TE running the ball well against us. This isn’t even a one-game thing. 

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Yeah they just magically got to 70%, huh?  Fell right into that, and it had nothing to do with Taylor f'ing Heinecke eviscerating our secondary and Washingtons OL dominating the game.  Nothing to see here, folks...

Like I said, if teams can maintain 70% T.O.P against this defense and force four turnovers, then yeah I guess the sky is falling. I don’t know many teams out there where that isn’t the blue print to beat them. 

Im factoring in Kelces injury to the analysis of the O.  That didnt help dealing with those DTs and it could explain the few runs that were called.

And Im sure him sitting on the sidelines in cold weather for 20 minute increments didnt help loosen it up either

 

3 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

It’s Devonta "Jeremy Maclin” Smith.  There is nothing wrong with that.  

Smith runs harder than Self Tacklin at least

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

Have you seen the list of Playoff QBs?

Danny Jones, Geno Smith(yes I know he's having a good year but he's not Aaron Rodgers from 3 years ago) Jimmy G and now Taylor Heinieke may sneak into the playoffs?

The best QB's in the NFC are 71 year old Tom Brady, Cousins' who we already beat

Don't hate on Jimmy G. Dude surprises every year in the PO. That's the only team I'm scared of

4 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Like I said, if teams can maintain 70% T.O.P against this defense and force four turnovers, then yeah I guess the sky is falling. I don’t know many teams out there where that isn’t the blue print to beat them. 

Not many teams can accomplish what the mighty Commandera did.

 

Is that your point?  If so, Id consider re-thinking.

 

The biggest positive from last night was that eagles lose their 1st game, and it was totally not on Hurts.

15 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We can only beat who's on our schedule. You're the guy that is usually real big on stats like DVOA because it takes level of opponent into account, right? Well we were the 2nd or 3rd top DVOA defense before last night. And even after last night, I suspect we'll still be top 5. Let's pump the brakes a bit and hold out for a larger sample size, maybe.

our run defense was 27th in DVOA entering the game. Pass defense they were 2nd. Even before Davis got hurt their DVOA against the run was 22nd. 

9 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

You’re missing the point, and I don’t think the sky is falling. 

Not necessarily referring to you, just the overall sentiment on here after the result last night. They were never going 17-0, almost every good team in every season always has a WTF loss that makes you wonder how that happened. That’s the league and that’s how it goes. And I’ll be the first one to point out any serious issues on this team, but the bottom line is that they turned the ball over 3 times up until the last play and still basically lost by less than a TD. And had a catastrophic missed face mask go against them which was game-changing. There’s no excuse for the defense in the first half, but the problems that they have are identifiable and fixable. That’s where gameplanning during the week comes in. Everyone knew the run defense was going to struggle when Davis went down. The splits with him on and off the field against the run stuck out like a beacon. But they need to survive without him the next few weeks. 

21 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We can only beat who's on our schedule. You're the guy that is usually real big on stats like DVOA because it takes level of opponent into account, right? Well we were the 2nd or 3rd top DVOA defense before last night. And even after last night, I suspect we'll still be top 5. Let's pump the brakes a bit and hold out for a larger sample size, maybe.

I'm freaking out man! 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

our run defense was 27th in DVOA entering the game. Pass defense they were 2nd. Even before Davis got hurt their DVOA against the run was 22nd. 

Amazing how one guy playing 30% of the time makes that much of a difference… all those 3rd downs, oof.

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

49ers have an uphill battle to make the playoffs and NO. Jimmy G, playoff JIMMY G doesnt scare me or surprise me

His playoff numbers are putrid. 

Now, I am a little nervous about the 9ers defense. 

Jimmy has to do just enough and the defense does the rest. He's shown that last year and if Tartt?? picks that ball off, 9ers go to the SB not the Rams. 49ers will win that division. Mitchell is back, Deboo, and then you bring in CMC. Defense is getting guys back at the right time. I believe they're a game out of first? I wouldn't really call it an uphill battle. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

our run defense was 27th in DVOA entering the game. Pass defense they were 2nd. Even before Davis got hurt their DVOA against the run was 22nd. 

Thank you. Big leads and dominating the turnover margins have masked how bad the run defense is. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

our run defense was 27th in DVOA entering the game. Pass defense they were 2nd. Even before Davis got hurt their DVOA against the run was 22nd. 

The issue with losing a run stopper like Davis is that it tends to affect other areas of the defense. Teams can use the run so that the defense is forced to load the box, bringing the secondary in more often - leading to what we witnessed last night - a lot of open receivers and secondary breakdowns, etc 

29 minutes ago, RLC said:

Can Smith play better too? Especially vs. Man coverage. 

Sadly, none of our WRs showed out last night.

Didnt help the coaching staff set the offense up to fail. How many run plays called in the first half? We did exactly what the Redskins defense wanted us to do. We went away from the offense that made us successful by est a run game. 

Also cant just blame the WRs, Hurts was not good with his accuracy as well. Most have bushed it off all season but a lot of his passes are underthrown or behind receivers. Its just the receivers have been making the plays making great catches. Last night it was not the case, receivers didnt show that impact and did not step up for Hurts struggles. But in the end most games the WRs have made Hurts look better, they had a off game. When I say WRs, I say Brown, Smith and Goedert. Watkins is just a situational player. 

As for the defense, its been the same problem the last two seasons under Gannon so not shocking at all. The key is run the ball against us, and hit the soft spots of the cover 2 zone shelf Gannon is known for. The problem is all season most teams have fell into our trap by trying to come out hot passing and getting away from the run game. Kind of funny its the same problem we had on offense last night.

This team was out coached on both sides of the ball. 

Just now, ManuManu said:

Thank you. Big leads and dominating the turnover margins have masked how bad the run defense is. 

Losing Jordan Davis isn’t helping.  And the lack of adjustments by Gannon isn’t helping either. 

I feel like Gannons mindset is that we will score so many points each game that if they focus on shutting down the passing game, who cares if they run on us because they'll never catch up.  

Problem is, when we don't score, and we are getting the ball run down our throats, he isn't making any kind of adjustments.  Just keeps watching it happen.