3 minutes ago, myerstheman said:

It’s like this because this defense is soft. 

This.  Just can’t win with a defense this porous. When you have a weak spot in the defense, could at least try to offset it by being aggressive.  But Gannon is clueless and is fine with getting run over.  He needs to go.  Period 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would love for a reporter to ask Sirianni about why on 2nd and 8 at the 22 late in the 4th quarter and needing to go 78 yards to get a score to take the lead he decided we were going to go with a three tight end formation along with gainwell and quez out there well. Meanwhile my two top wide receivers in brown and smith are on the sideline

The sack that Hurts took on the third down of that drive was killer. My guess was they would have gone for a 4th and 8 if they didn't gain any yardage on the third down. If you don't get it, the defense can still hold to a field goal and you get the ball back needing a TD and two-point conversion to tie. And then you get the Siposs botch and illegal man downfield penalty which killed the two-minute warning stoppage they would have got. 

That game was the definition of not getting one break to go their way. Deep ball by Hurts to AJ which was catchable and ends up picked, botched snap over Heinicke's head which he gets back and throws away, the missed Goedert facemask, the Quez fumble where he scores if he stays on his feet, Siposs killing the two-minute warning stoppage, Graham getting flagged on the QB give-up. If one of those goes the other way, it's probably a different game. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Titans is really going to be about stopping Henry. Their other offensive weapons aren’t very good. If they score over 20 I’m guessing it’s cause Henry went wild. 

the bears are capable of scoring points cause fields as a runner can open things up with the run game. I actually said on Sunday I’d rather have faced the bears in September and early October than mid December in Chicago. The weather at that time of the year actually benefits the offense they are running. I think we win cause bears defense is just awful. but the bears have scored 29 or more in 3 consecutive games.  

imo the giants game is likely going to be a 21-17 type game. gonna see a ton of Barkley and bootlegs/play action from Daniel jones off of it. Also the giants for the most part this year have done a good job not shooting themselves in the foot. Year’s past theyd routinely figure a way to botch it. Imo the giants want to play that game in the teens cause it means they’ve ball controlled the crap out of you to keep it close. Their game plan is pretty simple keep it close by running the ball and ball control with a chance in the 4th quarter and hope Barkley and jones make plays with their legs in the end. 

Ya I don't know, I'm just not seeing those teams being able to score more than 20pts per game against us on avg. I could be wrong and the dam could break, but just have to wait and see I guess.

10 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The sack that Hurts took on the third down of that drive was killer. My guess was they would have gone for a 4th and 8 if they didn't gain any yardage on the third down. If you don't get it, the defense can still hold to a field goal and you get the ball back needing a TD and two-point conversion to tie. And then you get the Syposs botch and illegal man downfield penalty which killed the two-minute warning stoppage they would have got. 

That game was the definition of not getting one break to go their way. Deep ball by Hurts to AJ which was catchable and ends up picked, botched snap over Heinicke's head which he gets back and throws away, the missed Goedert facemask, the Quez fumble where he scores if he stays on his feet, Syposs killing the two-minute warning stoppage, Graham getting flagged on the QB give-up. If one of those goes the other way, it's probably a different game. 

I wouldn't blame Siposs, he prevented a disaster. 

Looked like Dean and Wallace both didn't bother do anything on the free rusher. 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Redskins arent terrible.

Yes they are. They have a bum at qb

If you have a guy like Heinebum playing qb you make him beat you. Not the run. 

4 minutes ago, myerstheman said:

Yes they are. They have a bum at qb

Heinicke isn't a bum. He's a capable backup who has helped win them 3 of their last 4 games. 

On 11/7/2022 at 9:31 AM, Waiting4Someday said:

WAS can make it interesting - willingness to run, QB with some mobility that can extend plays/drives, some big play threats that will likely dictate that Gannon calls a conservative game.

On defense they get Young back and Jordan has looked a bit dinged/shaky - their front seven on paper should be OK against the run. They held Curt to 20 points despite Jefferson, Hockenson and Theilen having good production (comparable to what you might expect from AJ, Goedert and Smitty). 10.5 seems a bit rich for a division game where everything typically doesn’t go right…

Yet I’m still surprised…

6 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

The sack that Hurts took on the third down of that drive was killer. My guess was they would have gone for a 4th and 8 if they didn't gain any yardage on the third down. If you don't get it, the defense can still hold to a field goal and you get the ball back needing a TD and two-point conversion to tie. And then you get the Siposs botch and illegal man downfield penalty which killed the two-minute warning stoppage they would have got. 

That game was the definition of not getting one break to go their way. Deep ball by Hurts to AJ which was catchable and ends up picked, botched snap over Heinicke's head which he gets back and throws away, the missed Goedert facemask, the Quez fumble where he scores if he stays on his feet, Siposs killing the two-minute warning stoppage, Graham getting flagged on the QB give-up. If one of those goes the other way, it's probably a different game. 

Don’t disagree. But that doesnt answer my question about 2nd and 8 you have your two best WRs in brown and smith on the sideline in favor of having goedert, calcaterra, stoll, gainwell and Watkins on the field.  

The odds are much more in your favor on 2nd and 8 of having a successful play when your 2 best wide receivers aren’t the Fing sidelined 

Overall, I think the players and the coaches were lulled into complacency.  The NFL is constantly adapting and if you aren't improving/adjusting you are getting worse.  That being said, I think this team will respond.  Not sure about the coaches.  Go back to running the ball and dominating possession on O.  Gannon needs to pull his head out of his ass.  His D scheme against the run isn't working with the personnel.  Make a freaking adjustment!

 

I haven't bothered to read this thread since I got home last night, and I'm not sure I'm going to go back to read much. If I do, it won't be for awhile. But I wanted to jump in to give a math update. It's something that has bothered me for years. It's just that I have a theory that anytime an opposing kicker attempts a REALLY long field goal against us, they don't miss. It's f'n uncanny. And it's annoying as hell.

I went back through the records to look at all the long (in this case I defined it as anything over 55 yards) kicks opposing kickers have attempted against us since 2010. Including last night, there have been nine such attempts. Seven have been successful. Based on mathematical expectancies regarding each kick based on its distance, you'd expect about 3.5 of them to be good. Instead opposing kickers have doubled that efficiency.

It's not the reason we lost, but I'm annoyed. 

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Ya I don't know, I'm just not seeing those teams being able to score more than 20pts per game against us on avg. I could be wrong and the dam could break, but just have to wait and see I guess.

Earlier in the season I’d agree with you on the bears. But last 4 games they’ve scored 33 at New England, 29 at Dallas, 32 vs. Miami and 30 vs. lions. They are averaging 31 ppg last 4. What they do well is what the eagle struggle with. They don’t want to pass the ball. So it kind of negates a lot of your strength of slay and Bradberry. They just want to run the ball with field and Herbert/Montgomery and throw it less. Tbh reminds me of the eagles last year 

1 minute ago, RLC said:

 

Wait. We won???

9-0 BABYYYYYY

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I haven't bothered to read this thread since I got home last night, and I'm not sure I'm going to go back to read much. If I do, it won't be for awhile. But I wanted to jump in to give a math update. It's something that has bothered me for years. It's just that I have a theory that anytime an opposing kicker attempts a REALLY long field goal against us, they don't miss. It's f'n uncanny. And it's annoying as hell.

I went back through the records to look at all the long (in this case I defined it as anything over 55 yards) kicks opposing kickers have attempted against us since 2010. Including last night, there have been nine such attempts. Seven have been successful. Based on mathematical expectancies regarding each kick based on its distance, you'd expect about 3.5 of them to be good. Instead opposing kickers have doubled that efficiency.

It's not the reason we lost, but I'm annoyed. 

So annoying!

6 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

feel awful for goedert. I’m surprised he was still out there for the rest of the game. It didn’t look good when he hit the ground. Curious to see if he goes on short term IR. If he doesn’t kind of feels like they think he’s back within 2-3 weeks 

that said if you were on any of my fantasy teams this past week it was rough. Kupp, fournette, ertz and goedert all got hurt. 

9 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I haven't bothered to read this thread since I got home last night, and I'm not sure I'm going to go back to read much. If I do, it won't be for awhile. But I wanted to jump in to give a math update. It's something that has bothered me for years. It's just that I have a theory that anytime an opposing kicker attempts a REALLY long field goal against us, they don't miss. It's f'n uncanny. And it's annoying as hell.

I went back through the records to look at all the long (in this case I defined it as anything over 55 yards) kicks opposing kickers have attempted against us since 2010. Including last night, there have been nine such attempts. Seven have been successful. Based on mathematical expectancies regarding each kick based on its distance, you'd expect about 3.5 of them to be good. Instead opposing kickers have doubled that efficiency.

It's not the reason we lost, but I'm annoyed. 

This goes back to the Matt Bryant 62 yarder back in 2006 against them after the McDougle 30 yard penalty against Tampa. It feels like every long field goal against them not only goes in, but it's split right down the middle without a doubt of missing. The Parkey double-doink helped equal it out a little bit given that it was a playoff game and kicks like that probably go in 80% of the time, but it's still maddening. 

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

feel awful for goedert. I’m surprised he was still out there for the rest of the game. It didn’t look good when he hit the ground. Curious to see if he goes on short term IR. If he doesn’t kind of feels like they think he’s back within 2-3 weeks 

that said if you were on any of my fantasy teams this past week it was rough. Kupp, fournette, ertz and goedert all got hurt. 

I'm guessing by the wording it's IR worthy, and Tyree Jackson likely takes his roster spot.

If Goedert is the only injury, feels like Eagles we’re lucky. Every major offensive player was in the tent or limping around at some point.

Interested to see how Hurts responds next week without Goedert.

21 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Redskins arent terrible.

Not lately.  They won 4 of last 5.

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

 

Missed face mask penalty that led to a serious injury.  SMH.  Huge red mark against that officiating crew, imo. 

This team greatly struggles against the run. Even with Jordan Davis, they were giving up 5.1 yards a carry. The offense is starting to slip as well. Before the bye week the Birds were averaging 156 rushing yards and 238 passing, after the bye its been 116 rushing and 225 passing. The strength of this team is supposed to be running, but they are currently ranked 22nd in YPC.

This teams biggest weakness is against teams with solid running games and above average passing games. Giants, Cowboys, Titans with Tannehill, and possibly even the Packers now are going to give this team some trouble.

I didn't think Hurts played all that well, and I don't blame him for that Int, but the offense had 3 turnovers and still had multiple chances to take the lead in the 4th. Saw some panicking in the pocket and felt he ran right into defenders when he was trying to run out of the pocket on that 3rd and 8 before the 2 min warning. Gainwell was wide open, and had the opportunity for the 1st down.

Have a good opportunity to get back on track next week, but both the run defense and offense need to get sorted out.

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I'm guessing by the wording it's IR worthy, and Tyree Jackson likely takes his roster spot.

I’d guess that too but Tim McManus had this a tweet 

 

Damn and dick rod isn’t available anymore! 

Also Jalen gotta stop trying that stupid juke move. Its his go to ever since that Saints game last year and now it just looks dumb because everyone can see it coming a mile away.