11 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you werent such a Hurts fluffer it would make sense to you. The ball was underthrown. 

I guess the rent payment got missed this week

I think Watkins isn't that good of a WR (definitely not as good as fans make him out to be) and he fell to help secure the catch. 

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Amazing he just now figured it out. 

The one wrinkle we couldn't have possibly seen coming.....33% probability on literally every set of downs but hey, they cant plan for everything 

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think Watkins isn't that good of a WR (definitely not as good as fans make him out to be) and he fell to help secure the catch. 

Yup i felt the same way. I dont think he trusted his hands and to make sure he secure it he went to the ground. I know ross tucker and think sheil on their podcast after the game or his interview on WIP felt that way too. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yup i felt the same way. I dont think he trusted his hands and to make sure he secure it he went to the ground. I know ross tucker and think sheil on their podcast after the game or his interview on WIP felt that way too. 

running full speed on a go route, and having to slow up for the underthrown ball gets feet crossed up. Crossed up feet, and reaching behind when all your momentum is taking you the other way often brings you to the ground. You see guys do to the ground on underthrown deep balls all the time. Hurts doesnt have the arm to hit Quez in stride down field. I was just happy the finally completed one. 

And then the fumble happened. So the throw ended up causing the turnover.

Since people are goofy and dont recognize Quez's talent here is a replacement. 

Jayden Reed is no slouch at WR and could replace the miniscule role at WR that Quez has. Reed is an excellent deep threat. But the appeal is his special teams experience. 307 career special teams snaps, and includes experience as both a punt AND kick returner. This is a guy we may need. 

I know Quez is really good and even I wouldnt complain if we replaced him with Reed this year.

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

running full speed on a go route, and having to slow up for the underthrown ball gets feet crossed up. Crossed up feet, and reaching behind when all your momentum is taking you the other way often brings you to the ground. You see guys do to the ground on underthrown deep balls all the time. Hurts doesnt have the arm to hit Quez in stride down field. I was just happy the finally completed one. 

And then the fumble happened. So the throw ended up causing the turnover.

That is some kinda logic. True the fumble would not have happened if the throw hadn't happened but what you are saying is that it was like a bad handoff that caused the fumble and that's not the case. Quez got up with poor ball security and the db took advantage of it. You could see that fumble coming because of the way Quez got up and ran. The throw might have caused him to go to the ground for the catch but it didn't cause the fumble.

WR3 is not my top concern.

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think Watkins isn't that good of a WR (definitely not as good as fans make him out to be) and he fell to help secure the catch. 

I think he’s fine as the third receiver. I’m not sure why he fell over, but I don’t think the throw caused it. Just bad luck to lose a fumble in that moment. 

3 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

That is some kinda logic. True the fumble would not have happened if the throw hadn't happened but what you are saying is that it was like a bad handoff that caused the fumble and that's not the case. Quez got up with poor ball security and the db took advantage of it. You could see that fumble coming because of the way Quez got up and ran. The throw might have caused him to go to the ground for the catch but it didn't cause the fumble.

If the throw hits Watkins in stride, he is running away from those DBs. Since he had to slow down, and it took him to the ground, it caused the scenario where he had time to stand back up while the DB caught up and stripped him from behind. 

Better throw + TD. Underthrow caused the fumble to even be a possibility. Otherwise the DB is nowhere near him.

He's going to have a terrible Jersey number. 

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I’ve watched this a few times. The throw leads him inside obviously and isn’t where it’s supposed to be, but to doesn’t cause him to fall down. 

If you’re assigning some blame to Hurts, it’s nit picky at best.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He's going to have a terrible Jersey number. 

Yep. 

8 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think he’s fine as the third receiver. I’m not sure why he fell over, but I don’t think the throw caused it. Just bad luck to lose a fumble in that moment. 

Yea, he's fine for the roll he's in. I didn't mean he should be upgraded or anything. I just don't think he has the hands to bring that in without going down. 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve watched this a few times. The throw leads him inside obviously and isn’t where it’s supposed to be, but to doesn’t cause him to fall down. 

If you’re assigning some blame to Hurts, it’s nit picky at best.

An A+ throw would’ve been in front of Quez, an A+ receiver would have snatched the ball on the move (stopping his feet makes it slightly easier on concentrating on a lowball and securing the catch) -or- did a better job securing the ball, as DBs know a WR gathering himself is a good target for a peanut punch (they practice for this possibility). Unfortunate play, actually a nice job by the DB despite getting beat.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

Amazing he just now figured it out. 

Credit where credit is due.   At least he acknowledged it as a problem.

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Yes... boneless is a nugget.

 

And now the Eagles need to find a way to trade Lane Johnson.  Totally unacceptable.  The man is confused.    Maybe if we can't trade him, we could get him into a biology or anatomy class to learn what a 'wing' is.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

 

Is Cox defending a box?  Or is he stopping the run?

55 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Just saying we can bring back trey burton or celek at tight end with goedert out. 

Keith Jackson or John Spagnola?

51 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think Watkins isn't that good of a WR (definitely not as good as fans make him out to be) and he fell to help secure the catch. 

Yup.  His hands are not good.

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Credit where credit is due.   At least he acknowledged it as a problem.

Yes... boneless is a nugget.

 

And now the Eagles need to find a way to trade Lane Johnson.  Totally unacceptable.  The man is confused.    Maybe if we can't trade him, we could get him into a biology or anatomy class to learn what a 'wing' is.

Clearly still concussed 

26 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

The throw leads him inside obviously and isn’t where it’s supposed to be, but to doesn’t cause him to fall down. 

If you’re assigning some blame to Hurts, it’s nit picky at best.

I have no idea where you think the throw is supposed to be, but a post route is a pretty common nfl play. The ball hits him perfectly in stride and should have been a walk in TD.

Like, do you really think Desean Jackson or Tyreke Hill falls down on this catch?

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Is Cox defending a box?  Or is he stopping the run?

At least Gannon is smart enough not to come out with the we gotta execute stuff.  Sounds like he's throwing Fletch a bone - don't want him whining about the scheme again. 

38 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think he’s fine as the third receiver. I’m not sure why he fell over, but I don’t think the throw caused it. Just bad luck to lose a fumble in that moment. 

🤔. Nah.  Bad ball security.  He can't expect that he can get up off the ground and not have a DB right on his heels looking to strip the ball.  He has to get up knowing that a hit and a strip attempt is coming.   Job #1 is ball security.  Everything comes after that.   No 'luck' involved in that fumble.  Bad fundamentals.

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I have no idea where you think the throw is supposed to be, but a post route is a pretty common nfl play. The ball hits him perfectly in stride and should have been a walk in TD.

Like, do you really think Desean Jackson or Tyreke Hill falls down on this catch?

Desean Jackson tracks the ball on a HoF level, he's Willy Mays in that regard... Quez is WR3.

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