33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I’ve watched this a few times. The throw leads him inside obviously and isn’t where it’s supposed to be, but to doesn’t cause him to fall down. 

If you’re assigning some blame to Hurts, it’s nit picky at best.

It was Kelce's fault.  He snapped the ball to Hurts in such a manner that he had time to make this throw, which led to Quez catching it, falling down, getting up and fumbling.  Clearly, Kelce should be apologizing to the team for his effort on this play.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

If you werent such a Hurts fluffer it would make sense to you. The ball was underthrown. 

 

Makes no sense whatsoever as to why he had to fall down for it.  If it was overthrown and he had to drive for the ball but that wasn't the case.  Hit him perfectly enough to catch that while running and maintain standing.  

 

Sometimes WRs just fall to the ground when it's completely unnecessary while making a catch.  Reminds me of a catch in the most recent Bucs game where Brady threw to a wide open Scott Miller over the middle of the field who for no reason decided to jump into the air to catch the ball and fall down.  

6 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I have no idea where you think the throw is supposed to be, but a post route is a pretty common nfl play. The ball hits him perfectly in stride and should have been a walk in TD.

Like, do you really think Desean Jackson or Tyreke Hill falls down on this catch?

wasnt a post. thats where the underthrown ball took him. 

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

It was Kelce's fault.  He snapped the ball to Hurts in such a manner that he had time to make this throw, which led to Quez catching it, falling down, getting up and fumbling.  Clearly, Kelce should be apologizing to the team for his effort on this play.

The new heights interview confirmed what I figured about the Swag squat -  you want to be ready, stay ready.

43 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

If the throw hits Watkins in stride, he is running away from those DBs. Since he had to slow down, and it took him to the ground, it caused the scenario where he had time to stand back up while the DB caught up and stripped him from behind. 

Better throw + TD. Underthrow caused the fumble to even be a possibility. Otherwise the DB is nowhere near him.

Whatever the imperfections of the throw, Quez secured it, got up and fumbled. It's on Watkins not Hurts, IMO

2 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Whatever the imperfections of the throw, Quez secured it, got up and fumbled. It's on Watkins not Hurts, IMO

He wouldnt fall if the throw was better. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

He wouldnt fall if the throw was better. 

 

There was no issue with the throw though, it was right on him.  Can't even take you seriously on this.   The captain cheerleader of the Carson Strong movement.  You haven't been able to show yourself impartial towards Hurts at any moment.  Just goes to show of the extreme ignorance of some of you people when it comes to this game.  

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He wouldnt fall if the throw was better. 

So, the throw caused the fall, how did that cause the fumble? Bad mechanics on Quez and good db play caused the fumble, IMO, but its not worth debating. Different interpretations, that's all

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There was no issue with the throw though, it was right on him.  Can't even take you seriously on this.   The captain cheerleader of the Carson Strong movement.  You haven't been able to show yourself impartial towards Hurts at any moment.  Just goes to show of the extreme ignorance of some of you people when it comes to this game.  

thats completely dishonest.

1 minute ago, Next_Up said:

So, the throw caused the fall, how did that cause the fumble? Bad mechanics on Quez and good db play caused the fumble, IMO, but its not worth debating. Different interpretations, that's all

If he didnt fall he never could have gotten stripped. That happened because the act of getting up from the fall allowed the DB to catch him and strip it.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

He wouldnt fall if the throw was better. 

Ehh. We’ve seen receivers fall down to secure well thrown balls over the shoulder too. 

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

There was no issue with the throw though, it was right on him.  Can't even take you seriously on this.   The captain cheerleader of the Carson Strong movement.  You haven't been able to show yourself impartial towards Hurts at any moment.  Just goes to show of the extreme ignorance of some of you people when it comes to this game.  

Hilarious. Remember when Foles won a Super Bowl and you were upset about it?You wanted him benched. 

Foles + 2017 run D >>> Hurts + 2022 run D 

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Ehh. We’ve seen receivers fall down to secure well thrown balls over the shoulder too. 

BUT... this wasnt over the shoulder. It was underthrown and inside. It ended up more like a post.

Should have been over the shoulder if Hurts had the arm. But he didnt, so it wasnt a TD.

26 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I have no idea where you think the throw is supposed to be, but a post route is a pretty common nfl play. The ball hits him perfectly in stride and should have been a walk in TD.

Like, do you really think Desean Jackson or Tyreke Hill falls down on this catch?

You don’t just throw the ball anywhere inside on a post route. You’re supposed to lead him away from the safety. That throw was a little inside of ideally where it should be, which would be more upfield.

But I don’t want to get into a corner where I’m nitpicking a big throw that Watkins screwed up. It was obviously a good ball.

@HazletonEagle thinks that Hurts is trash and that Watkins is absolved of blame for falling down on a route and failing to protect the ball. Was the throw a bit too inside, sure. It's also 50 yards downfield outdoors.

Watkins is fine as WR #3. No need to spend resources to upgrade him, no need to resign him.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

BUT... this wasnt over the shoulder. It was underthrown and inside. It ended up more like a post.

Should have been over the shoulder if Hurts had the arm. But he didnt, so it wasnt a TD.

If Watkins hadn't fallen or allowed the ball to be punched out then it would have been a touch down, but he didn't, so it wasn't a TD.

It works both ways, but to me watkins is more to blame than hurts.

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

BUT... this wasnt over the shoulder. It was underthrown and inside. It ended up more like a post.

Should have been over the shoulder if Hurts had the arm. But he didnt, so it wasnt a TD.

It was a post. 

2 minutes ago, rrfierce said:

If Watkins hadn't fallen or allowed the ball to be punched out then it would have been a touch down, but he didn't, so it wasn't a TD.

It works both ways, but to me watkins is more to blame than hurts.

No, it doesnt. Maybe if the throw was right where it needed to be. But thats not the case. Throw is more to blame. It allowed the situation for Quez to F up. Hurts needs to put his players in better position to make plays. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It was a post. 

It's clearly a skinny post. Quez breaks inside before Hurts throws the ball. 

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

It's clearly a skinny post. Quez breaks inside before Hurts throws the ball. 

lol. So wrong.

He didnt "break inside" he went inside to get around the DB and continued upfield. He then went more like a post when he was tracking the poorly thrown ball which led him towards the safety. A post doesnt even make sense in that coverage. Theres a single high safety and the post runs right at it. It was NOT a post. Anyone who says it was isnt thinking logically. 

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

It was a post. 

very incorrect.

Has it been 2 weeks already? Damn that went by quickly

 

Yes. More geriatrics. 

Remember Watkins is in his third year - so basically a rookie.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

lol. So wrong.

He didnt "break inside" he went inside to get around the DB and continued upfield. He then went more like a post when he was tracking the poorly thrown ball which led him towards the safety. A post doesnt even make sense in that coverage. Theres a single high safety and the post runs right at it. It was NOT a post. Anyone who says it was isnt thinking logically. 

He didn't stack the CB.

Also, they are playing 2 high. So the post attacks the void between the safeties. 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

At worse if suh stinks now he will just cheapshot the other teams best player. So it’s a win win lol