1 minute ago, Westbrook#36 said:

If Hurts wins the SB, pay him. Then it's only a couple years we're buried by the contract and a SB is worth it. Otherwise, 

Other than Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, or Lamar, who else would be a clear upgrade over him at this point?

Certainly no rookie in the 2023 class.

9 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

If the Eagles have a 66% chance to win the division, how can the Cowboys have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl? That doesn’t make sense.

Eagles currently have a better record but Dallas looks like the better team. I’m the playoffs records don’t matter. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Idk but the cowboys schedule for the rest of the year they are likely favorites in every one of those games besides maybe the eagles and titans game. I’m guessing they likely are the favorite vs  the eagles since it’s at home  

vs. giants

vs. Colts

vs. Texans

at jags

vs. Eagles 

at titans 

at Washington. 

NFL is weird week to week.  

Cowboys should be favored in every game but they will probably lose 2 or 3.  

I thought there was zero chance GB could beat them last week and look what happened.

 

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I was once Hurts’ biggest critic and still point out all his flaws, but any rookie qb will be a massive step back for 2 years, assuming they don’t bust altogether.  Unless Rodgers wants to come to Philly, I don’t think any veteran that is reasonably available is going to do better.

 

Not so sure rodgers is the guy you want to go after at this point. If hurts isn’t the guy going forward, I’m guessing lamar is going to be on the table for the eagles. 

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Other than Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, or Lamar, who else would be a clear upgrade over him at this point?

Certainly no rookie in the 2023 class.

I think you're selling the 2023 QB class short.

Just now, 315Eagles said:

NFL is weird week to week.  

Cowboys should be favored in every game but they will probably lose 2 or 3.  

I thought there was zero chance GB could beat them last week and look what happened.

 

GB being desperate and in a must win situation. It’s why i think you get their best shot next week. GB tends to play up against Dallas and a desperate team can either play up or collapse. I suspect GB isn’t a collapse type of team. Might not be that good this year but they aren’t going to just give up. 

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Idk but the cowboys schedule for the rest of the year they are likely favorites in every one of those games besides maybe the eagles and titans game. I’m guessing they likely are the favorite vs  the eagles since it’s at home  

vs. giants

vs. Colts

vs. Texans

at jags

vs. Eagles 

at titans 

at Washington. 

All i know is you really want to win the division cause if you don’t you are the 5 seed and very likely facing SF or tampa bay on the road in the wild card round. 

Excluding the Eagles, it’s hard to see them losing more than 1 more game.

Excluding the Cowboys, I think the Eagles will drop 2 more games if they continue the way they are playing.  TEN, GB, and 2 against a Giants team that plays us tough.  That’s 4 games that could go either way right there.

I think the Eagles Cowboys game will determine the division and the 1 seed.  Steep drop off from a bye week to a wild card.

2 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

I think you're selling the 2023 QB class short.

Stroud is going #1, but by default.

Young is a midget.

Hooker just tore his ACL.

Van Dyke is a flop.

Richardson is way way too raw.

If Caleb Williams was in this draft class, I would say go all in, but he's not.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Not so sure rodgers is the guy you want to go after at this point. If hurts isn’t the guy going forward, I’m guessing lamar is going to be on the table for the eagles. 

Id take Hurts over Lamar without hesitation, even ignoring cost.

Rodgers…is complicated.  I wouldn’t go after him, wouldn’t even consider it.  But if NFL football would cease to exist after the 2023 season and they HAD to win the SB then…do I think he probably gives them the best shot when plugged into this offense of any remotely conceivable option?  Yep.

The smart thing to do at this point is to ride with Hurts until he gets too expensive, if that ever happens.  I’d continue to draft and groom qbs in the shadows so we’ve got some plug and play in house options ready to go if patience wears thin.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Excluding the Eagles, it’s hard to see them losing more than 1 more game.

Excluding the Cowboys, I think the Eagles will drop 2 games more games if they continue the way they are playing.  TEN, GB, and 2 against a Giants team that plays us tough.  That’s 4 games that could go either way right there.

I think the Eagles Cowboys game will determine the division and the 1 seed.  Steep drop off from a bye week to a wild card.

I tend to think the next 3 games will determine the division tbh. If the eagles go 3-0 it’s going to win it even if they lose to Dallas. If they go 2-1 then it’s gonna come down to that Dallas/eagles game on Xmas eve   eagles need to win it cause divisional record if the eagles lose that game and win the rest would be 4-2. if dallas doesn’t lose another divisional game and beats us it’ll be 5-1. Meaning any tie goes to Dallas. If we go 1-2 or 0-3 we aren’t winning the division imo. Can’t lose 2 of 3 to titans, giants and packers and expect to go to Dallas and win that game when frankly i think they are much better than all 3 of those teams and 2 of the 3 were at home  

i tend to think the titans can beat Dallas. Dallas is not good against the run defensively. were 29th as of today. Minnesota couldn’t exploit it cause they got down by so much. Titans can but they can’t find themselves down 10+. 

Just now, eagle45 said:

Id take Hurts over Lamar without hesitation, even ignoring cost.

Rodgers…is complicated.  I wouldn’t go after him, wouldn’t even consider it.  But if NFL football would cease to exist after the 2023 season and they HAD to win the SB then…do I think he probably gives them the best shot when plugged into this offense of any remotely conceivable option?  Yep.

The smart thing to do at this point is to ride with Hurts until he gets too expensive, if that ever happens.

Clearly need to tank for Caleb Williams lol jk 

7 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Stroud is going #1, but by default.

Young is a midget.

Hooker just tore his ACL.

Van Dyke is a flop.

Richardson is way way too raw.

If Caleb Williams was in this draft class, I would say go all in, but he's not.

No way Texans would deal the no. 1 pick if Caleb Williams was in this draft. 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I tend to think the next 3 games will determine the division tbh. If the eagles go 3-0 it’s going to win it even if they lose to Dallas. If they go 2-1 then it’s gonna come down to that Dallas/eagles game on Xmas eve   eagles need to win it cause divisional record if the eagles lose that game and win the rest would be 4-2. if dallas doesn’t lose another divisional game and beats us it’ll be 5-1. Meaning any tie goes to Dallas. If we go 1-2 or 0-3 we aren’t winning the division imo. Can’t lose 2 of 3 to titans, giants and packers and expect to go to Dallas and win that game when frankly i think they are much better than all 3 of those teams and 2 of the 3 were at home  

 

With how the Eagles have looked in recent weeks, I find 3-0 hard to imagine.  

Anyone else in here have a grandma ever say "Gee Manetti"?

Wife has never heard it before.

30 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I never like addressing RB, but I think it's time to do so.  

Gainwell and Scott just don't offer much of anything.  Gainwell is a fluid receiver and will slide through what the OL gives him, but that's it. 

Sanders is a good runner.  Not particularly tough, but not a scatback either...and has some nice moves, quickness.  Brings very little...no, nothing...in the passing game.  Also not worth the contract he'll want with the stats he's picking up behind this OL.  

I'd like to see a true "third down back."  Our passing game at the LOS sucks (I'm not blaming this one on Hurts).  We need someone besides Goedert...namely, a RB with some quickness that can catch a football and actually run with it.  And that RB needs to be paired with a balanced Sanders replacement who has some explosion in his game.  

We need 2 RBs, and have 5 draft picks.

One of the most economical things to do, may be re-signing Sanders.

Something I never really wanted to do because of his injuries. But, maybe that gets him a little cheaper. 

If he is discounted a bit, theres no better value o the market between his running ability and discounted contract.

Are we really going to take his money, and give it to a Josh Jacobs who also has injury issues? Wouldnt make much sense.

Or else, we are going to downgrade at the position for a way cheaper guy.

Might be best to keep him. And draft someone late like old man Rodriguez. Or even UDFA like the FB from NDSU for some throwback Alstott type runs.

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No way Texans would deal the no. 1 pick if Caleb Williams was in this draft. 

Agree, if Caleb Williams was in this draft, a 3rd of the league would be tanking to get the #1 pick.

10 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

With how the Eagles have looked in recent weeks, I find 3-0 hard to imagine.  

Yeah i feel that way too. I really think packers are going to give you their best shot on SNF. It’s gonna be a close game like the colts. It stinks that the following 2 weeks we face the titans and giants. It’s brutal 3 game stretch. Cowboys have us and then titans on the road.  i can see them probably having a letdown game or a hangover if they lose to us or beat us. If we manage to go 3-1 over the next 4 then i think everything is on the line for that Dallas game cause as much as i want Dallas to lose one of the next 4 i really don’t see it. I actually think the colts have the best shot but i do think Matt Ryan on the road with that pass rush it could get ugly. Imo giants, Texans and jags really have no shot especially after the amount of guys who got hurt for the giants today. So it’s likely win and you get the no. 1 seed and lose you are playing on the road in the wild card round probably in tampa or SF. Also unless Minnesota or the 3 seed gets upset you likely returning back to Dallas in the divisional if you lose or if Dallas wins the wild card round they’d be coming to Philly 

4 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Agree, if Caleb Williams was in this draft, a 3rd of the league would be tanking to get the #1 pick.

I think 2023 you are gonna see 1-2  teams doing that tbh. i could see the raiders moving on from carr and just tanking but wouldn’t really be tanking. Just would suck like now but without carr 

Scored way too early.

At least the Chargers still have three timeouts to try to get a field goal lol 

Offenses need to come up with creative ways to not score early. I know there is an inherit risk that you won't score at all, but giving a QB like Mahomes 1:40 is close to an automatic loss.

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Offenses need to come up with creative ways to not score early. I know there is an inherit risk that you won't score at all, but giving a QB like Mahomes 1:40 is close to an automatic loss.

True but the chiefs were down 3 if their top WRs and the chargers allowed kelce to beat them cause they just thought James could cover kelce. F that if I’m losing kelce isn’t beating me. Someone else has too 

I wonder what kind of trade package a team would have to put together to even get the chiefs to consider trading away Mahomes

44 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Id take Hurts over Lamar without hesitation, even ignoring cost.

Rodgers…is complicated.  I wouldn’t go after him, wouldn’t even consider it.  But if NFL football would cease to exist after the 2023 season and they HAD to win the SB then…do I think he probably gives them the best shot when plugged into this offense of any remotely conceivable option?  Yep.

The smart thing to do at this point is to ride with Hurts until he gets too expensive, if that ever happens.  I’d continue to draft and groom qbs in the shadows so we’ve got some plug and play in house options ready to go if patience wears thin.

Completely disagree. I’d trade Hurts and a 1st round pick for Lamar yesterday, without hesitation. But I agree that no 2023 rookie would come in right away and match Hurts’ value. 

9 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I wonder what kind of trade package a team would have to put together to even get the chiefs to consider trading away Mahomes

I don’t think I’d do it for 10 1st round picks (if I were the Chiefs)

15 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I wonder what kind of trade package a team would have to put together to even get the chiefs to consider trading away Mahomes

It doesn’t exist. You have a sure-fire first ballot Hall of Famer at the most important position in sports for the next 10+ years that gives you a chance to win the Super Bowl every year. You could have 20 first rounders and still not have a guarantee you get someone on his level. 

21 minutes ago, Dwide Schrude said:

I wonder what kind of trade package a team would have to put together to even get the chiefs to consider trading away Mahomes

I think Burrow/Chase and a couple of 1st might KC's attention.

2 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

I think Burrow/Chase and a couple of 1st might KC's attention.

Idk mahomes isn’t that proven to ask for all that….