1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Always thought Jets should have gone Fields with their pick. They probably should just hire me as their GM 

Who takes a RB with the number 2 overall pick...

I'm very disappointed with the offensive playcalling. It's either regressed big time or other teams have caught up to what we're doing and they're failing to adjust. I'm not sure how you go from the 1st half vs Dallas and completely neutralizing their "world beater defense" to what we've seen the last two weeks in such a short period of time.

Next time I see Gainwell getting a handoff on 3rd and short or AJ Brown sitting on the sideline for multiple critical downs in a row I'm going to lose my mind.

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup eagles are trending in the wrong direction at the wrong time of the year.

Where as you look at Dallas and they are rounding into form and playing really well.

The remaining division games will show what this team is made of.

Hopefully they rise to the challenge.

It’s not the wrong time of year. There’s 7 regular season games left. I said in September it was too early to judge anything. Even now, in a bit of a mid season slump (after raising expectations as high as they could be), we’re still the top dog in the NFC. Both in terms of record and overall play. 
 

The mighty Cowboys lost to a Packers team that was on the brink of complete collapse. They had a nice rebound win against a fraud team in Minnesota.

San Fran beat the colt mccoy led Cardinals…how come only Philly is degraded when we face back up trashy QBs?

Id rather we get our slump and injuries out of the way now, and still find ugly ways to win, so that when December comes and the division and conference are being fought for at the wire, we regain our early season momentum into a playoff bye. 
 

All this doom and gloom is crap, and frankly I’m sick of reading it. 

 

15 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Do you have NFL+? The Alt-22 and condensed game replays are really helpful to take a look at the game after the emotions burn off (not implying that is the case for you, it's a personal observation). The Eagles played much better than the score indicated, however, penalties, missed blocking assignments and turnovers scrapped too many drives. Hurts played well throughout the game, IMO. He passed the ball well and I would credit other teams D coordinators for better scheming to defend the RPO as a big part of its recent ineffectiveness. I don't see anything like what you are describing wrt to Hurts. He did have to scramble at times because of pocket pressure but it didn't look frenetic. I've watched the replay 4 times now and it shows mistakes at many positions beyond the QB. The other benefit of NFL+ is that you get to watch many other games in the condensed version. I find it to be a good context of comparison for QB play. In this light, Hurts continues to play very well.

Strange that you'd say that they played better than the score indicated, then highlighted three ways that they did NOT in fact play better than the score indicated.  Penalties, missed assignments and turnovers are examples of playing poorly.  So, you want us to scrap the bad play to focus on the good play?   Nah, that's not how it works.  On the whole, the Eagles played, at best, a C- game on Sunday.  Fortunately, they were playing a D+ team, so they scrapped out the victory.  But that game thrown out against Dallas, NYG, or even Washington doesn't end in a W for the Eagles.  

 

The entire TEAM needs to play better than they did Sunday if they want to go far in the playoffs, that includes Hurts, as well as everyone in the coaching staff.

19 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Curious if anyone can find the stats for Hurts on 3rd/4th and 8+. How many times does he actually throw the ball vs attempt to run for a first...which only goes for 5 yards. Penalties for sure helped at stalling drives, but Hurts put the stamp down on a few of those drives and killed them for good. You can clearly see his limitations as a QB depending on the situation. 3rd and 10 and redzone passing is not his friend. Its pretty glaring how conservative the coaching staff is once they get into the redzone, which isnt a total knock on them since we are good at running in the redzone...so they should lean more heavy on the run, but when you choose to run Boston Scott 3 times in a row over anything else it looks a little sketch. Speaking of which the clock management in the final minutes was down right abysmal and laughable.

2 things I want to say:

Taking this team 1 week at a time as best I can so I try not to come to any harsh judgements. I still believe if we are in position anything can happen.................with that said.........if we were fans of any other team and not the homers most of us are, we would be saying Eagles have a good chance to be 1 and done in the playoffs. Based off how we have been playing and not based off our record.

Second...about Hurts. As of right now I dont believe we should be thinking about a contract extension this offseason and we should let him play out his contract. Anything could happen of course and he could win the superbowl and all of that changes, but as of right now, no.

 

Not exactly what you are looking for but as close as there probably is out there. Passing is on left, rushing on right

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

It’s not the wrong time of year. There’s 7 regular season games left. I said in September it was too early to judge anything. Even now, in a bit of a mid season slump (after raising expectations as high as they could be), we’re still the top dog in the NFC. Both in terms of record and overall play. 
 

The mighty Cowboys lost to a Packers team that was on the brink of complete collapse. They had a nice rebound win against a fraud team in Minnesota.

San Fran beat the colt mccoy led Cardinals…how come only Philly is degraded when we face back up trashy QBs?

Id rather we get our slump and injuries out of the way now, and still find ugly ways to win, so that when December comes and the division and conference are being fought for at the wire, we regain our early season momentum into a playoff bye. 
 

All this doom and gloom is crap, and frankly I’m sick of reading it. 

 

Doom and gloom???

Eagles struggled against two crap teams and lost to a commanders team led by a QB who was sleeping on his couch a couple months ago.

Doesn't really Instill a lot of confidence, the cowboys didn't squeak out a win against a fraud vikings team, they annihilated them, the niners didn't squeak out an ugly win against a bad cardinals team they thoroughly beat them.

Like I said I'm not saying the eagles are doomed because the best a crap team by 1 point only scoring 17 I'm saying the late division games will be a big test and will show alot about this team.

Say they get smoked by the cowboys then split with the giants are you going to go confidently into the playoffs because they started 9-1

 

I think the problem with offense is over abundance of RPO's and teams picking up reads on it. RPO's work in limited situations or for short periods of time. Then teams eventually figure it out. Saw it with Chip. Saw it in 2018. Seeing it again. 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Doom and gloom???

Eagles struggled against two crap teams and lost to a commanders team led by a QB who was sleeping on his couch a couple months ago.

Doesn't really Instill a lot of confidence, the cowboys didn't squeak out a win against a fraud vikings team, they annihilated them, the niners didn't squeak out an ugly win against a bad cardinals team they thoroughly beat them.

Like I said I'm not saying the eagles are doomed bec

You realize Heinecke is 4-1 since he took over? Wash isn’t the trash team you think they are. 
 

We crushed the cowboys 3/4 quarters. You forget that?

We crushed the Vikings too. You forget that?

Colts playing under a new coach; often you see teams play emotionally and well after a mid season coach change…like Carolina for a few games.

Weve been worse in the last 2 games than we were in September, sure. The one loss we had we killed ourselves. We aren’t a perfect team and we def have weaknesses…but our strengths are still the class of the NFC until shown otherwise

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think the problem with offense is over abundance of RPO's and teams picking up reads on it. RPO's work in limited situations or for short periods of time. Then teams eventually figure it out. Saw it with Chip. Saw it in 2018. Seeing it again. 

Yeah, that’s why some of us have been clamoring for hurts to stay in the pocket and win with his arm. We’ve seen him be able to do it, and he’s gonna need to do it more often and more consistently. Doing so would also open up the RPOs that much more. Synergy brah

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Strange that you'd say that they played better than the score indicated, then highlighted three ways that they did NOT in fact play better than the score indicated.  Penalties, missed assignments and turnovers are examples of playing poorly.  So, you want us to scrap the bad play to focus on the good play?   Nah, that's not how it works.  On the whole, the Eagles played, at best, a C- game on Sunday.  Fortunately, they were playing a D+ team, so they scrapped out the victory.  But that game thrown out against Dallas, NYG, or even Washington doesn't end in a W for the Eagles.  

 

The entire TEAM needs to play better than they did Sunday if they want to go far in the playoffs, that includes Hurts, as well as everyone in the coaching staff.

The comment was in the context of Hurts but I should have made that more clear. They also scored 2 TDs in the 4th quarter to come back and win. I'd give that a B rather than a C- but my perspective is to see them succeed in some tough, pressure-filled games in order to be prepared for the playoffs. They had to score a TD with 4 minutes left and they did. That isn't diminished because of prior play int the game. They will likely have a slugfest where both teams are playing well in the playoffs and will need to do the same thing. Glad to see Hurts can do it. That is a big differentiator for QBs, IMO.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think the problem with offense is over abundance of RPO's and teams picking up reads on it. RPO's work in limited situations or for short periods of time. Then teams eventually figure it out. Saw it with Chip. Saw it in 2018. Seeing it again. 

The biggest problem with the offense right now is turnovers. Lost 3 possessions against Washington and 2 against Indy. That really skews the numbers.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

The biggest problem with the offense right now is turnovers. Lost 3 possessions against Washington and 2 against Indy. That really skews the numbers.

Turnovers are an issue, but the biggest challenge going forward is attacking the middle of the field without Goedert. The middle of the field has to be utilized to open up the offense. 

If this team can manage to hold on for the next 7 weeks, get the 1 seed, and not have any more significant injuries, they will be a serious SB contender.

Between now and the playoffs they will get Maddox, Goedert, and Davis back.

It will be a bit of a grind until then.

28 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Always thought Jets should have gone Fields with their pick. They probably should just hire me as their GM 

Fields stinks.  The sheep only think he’s playing well because he’s constantly running — which is one thing he can do.  Problem is, he’s not going to hold up to the punishment.  He’s already got a dislocated shoulder for his trouble 

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

You realize Heinecke is 4-1 since he took over? Wash isn’t the trash team you think they are. 
 

We crushed the cowboys 3/4 quarters. You forget that?

We crushed the Vikings too. You forget that?

Colts playing under a new coach; often you see teams play emotionally and well after a mid season coach change…like Carolina for a few games.

Weve been worse in the last 2 games than we were in September, sure. The one loss we had we killed ourselves. We aren’t a perfect team and we def have weaknesses…but our strengths are still the class of the NFC until shown otherwise

Cowboys with cooper rush you mean?

Whose saying the eagles aren't the class of the NFC right now? Surely not me.

I'm saying if they want to be contenders in the playoffs they need to play better, and we'll learn a lot with how they handle these last division games.

The giants aren't as good as their record, they remind me of chip kellys first year with the eagles, we'll see, whether they're as good as their record division games are always tough.

As for Dallas I don't care if Minnesota is a fraud team, the cowboys made them look like a pee wee team meanwhile eagles are struggling with Texans and colts.☹️

Like I said those division games as usual will be big.

Titans will be a huge test, their defense is tough and king Henry will be a huge test.

Cowboys can really run the ball as can the giants.l even though the giants run game is more scheme than  just lining up like the Titans and cowboys and smashing dudes.

I'm encouraged by the addition of Joseph and suh, was it a fluke or can they play like that consistently, also getting Davis back at some point will help.

Having said that I'm cautiously optimistic.

Eagles have looked too shaky the last few weeks for me to proclaim them Superbowl favorites.

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Fields stinks.  The sheep only think he’s playing well because he’s constantly running — which is one thing he can do.  Problem is, he’s not going to hold up to the punishment.  He’s already got a dislocated shoulder for his trouble 

He has no OLine and no WRs. Given his situation he’s been OK. 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Cowboys with cooper rush you mean?

Whose saying the eagles aren't the class of the NFC right now? Surely not me.

I'm saying if they want to be contenders in the playoffs they need to play better, and we'll learn a lot with how they handle these last division games.

The giants aren't as good as their record, they remind me of chip kellys first year with the eagles, we'll see, whether they're as good as their record division games are always tough.

As for Dallas I don't care if Minnesota is a fraud team, the cowboys made them look like a pee wee team meanwhile eagles are struggling with Texans and colts.☹️

Like I said those division games as usual will be big.

Titans will be a huge test, their defense is tough and king Henry will be a huge test.

Cowboys can really run the ball as can the giants.l even though the giants run game is more scheme than  just lining up like the Titans and cowboys and smashing dudes.

I'm encouraged by the addition of Joseph and suh, was it a fluke or can they play like that consistently, also getting Davis back at some point will help.

Having said that I'm cautiously optimistic.

Eagles have looked too shaky the last few weeks for me to proclaim them Superbowl favorites.

 

 

 

So when we beat the Cowboys with Cooper Rush, it doesn’t count.

But when the 49ers beat the cardinals with Colt McCoy, they’re a juggernaut. Got it.

Problem with the offense is sloppiness. Penalties and turnovers.  Self inflicted wounds that they weren't doing earlier this year.  Texans, Redskins and Colts have tried to limit offensive possessions for the Eagles and the Eagles have played into that by not having the same level of focus and sharpness to eliminate these types of mistakes. 

Just now, Next_Up said:

The comment was in the context of Hurts but I should have made that more clear. They also scored 2 TDs in the 4th quarter to come back and win. I'd give that a B rather than a C- but my perspective is to see them succeed in some tough, pressure-filled games in order to be prepared for the playoffs. They had to score a TD with 4 minutes left and they did. That isn't diminished because of prior play int the game. They will likely have a slugfest where both teams are playing well in the playoffs and will need to do the same thing. Glad to see Hurts can do it. That is a big differentiator for QBs, IMO.

Prior to those 2 TDs in the 4th quarter, they had scored a grand total of 3 points... that puts their grade up to that point at a Giant "F".  Only 1 TD in the 4th quarter is still an "F", because 10 points is also pathetic.  The best defense in the league is allowing only 16+ ppg.  10 points in a game is awful.  So, that's still an "F", but a higher "F" than before.   And even with that 2nd TD at the very end, they still left themselves vulnerable to being beaten at the end by a FG.  Against a better team, in the playoffs, 17 points is unlikely to get it done... and furthermore, the way they handled that last 2 minutes, left them open to getting beat like Buffalo did last playoffs.  

 

The final 4 minutes can't absolve the team of the crap fest of offense they put out there for the first 56 minutes.  That's why it is a passing grade... but barely.  They won... but barely.  They beat a team that was so bad this year that they fired their head coach 2 weeks ago.  They beat a team that's averaging only 15.7 ppg.  They held them to 16, not exactly some great feat of football there.  They didn't shut out the Greatest Show on Turf or anything.  I can't give that performance anything more than a C-.   The Eagles were averaging about 27 points and put up only 17.  That's not good enough for a B grade.

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He has no OLine and no WRs. Given his situation he’s been OK. 

well theres a bit of sunshine in that reply, you having a tubesteak covered in underwear for thanksgiving

16 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I think the problem with offense is over abundance of RPO's and teams picking up reads on it. RPO's work in limited situations or for short periods of time. Then teams eventually figure it out. Saw it with Chip. Saw it in 2018. Seeing it again. 

Yup, I can't imagine the eagles are going to come out and have their way with Micah Parsons again against the cowboys, I'm sure the coaches and Parsons will adjust to leaving him unblocked on RPOs.

Hopefully Siri and co can adjust as well.

 Seems the colts who have a really good run defense were all over the RPO game.

Hurts biggest run came on that scramble where he took off for 20+ and sanders averaged under 4 yards and it's not like when the eagles get in the playoffs they'll see a bunch of crappy defenses.

I'm not convinced hurts can be as successful without a heavy RPO game.

Only game I've seen it was against the Texans who played cover two all game and hurts sat in the pocket and delivered passes in face of rush.

That's a pretty small sample size.

 

 

6 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So when we beat the Cowboys with Cooper Rush, it doesn’t count.

But when the 49ers beat the cardinals with Colt McCoy, they’re a juggernaut. Got it.

I didn't say either of those...

Just now, Utebird said:

I didn't say either of those...

Don’t be so disingenuous. You proclaimed the 49ers throughly beat a Cardinals team (but left out the back up qb part).

I bring up us throughly beating a much better Cowboys team, and your response is "Cowboys with Cooper Rush you mean?”

Your hypocrisy knows no ends 

 

20 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

He has no OLine and no WRs. Given his situation he’s been OK. 

Chase claypool self proclaimed best WR in the league disagrees...😒

Having said that I like moody but he's a midget and fields with his Shakey accuracy needs bigger targets.

Lol