14 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

So according to you, there is ZERO superbowl contender teams in the league. ZERO

Umm didnt say that 

Said the eagles played like crap and if they want to be serious contenders they need to play better.

Would you agree with that?

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Do they ever explain what they base this off of? Hurts has been sacked 26 times this year (which already matches last year) and his time to throw is way down compared to last year, so I don't think he's to blame for the 21 other sacks. 

Also curious if they counted that strip sack against Mailata or not. Sure look like he messed up that assignment unless it was just a really bad play design. 

Sirianni has said that Sanders was supposed to make that block.  It wasn't on the oline.  

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t know that’s what I’d like to know. I’d love to know where he got the numbers from tbh. Is it PFF or just his film study or somewhere else. Feels like a couple weeks back Dickerson gave up a sack in a game so id like to know who’s saying it and how they are calculating it. 

I think Dickerson got beat bad in one rep against Washington but I can't recall if there was a sack. 

18 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

We're 7th in pts allowed, 2nd in yds allowed, and 4th in DVOA

Gannon is a soft weenie. 

5 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Sirianni has said that Sanders was supposed to make that block.  It wasn't on the oline.  

Sirianni should blame himself then

Auden Tate is the new Vandervelde 

10 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Sirianni has said that Sanders was supposed to make that block.  It wasn't on the oline.  

 

That's a failure in design then as for the majority of the play Mailata blocked no body.

Gonna be an awesome episode of Hard Knocks when Sean Kugler goes to the Donkey Show in Mexico City 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

But you did. 

Eagles beat the Colts and played like poop against the Redskins, and you think that makes them not a contender

Well the chiefs LOST to the Colts, Barely beat the Raiders(who blow) needed over time to beat the Chargers who arent going to make playoffs, so by your thinking, theyre not a contender

Bills lost to the Jets, the Vikings, and Dolphins, so clearly theyre not contenders

Vikings - got smoked by the Eagles, smoked by Dallas and barely beat a bad Packers team

 

SO ZERO SUPERBOWL CONTENDERS according to your thinking

You thinking I said something I didn't say doesn't make it so 

I mean I'm perfectly fine with posters calling me out and disagreeing with things I say, disagreeing with things I didn't say seems odd🤔

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

no

So  you think the way the eagles are currently playing they should be considered serious contenders?

If so I'd be interested to here why?

Happy Thanksgiving Panthers fans

 

38 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Redskins aren't not a crap team, eagles shouldn't have lost to them, super bowl contending teams don't get outworked in the trenches like the eagles did that game, never seen such a lopsided time of possession.

As for the colts they suck, is their D good, sure?

Yet Superbowl contending teams don't only beat them by 1 point after only scoring 3 points in 3 1/2 quarters.

If the eagles are serious about contending then they need to play better especially against inferior teams.

The commanders colts and Texans all of which they struggled with are all inferior teams.

Hopefully they can get right come playoff time, getting Davis and goedert will help barring not any other injuries to key guys 

It's surprising to me that eagles put up 3 stinkers in a row and I say they've struggled and you call me crazy.

You can't honestly think the eagles have looked good the last 3 weeks and anyone that thinks they have I would question their sanity.

 

 

So by that logic, you’re saying the Chiefs aren’t contenders?

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gonna be an awesome episode of Hard Knocks when Sean Kugler goes to the Donkey Show in Mexico City 

Wonder if ron mexico will be there???

2 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

So by that logic, you’re saying the Chiefs aren’t contenders?

Did the chiefs play the colts last week???

Henderson after being released. Things going well with the rams 

Actually would take a flier on him. He is solid as a pass protector and i actually think he’s a better receiving back than Scott and gainwell which isn’t saying much. Problem i don’t think he makes it to us in waivers 

 

2 hours ago, UndyTaker said:

Curious if anyone can find the stats for Hurts on 3rd/4th and 8+. How many times does he actually throw the ball vs attempt to run for a first...which only goes for 5 yards. Penalties for sure helped at stalling drives, but Hurts put the stamp down on a few of those drives and killed them for good. You can clearly see his limitations as a QB depending on the situation. 3rd and 10 and redzone passing is not his friend. Its pretty glaring how conservative the coaching staff is once they get into the redzone, which isnt a total knock on them since we are good at running in the redzone...so they should lean more heavy on the run, but when you choose to run Boston Scott 3 times in a row over anything else it looks a little sketch. Speaking of which the clock management in the final minutes was down right abysmal and laughable.

2 things I want to say:

Taking this team 1 week at a time as best I can so I try not to come to any harsh judgements. I still believe if we are in position anything can happen.................with that said.........if we were fans of any other team and not the homers most of us are, we would be saying Eagles have a good chance to be 1 and done in the playoffs. Based off how we have been playing and not based off our record.

Second...about Hurts. As of right now I dont believe we should be thinking about a contract extension this offseason and we should let him play out his contract. Anything could happen of course and he could win the superbowl and all of that changes, but as of right now, no.

 

I was curious and took a look at the past 3 games.

This situation presented itself 12 times:

3 & 12 - Incomplete Pass

3 & 11 - Sacked

3 & 8 - 9 Yard Completion

3 &10 - Scramble for 6 yards

3 & 9 - -1 yard pass to Gainwell

4 & 10 - Sack Fumble, Eagles recovered no 1st down

3 & 10 - 11 yard pass completion

3 & 8 - Sacked

3 & 8 - 9 Yard Completion

3 & 8 - 16 Yard Completion

3 & 16! - 8 Yard Gainwell Rush

3 & 15! - 14 Yard Rush, Fumble, Eagles recovered no 1st down

By my count they have 4 successes in converting over 12 attempts. Don't know how that compares with other teams, but being able to convert 33% of your 3rd and 8+ yards I feel is pretty solid considering the circumstances.

I have similar thoughts on the contract extension for him. I don't think he's a top 5 QB, but don't think he's a bottom 10 QB either. He has an elite OL protecting him and some nice weapons to throw to. Would the Birds be able to keep all of that together over the next 2-3 years if Hurts gets a big contract? If the Eagles were better at drafting and the defense wasn't so old, I wouldn't be so concerned about him taking up a big chunk of the salary cap.

49 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Which do you agree with most:

1. The Eagles have a good defense, all metrics back that up. ie turnovers, sacks, DVOA-which is top 5.

2. The Eagles defense isn't bad, but I still don't trust quite trust it. They've been inflated by playing bad QBs/teams and unsustainable turnover rate.

3. The Eagles defense isn't good. I don't care what the numbers say, the eye test shows their flaws.

4. I don't know what to make of the Eagles defense still one way or the other.

5. The Eagles defensive personnel is good but Gannon will not adjust his defensive play calling during a game to counter what is working against the defense. Gannon does not do enough with the defensive line and with run blitzing to disrupt the opponents running games.  He has to improve in that area.  Also, the secondary is good but not deep.  

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

You're reasonings of why the Eagles arent superbowl contenders(your words) can be applied to every team in the NFL

So you're either a hoagie mouth, negaelphia Eagles fan, or theres ZERO Superbowl contenders in the league

Never said they weren't Superbowl contenders 

Said if they played like they did the last 3 weeks they won't be 

The eagles the last 3 weeks have played pretty badly no???

After leading the league in TO ratio the last 3 weeks they are in the negative no?

Would you say teams that have a negative turnover ratio win Superbowls consistently or ever???

Are you satisfied with the way the eagles have played the last 3 games and think the way they have played is a blueprint to winning???

It would be nice if you'd actually argue what I actually said Instead of twisting yourself in pretzels to argue something I didn't say.

So here's a simple question.

Does watching the last 3 eagles games give you more or less confidence they can win the Superbowl this year?

 

8 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Happy Thanksgiving Panthers fans

 

Can't wait until they trade for Zach Wilson next year.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Can't wait until they trade for Zach Wilson next year.  

Trading for a Jets QB is a sure fire winner

Said no one

11 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Did the chiefs play the colts last week???

Is the super bowl played next week?

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

5. The Eagles defensive personnel is good but Gannon will not adjust his defensive play calling during a game to counter what is working against the defense. Gannon does not do enough with the defensive line and with run blitzing to disrupt the opponents running games.  He has to improve in that area.  Also, the secondary is good but not deep.  

That has become an urban legend here.

 

19 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

Happy Thanksgiving Panthers fans

 

I think darnold is not good but he was at least competent with his WRs last year before he got hurt and then massively declined after and when he returned from injury. 

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

That has become an urban legend here.

 

It’s not his second half adjustments. I pointed this out after the Washington game. The previous 3 games against Steelers, Texans and Washington was he needed an entire half to finally make the adjustments and getting them playing better. I thought this game he was quicker to adjust after the first drive of the game. He needs to be. We can’t afford halves of football before changing it up. 

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

So you think the way the Bills, Chiefs, and Vikings are playing they should be considered serious contenders?

nope, chiefs barely beat a team worse than the colts. But according to you that doesnt matter

Who said anything about any other team other than the eagles???

By the way chargers are better than the colts.

If I'm looking at hottest teams right now who look like contenders now not taking into account that could change next week I'm going Cowboys in the NFC and dolphins in the AFC.

Dallas can really run the ball and their pass rush is legit, they remind me of the giants back  when they had that super deep D line and we're smash mouth on O, they're going to be a problem but they'll probably choke because that's what they do, but they look really good right now.

Dolphins with their explosive passing game in a league that promotes explosive offense paired with a schematically good running game can win a shootout with the chiefs and cause a lot of problems for a good bills D that is missing a bunch in the secondary.

If I weren't an eagles fan and I hadn't watched any of their previous games ND just watched their last 3 I'd be asking my self how the heck are they 9-1 cuz they look like poop those last 3 games, If I watched just those last 3 games I'm definitely not putting any money down on them getting to the super bowl.

Pointing out the eagles have really struggled their last 3 games isn't being a negadelphian just  being a observant realist.

Like I said if they dont pull their heads out theyre not going anywhere except home early.☹️

They can play better and getting some guys back will help, even if they limp Into the playoffs if they can limp in and be healthy they have as good a shot as any other team in the NFC.

We'll see, the last 3 games don't give me much confidence.

 

 

Just remember, Howie told us before the season that it was still a rebuilding season. Only two years from 4-12

Putting things in perspective.

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s not his second half adjustments. I pointed this out after the Washington game. The previous 3 games against Steelers, Texans and Washington was he needed an entire half to finally make the adjustments and getting them playing better. I thought this game he was quicker to adjust after the first drive of the game. He needs to be. We can’t afford halves of football before changing it up. 

 

6 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Yep, although I think halftime is too late you can see, and watch the changes each week for the defense

Please realize that the adjustments you refer to didn't just happen at halftime.  Second half only is a very simple data point that is used to help illustrate that adjustments get made AT SOME POINT before the end of halftime.