4 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I played the ‘soccer with cars’ videogame with my nephew a few years back and I was astounded by what the professionals can do.

Rocket league. Fantastic game, super easy to learn the basics, near impossible to fully master, and the "pros” are just insanely creative and good. Good fun with friends and drinks too 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

He doesn’t get credit for drafting pro bowlers and all pros on other teams 

Rasul wasn’t meant for the C1/C3, he’d be fine here now (as he is in GB) playing aggressively with constant safety help.

3 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Fantastic game, super easy to learn the basics, near impossible to fully master, and the "pros” are just insanely creative and good.

So, basically anything? What activity doesn't meet this definition? 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

So, basically anything? What activity doesn't meet this definition? 

Rock, paper, scissors? Siri might disagree.

6 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Rock, paper, scissors? Siri might disagree.

Hey, it's gotten us to 9 and 1. Nick's game theory has been hard to criticize this year. 

Just now, jsb235 said:

Hey, it's gotten us to 9 and 1. Nick's game theory has been hard to criticize this year. 

He wasn’t so sharp last game, but I’m sure he can sell me on some analytics, etc., to RPS.

6 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

He wasn’t so sharp last game, but I’m sure he can sell me on some analytics, etc., to RPS.

I think nick is way better than his coordinators, but it's really hard to tell who is the issue from the cheap seats. 

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

I think nick is way better than his coordinators, but it's really hard to tell who is the issue from the cheap seats. 

Well, some things like going for it on 4th and 10 or wasting a valuable TO on the fake sneak thing are definitely on him.  Others like the strange personnel usage are ultimately on him (i.e., Gainwell/Scott during $ time, 13 personnel with Smitty/AJ off the field), little things like having Miles block a DE on a shot play probably aren’t on him but that’s the job.

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

How bout this Shocker, keep talking about it.  

Watching esports is probably more entertaining than watching soccer.  

Particularly if PartinG’s Stalker micro game is on point

58 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

So, basically anything? What activity doesn't meet this definition? 

You obviously don’t play video games. Or have never heard of something called a steep learning curve. 

1 hour ago, Waiting4Someday said:

I played the ‘soccer with cars’ videogame with my nephew a few years back and I was astounded by what the professionals can do.

Boston Scott is a professional 

 

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

You overlooked Jordan Poyer First-team All-Pro (2021), Beau Allen and Rasul Douglas Pro Bowl alternate (2021)

Not to mention the fact that Bennie Logan was introduced at halftime of a game this season as an "Eagles great" player of the past. (I laughed.) So he must have been a star too!

12 hours ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don’t get the whole draw thing in the first place. Is the sport not popular enough to command airtime for additional overtime? 
 

I genuinely believe it’s a reason why hockey and soccer aren’t more popular in the US. They are content with noncommittal finishes; the last 2-3 hours suddenly become a complete waste of time

At this point it may actually be cultural differences. I do find that in Europe winning is not the only thing that is interesting. Obviously a 0-0 is the worst outcome, as watching good defense kinda sucks but most people would enjoy a hard fought 4-4 iE. The favorites obviously less so than the underdog but still. This whole `only winning matters‘ may indeed be an american thing after all.

42 minutes ago, Infam said:

At this point it may actually be cultural differences. I do find that in Europe winning is not the only thing that is interesting. Obviously a 0-0 is the worst outcome, as watching good defense kinda sucks but most people would enjoy a hard fought 4-4 iE. The favorites obviously less so than the underdog but still. This whole `only winning matters‘ may indeed be an american thing after all.

I’m open to differences in culture and nuance in a game that I don’t fully understand or appreciate.  But when there is almost 50% chance that any given game will be a tie instead of a decision and a huge chunk of single elimination games are decided by silly PK’s, which are far from an accurate representation of the game itself, they are doing something wrong.

 

This would be like nfl overtime in the playoffs being determined by Oklahoma drills.  

 

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’m open to differences in culture and nuance in a game that I don’t fully understand or appreciate.  

Like I said, I only watch football. So yeah, I prefer it that way too.

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But when there is almost 50% chance that any given game will be a tie instead of a decision and a huge chunk of single elimination games are decided by silly PK’s, which are far from an accurate representation of the game itself, they are doing something wrong.

I believe after playing 120 Minutes with not much break both teams have had ample chance to win. So if there has to be a decision something has to be done.. 

I doubt trying to translate the football solution of first score wins would work if it didn‘t for 120 minutes of play.

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This would be like nfl overtime in the playoffs being determined by Oklahoma drills.  

If you have a better idea I’m all ears.

Not that it matters much to me. I cheer for the Birds and that‘s it.

The NFL lets teams win in overtime without letting the other team pass the ball. That's dumb. The NFL still can't figure out what a catch is.
The NBA is beyond inconsistent with travelling calls, but has taken all physicality out of the game to the point that players are now flopping/diving for calls.
MLB games can take 4+ hours because of pitching changes, and there's never been less action on the bases.
The NHL will review offsides of plays that happened 4 minutes before a goal, as long as it's continuous action.

*Every* sport has something that's stupid.

40 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I’m open to differences in culture and nuance in a game that I don’t fully understand or appreciate.  But when there is almost 50% chance that any given game will be a tie instead of a decision and a huge chunk of single elimination games are decided by silly PK’s, which are far from an accurate representation of the game itself, they are doing something wrong.

 

This would be like nfl overtime in the playoffs being determined by Oklahoma drills.  

 

Nah.  More like an overtime NFL game starting with both teams at the opponents’ 25 yard line, best out of 5 scoring opportunity.

Although not "perfect” penalty kicks are definitely a part of the game of soccer.  They occur during games and are practiced quite a bit.  They are not a "given” for the kicking team (very high pressure situation and most World stage goal keepers are much better now - than ever in history - at defending them) . 

What a game!

My 'Noles speared the evil 'Gators.  Richardson is heck of an athlete, but I don't see an NFL QB. I hope Howie doesn't go "Gator on us and draft him.

 

31 minutes ago, Desertbirds said:

What a game!

My 'Noles speared the evil 'Gators.  Richardson is heck of an athlete, but I don't see an NFL QB. I hope Howie doesn't go "Gator on us and draft him.

 

How did Verse do? Not a lot of defense seemingly.

40 minutes ago, RLC said:

The NFL lets teams win in overtime without letting the other team pass the ball. That's dumb. The NFL still can't figure out what a catch is.
The NBA is beyond inconsistent with travelling calls, but has taken all physicality out of the game to the point that players are now flopping/diving for calls.
MLB games can take 4+ hours because of pitching changes, and there's never been less action on the bases.
The NHL will review offsides of plays that happened 4 minutes before a goal, as long as it's continuous action.

*Every* sport has something that's stupid.

There are plenty of soccer purists that feel that PKs are an inadequate representation of the game for something that decides so many critical matches.  I realize there are arguments on the other side of that too.

The NBA should just change to rule book to add one extra step off the dribble.  They let everyone do it now anyway so just make it official.

37 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

How did Verse do? Not a lot of defense seemingly.

He's not 100%. Last night he had half a sack and two QB hits. He seemed to play the run OK.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I’m open to differences in culture and nuance in a game that I don’t fully understand or appreciate.  But when there is almost 50% chance that any given game will be a tie instead of a decision and a huge chunk of single elimination games are decided by silly PK’s, which are far from an accurate representation of the game itself, they are doing something wrong.

 

This would be like nfl overtime in the playoffs being determined by Oklahoma drills.  

 

I think it's closer to 25%, maybe even less. But I do agree with you that PKs are an awful way to end games. A much better method would be to extend extra time to two 25 minus periods, with 4 additional subs per team, and each side playing with 10 men in the first period, and then 9 men in the second. That should ideally open things up and allow the more talented players to take control of the game and create more scoring opportunities. Bringing back golden goal would help but you don't see a lot of games where both teams score equally in extra time so I'm not sure that helps all that much.

Other changes I'd make to the game would be to implement a rule similar to the over and back rule in basketball. Teams maintaining possession by passing from deep in opponent's territory all the way to their own center backs on their own half of the field may be "tactical" in the traditional sense, but it makes for a very boring sport to watch for outsiders or casual observers. 

You'd need 2 additional lines like the blue lines in hockey, so that crossing two lines toward your own goal is considered "over and back" and the result would be a free kick given to the other team at mid field. Aside from that, harsher penalties for simulating injuries, but that can be tricky to enforce since I've played enough soccer to know that sometimes collisions that look awful aren't that painful, meanwhile the ones that graze you can be debilitating. Heck, even the NFL is having issues with flopping for a flag and faking injuries to stop play.

On 11/24/2022 at 8:23 PM, bpac55 said:

Point I was trying to make was that letting Nelson Agholor walk in FA made WR a need in the draft and forced Howie to try to plug a hole.  Even if Nelson wasn't a stud, bringing him back takes the pressure off of Howie to try to fill the need in the draft, especially the first round.  

I don't know the cupboard was pretty bare even if agholor had been re signed.

 

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Nah.  More like an overtime NFL game starting with both teams at the opponents’ 25 yard line, best out of 5 scoring opportunity.

Although not "perfect” penalty kicks are definitely a part of the game of soccer.  They occur during games and are practiced quite a bit.  They are not a "given” for the kicking team (very high pressure situation and most World stage goal keepers are much better now - than ever in history - at defending them) . 

My biggest issue with deciding a game on PKs is that it takes defense completely out of the equation.