2 hours ago, RLC said:

We're first in the NFL in wins. We're trying to win now. We're going to have low snap counts.

If we're 4-6, then we're not signing Joseph/Suh to replace Davis, we're getting a street FA. We're probably playing Dean over White. Bad teams force rookies onto the field. 

 

The low snap count is by design. Has nothing to do with wins. Suh/Joseph has nothing to do with it. It’s not like some rookie DT isn’t playing over them. The point remains we have no idea what we have in this draft class yet and the future will determine if it’s good or bad.

1 hour ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I don’t want to be the Debbie downer, but if Mcnabb is the greatest QB in your franchise’s history, then you’ve never had a great QB.

What Jalen is doing is impressive, but it’s wasn’t the biggest mountain to climb

McNabb gets the nod because of his longevity here and the team success but from a talent perspective I'm more inclined to lean toward Randall. But the Eagles have historically been rather pedestrian at the QB position.

On the other hand some great QBs have had short stints in Philadelphia ... such as HOF Sonny Jurgenson who was with the Eagles for 6 years at the beginning of his career. HOF Norm Van Brocklin at the end of his career who was the QB for the 1960 championship. 

Tommy Thompson was the QB for the 48 and 49 championships but the bus driver was Steve Van Buren.

Eagles fans do have many great QB moments though - McNabb 4th and 26, McNabb 16 second scramble and pass to Freddie. Randall Cunningham bounces off Carl Banks and throws TD to Jimmy Giles. Randall ducks under Bruce Smith in his endzone and throws TD pass to Arkansas Fred Barnett.  (many Randall Moments). Adrian Burk 7 TD game. Nick Foles 7 TD game. These are just a few.

 

 

@LeanMeanGM

Packers 28

Eagles 24

** bold prediction- everyone’s pissed

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

He probably already got it "operated" on by the same guy that "immunized" him.

Rodgers undergoing successful "surgery" this off-season:

 

 

@LeanMeanGM

Birds 27

Packers 17

Bonus: Slay gets his pick

12 hours ago, Eagle1ne said:

Agree there. Just let the damn scouts pick the players. If the scouts pick duds, change the scouts. 

They just had to use a 2nd rounder on a center that wasn't expected to play year 1. Year two isn't enough a given. They could've added more to this defense, trade back or even went RB if they chose. Looking at the crop of centers in this draft, I don't see Jurgens as some guy that's so good that we just had to have last year, in round frikn 2. Easily could've waited until this year.

Howie just loves to burn these second rounders on fliers, over drafting players, injured guys, odd positions... Just all kinds of weird crap and it hurts the team. Boggles my mind. I'm hoping some of the new FO guys that are here can talk him out of some of his smarter than everyone else decisions. 

Side note, what Joe Douglas did in three off seasons for that Jets defense is awesome. 

It will be interesting to see if the Texans do an honest head coaching search after this season, now that they’re completely free of the Deshaun Watson debacle.  I’m not convinced both the Culley and Lovie Smith hires weren’t somehow related to it.

Gannon got two interviews with them last offseason, and it was supposedly coming down to him or Josh "Jeff Saturday” McCown (?) before they settled on Lovie.

3 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It will be interesting to see if the Texans do an honest head coaching search after this season, now that they’re completely free of the Deshaun Watson debacle.  I’m not convinced both the Culley and Lovie Smith hires weren’t somehow related to it.

Gannon got two interviews with them last offseason, and it was supposedly coming down to him or Josh "Jeff Saturday” McCown (?) before they settled on Lovie.

If the Texans go "one and done" again with their HC, Caserio should be fired.

5 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

They just had to use a 2nd rounder on a center that wasn't expected to play year 1. Year two isn't enough a given. They could've added more to this defense, trade back or even went RB if they chose. Looking at the crop of centers in this draft, I don't see Jurgens as some guy that's so good that we just had to have last year, in round frikn 2. Easily could've waited until this year.

Howie just loves to burn these second rounders on fliers, over drafting players, injured guys, odd positions... Just all kinds of weird crap and it hurts the team. Boggles my mind. I'm hoping some of the new FO guys that are here can talk him out of some of his smarter than everyone else decisions. 

Side note, what Joe Douglas did in three off seasons for that Jets defense is awesome. 

This seems like a weird thing to complain about lately. Since 2019 our 2nd round picks have been Sanders, Hurts, Dickerson and Jurgens. JJaw was the only one that was bad. We obviously picked Jurgens to learn behind Kelce (who was a large proponent behind the pick) before he retired. Considering how pivotal center play is to our offense, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with a rookie coming in and hoping they hit the ground running.

I can get behind not putting enough emphasis into the defense and hoping on mid to late rounds picks to hit to solidify the defense but the players they've picked lately aren't bad in the 2nd. I'd complain more about their tendency to whiff on WR which has caused us to overinvest. The Reagor and JJaw picks really hurt us.

5 minutes ago, RLC said:

If the Texans go "one and done" again with their HC, Caserio should be fired.

Not a chance.  Caserio walked into an absolute disaster that BOB was allowed to create; he was left with no starting QB, no capital to trade for one, and no draft pick before #67 in his first draft.

His drafts so far have had good returns.  If he’s allowed to hire a real head coach this offseason they have a chance to build something.  If he’s not, then he should quit.

50/year for Hurts?

Better hope we win this season, because we won't sniff a SB if that's the contract he gets.

9 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Not a chance.  Caserio walked into an absolute disaster that BOB was allowed to create; he was left with no starting QB, no capital to trade for one, and no draft pick before #67 in his first draft.

His drafts so far have had good returns.  If he’s allowed to hire a real head coach this offseason they have a chance to build something.  If he’s not, then he should quit.

His two coaching hires were Lovie Smith and David Culley. His first ever draft pick was Davis Mills. 

5 minutes ago, Swoop said:

50/year for Hurts?

Better hope we win this season, because we won't sniff a SB if that's the contract he gets.

It will be interesting to see who the first organization will be who:

a) wins a Super Bowl with a QB on a league-high contract

b) waves goodbye to a QB due a league-high extension and follows the model of building the roster outside of QB to contend 

13 minutes ago, RLC said:

If the Texans go "one and done" again with their HC, Caserio should be fired.

Lovie Smith is one of the biggest head coaching frauds in recent history.  He hit his peak with the Bears when he reached the Super Bowl.  His record there was 81-63.  Respectable, especially considering his quarterbacks were Rex Grossman, Brian Griese, Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler.  Cutler was the best of the bunch but talk about a rag tag group of QBs to win with.

Since then, he's been nothing short of terrible. 

With Tampa Bay, he went 8-24 and followed that up by going 17-39 at Illinois and for an overall winning percentage of 39% covering 7 seasons.  He's now currently 1-8 with the Texans.  So over his last 97 games his record is 26-71, a winning percentage of 36%.  

Lovie Smith was brought in to a bad situation for what I'm guessing might have been the wrong reasons.  I think he'd thrive as a DC again and there's nothing wrong with that.  Some guys are just built for different roles.  Jim Johnson was a helluva DC but I don't think he would have made a great HC.  

I'd argue that if the Texans keep Smith that Caserio should be fired.  

5 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

It will be interesting to see who the first organization will be who:

a) wins a Super Bowl with a QB on a league-high contract

b) waves goodbye to a QB due a league-high extension and follows the model of building the roster outside of QB to contend 

B would be the Redskins, no?

Been running a little behind on the football stuff. Hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving.

Some odds and ends...

-- Interesting that all 3 major midseason DL additions played multiple seasons in the NFC North. Wonder if that has much of an impact this week.

-- On my looooong drives to and from my hometown, I listened to at least 4 different Eagles podcasts from this week. What came up multiple times was whether the Eagles run-dominant game winning drive last week was an indictment on Hurts' ability to win from the pocket.

I think we have to be careful with this narrative. The problem with 2021 Hurts was that we didn't know whether he COULD win from the pocket. We've seen the 2022 version do just that, and now it comes down to what it takes each time to win, which they did against the Colts.

-- I think David Shaw is what the NFL thought Matt Rhule was. I wonder if he goes to TV in 2023 and jumps to the NFL in 2024. In the right org (i.e., one that influences him to be more aggressive on 4th down), he could be a difference maker.

4 minutes ago, RLC said:

His two coaching hires were Lovie Smith and David Culley. His first ever draft pick was Davis Mills. 

And?  Like I’ve already said, Mills was a #67 overall pick.  What was he supposed to do, continue with Tyrod?  Mills was already better than him after 3 starts.  Mills has performed better as a #67 overall pick with no talent around him than Zach Wilson has as a #2 overall pick surrounded by first round WR picks.  Should Joe Douglas be fired??

What Caserio needs to do is insist on more autonomy.  The Culley and Smith hires leads me to believe he hasn’t had it so far.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

B would be the Redskins, no?

I think the story was they tried as best they could to extend Cousins long-term, but Kirk got to a point where he refused to sign and walked away.  Can’t recall where I read that, though.

 

19 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Been running a little behind on the football stuff. Hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving.

Some odds and ends...

-- Interesting that all 3 major midseason DL additions played multiple seasons in the NFC North. Wonder if that has much of an impact this week.

-- On my looooong drives to and from my hometown, I listened to at least 4 different Eagles podcasts from this week. What came up multiple times was whether the Eagles run-dominant game winning drive last week was an indictment on Hurts' ability to win from the pocket.

I think we have to be careful with this narrative. The problem with 2021 Hurts was that we didn't know whether he COULD win from the pocket. We've seen the 2022 version do just that, and now it comes down to what it takes each time to win, which they did against the Colts.

-- I think David Shaw is what the NFL thought Matt Rhule was. I wonder if he goes to TV in 2023 and jumps to the NFL in 2024. In the right org (i.e., one that influences him to be more aggressive on 4th down), he could be a difference maker.

Shaw rode the wave of Luck and Harbaugh as long as he could but eventually got found out he isn't a good coach 

19 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think the story was they tried as best they could to extend Cousins long-term, but Kirk got to a point where he refused to sign and walked away.  Can’t recall where I read that, though.

They would be the franchise to do something ass backwards, so the story fits 

Cursed franchise 

1 hour ago, bitbased said:

This seems like a weird thing to complain about lately. Since 2019 our 2nd round picks have been Sanders, Hurts, Dickerson and Jurgens. JJaw was the only one that was bad. We obviously picked Jurgens to learn behind Kelce (who was a large proponent behind the pick) before he retired. Considering how pivotal center play is to our offense, I don't think I'd feel comfortable with a rookie coming in and hoping they hit the ground running.

I can get behind not putting enough emphasis into the defense and hoping on mid to late rounds picks to hit to solidify the defense but the players they've picked lately aren't bad in the 2nd. I'd complain more about their tendency to whiff on WR which has caused us to overinvest. The Reagor and JJaw picks really hurt us.

The receiver debacle is a whole other subject that I figured everyone agrees with and been spoken about a lot.  Howie did get lucky Dickerson is staying healthy but I was not a fan of going center last year where they did. Especially considering the defense is always lacking. They tried to save it by snagging Dean when he dropped to round 3, but he did drop there for a reason. 

51 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I think the story was they tried as best they could to extend Cousins long-term, but Kirk got to a point where he refused to sign and walked away.  Can’t recall where I read that, though.

I thought Snyder didn’t think he was good enough.