3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Or, the Eagles traded:

-2016 1st, pick 8

-2016 3rd

-2016 4th

-2017 1st

-2018 1st

-2019 2d

-2020 1st

for

- 2023 1st round pick 

-2024 2nd round pick

- Trade up ammo for DeVonta Smith (3rd rnd pick)

- Trade ammo for AJ Brown (3rd rnd pick)

- Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - 2025 7th rnd pick

 

I look at this as a loss. Anytime you have 4 1st round picks out and only 1 coming back.  That’s not good. 

All those transactions are not trades.  You are conflating drafting and trading.

12 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Not sure if posted, but we have updated jersey numbers…

Book 19

Blankenship 32

Calcaterra 81

Sermon 34

Allen 82

Brooks 30

Tom 67

32 is a nice get for Blankenship.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I get that.   I the comparison is draft capital in vs out though.  It’s completely lopsided.   
 

Who knows what howie will do with these picks. 

That is a legitimate concern.

All teams have that same concern 

People getting upset at peters are incredibly stupid

Only 6 weeks until The Eagles are 5-0 heading into the week 6 SNF match-up against the Cowboys and the nation is all caught up in Eagles, and more specifically Jalen Hurts, fever. The blog all full blown converters to bring Jalen Hurts believers by this point is all hyped to watch the promo NBC shot to open the game where Jalen and other Eagles recreate the Willie Beaman music video. 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Only 6 weeks until The Eagles are 5-0 heading into the week 6 SNF match-up against the Cowboys and the nation is all caught up in Eagles, and more specifically Jalen Hurts, fever. The blog all full blown converters to bring Jalen Hurts believers by this point is all hyped to watch the promo NBC shot to open the game where Jalen and other Eagles recreate the Willie Beaman music video. 

 

 

 

You are setting yourself up for a lot of disappointment, or trolling.  I lean toward the later.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Definitely didn’t say that about Winston Justice 

Thing with justice was he was plenty athletic, just weak at the point sloppy technique, apathetic play, zero core strength or explosion.

Where as you look at guys like peters and Andrews, they were explosive strong athletes.

I see some justice in Dillard, Dillard is a pretty good athlete he moves well has quick feet but lacks pop brute strength and explosion.

 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

You are setting yourself up for a lot of disappointment, or trolling.  I lean toward the later.

You responding means he wins. And it works every time 

22 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Only 6 weeks until The Eagles are 5-0 heading into the week 6 SNF match-up against the Cowboys and the nation is all caught up in Eagles, and more specifically Jalen Hurts, fever. The blog all full blown converters to bring Jalen Hurts believers by this point is all hyped to watch the promo NBC shot to open the game where Jalen and other Eagles recreate the Willie Beaman music video. 

 

 

 

What a strange post. The video, the provoking trolling. All of it.

 

This 70-year-old legend played at the Taylor Hawkins Tribute.

2 hours ago, downundermike said:

Dude, fans are loyal to teams, players are loyal to $$$$

Oh I know.  He can do what he wants.  

I think some look at him as an all time great Eagle but I don't think he gives a **** about that as much as some fans do.  He cares about getting money, especially at this point in his career, and that's fine.

7 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

This 70-year-old legend played at the Taylor Hawkins Tribute.

When I'm 70 I'll be lucky if I don't have a drool cup, she's pretty badass!

4 hours ago, Han Solo said:

Perine 36

I wonder why Covey hasn't switched yet (18 is available)

Would you switch to the number that had the most hated Eagle in the last 2 years? 

Me no thinks so. 

4 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Or, the Eagles traded:

-2016 1st, pick 8

-2016 3rd

-2016 4th

-2017 1st

-2018 1st

-2019 2d

-2020 1st

for

- 2023 1st round pick 

-2024 2nd round pick

- Trade up ammo for DeVonta Smith (3rd rnd pick)

- Trade ammo for AJ Brown (3rd rnd pick)

- Chauncey Gardner-Johnson - 2025 7th rnd pick

 

I look at this as a loss. Anytime you have 4 1st round picks out and only 1 coming back.  That’s not good. 

This is, of course, nonsense.

2016 1st (8) and 2017 1st brought back 2016 1st (2).

2018 1st (32) brought back two #2s (2018 and 2019) and a 4th.

2019 1st (25), a 4th and a 6th brought back 2019 1st (22)

2020 1st was not traded.

2021 1st was traded, twice. From 6 to 12 and from 12 to 10. Chose Smith. The #6 pick brought back #12 and a 2022 1st. The #12 pick plus a 3rd brought back a 1st (10).

2022 1st (15) was traded, with late round picks for 1st (13), drafted Jordan Davis. The other 2022 1st was traded, with a 3rd, for AJ Brown.

I count seven #1s going out and five coming back, with an extra #1 in 2023 and an extra #2 in 2024.

Now if you want to criticize the draft selections, that's quite another issue. There's plenty of grist for that mill. But it's not four out and one back.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

All those transactions are not trades.  You are conflating drafting and trading.

How do you figure?   The initial tweet was talking about what Howie has been able to get in return for Carson, Reagor and JJAW. 

I’m simply showing what the resources used to acquire Carson, Reagor and JJAW compared to the return. 
 

Carson Wentz cost: two 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th.  
Return: 1st, 2nd. 

JJAW cost: 2nd. Return: Ugo Amadi

Reagor cost: 1st. Return:  7th, Conditional 4th. 
 

I understand the muppet tweet was showing that pieces of each were used to acquire Smith, Brown and CGJ trying to make it look like Howie is a genius.  I’d argue it shows what a failure he’s been at drafting.  Forgetting Carson Wentz and that situation, if Reagor and JJAW were even competent WR instead of enormous busts, they could have used their last 2 1st round picks on other positions and saved $100 million. Check that, I’ll include Wentz for this because at the time the Eagles ate $34 million to get rid of him, the largest dead cap hit at the time.  

4 minutes ago, justrelax said:

This is, of course, nonsense.

2016 1st (8) and 2017 1st brought back 2016 1st (2).

2018 1st (32) brought back two #2s (2018 and 2019) and a 4th.

2019 1st (25), a 4th and a 6th brought back 2019 1st (22)

2020 1st was not traded.

2021 1st was traded, twice. From 6 to 12 and from 12 to 10. Chose Smith. The #6 pick brought back #12 and a 2022 1st. The #12 pick plus a 3rd brought back a 1st (10).

2022 1st (15) was traded, with late round picks for 1st (13), drafted Jordan Davis. The other 2022 1st was traded, with a 3rd, for AJ Brown.

I count seven #1s going out and five coming back, with an extra #1 in 2023 and an extra #2 in 2024.

Now if you want to criticize the draft selections, that's quite another issue. There's plenty of grist for that mill. But it's not four out and one back.

You totally missed the point.  See my above post.   I was comparing the  initial investment in Wentz, Reagor and JJAW vs the immediate return.  

57 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Only 6 weeks until The Eagles are 5-0 heading into the week 6 SNF match-up against the Cowboys and the nation is all caught up in Eagles, and more specifically Jalen Hurts, fever. The blog all full blown converters to bring Jalen Hurts believers by this point is all hyped to watch the promo NBC shot to open the game where Jalen and other Eagles recreate the Willie Beaman music video. 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

You totally missed the point.  See my above post.   I was comparing the  initial investment in Wentz, Reagor and JJAW vs the immediate return.  

Repeat after me

I think it’s very possible we start the first games hot and the media goes in a frenzy. 

1 minute ago, Infam said:

I think it’s very possible we start the first games hot and the media goes in a frenzy. 

Or we can crap the bed and the media goes in a frenzy

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

How do you figure?   The initial tweet was talking about what Howie has been able to get in return for Carson, Reagor and JJAW. 

I’m simply showing what the resources used to acquire Carson, Reagor and JJAW compared to the return. 
 

Carson Wentz cost: two 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th.  
Return: 1st, 2nd. 

JJAW cost: 2nd. Return: Ugo Amadi

Reagor cost: 1st. Return:  7th, Conditional 4th. 
 

I understand the muppet tweet was showing that pieces of each were used to acquire Smith, Brown and CGJ trying to make it look like Howie is a genius.  I’d argue it shows what a failure he’s been at drafting.  Forgetting Carson Wentz and that situation, if Reagor and JJAW were even competent WR instead of enormous busts, they could have used their last 2 1st round picks on other positions and saved $100 million. Check that, I’ll include Wentz for this because at the time the Eagles ate $34 million to get rid of him, the largest dead cap hit at the time.  

Every team misses on draft picks, fans have perfect hindsight (fans who boast how brilliant they are judiciously bury their mistakes).

It comes down to the sum of moves, you may whiff on Dillard but if you hit on Mailata, guess what, you used a 1st and 7th to obtain a pro bowl level LT and a backup LT.

If you look at the Eagles roster:

starting QB, 2nd, backup 6th in trade

starting RB, 2nd, backup 5th, backup SFA

starting WR, 1st, starting WR trade of 1st, 6th, SFA

starting TE 2nd, backup TE, UDFA, backup TE 6th

LT, 7th, LG, 2nd, C 6th, RG, 3rd, RT 1st, backups 1st, 4th, 2nd, UDFA, UDFA

LDE 1st, NT 1st, RDE UFA, backups 1st, 3rd, 1st, 6th

OLBs  UFA, 4th, backups, 6th, 7th, 6th

ILBs UDFA, UFA, backups 3rd, 6th

CB  3rd in trade, UFA, 4th, 4th, 6th in trade, UDFA

S  SFA, 5th in trade, 4th, UDFA

This team is mostly built through the draft, Brown, Slay the two trades, and only 4 free agents (Bradberry, White, Hargrave, Reddick). SFAs and UDFA fill out the roster.

28 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

You totally missed the point.  See my above post.   I was comparing the initial investment in Wentz, Reagor and JJAW vs the immediate return.  

Ah, but you went far beyond that. Had you limited the scope I might have no issue. As long as we're on the limited scope, however, we sent two #1s+ for Wentz and got two #1s+ back, a 2nd overall in 2016 and a 1st from the Colts later on. That's two out and two back.

P.S. And it can't really be such a limited scope if you're including 2023 and 2024 draft choices, now can it?

4 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Every team misses on draft picks, fans have perfect hindsight (fans who boast how brilliant they are judiciously bury their mistakes).

It comes down to the sum of moves, you may whiff on Dillard but if you hit on Mailata, guess what, you used a 1st and 7th to obtain a pro bowl level LT and a backup LT.

If you look at the Eagles roster:

starting QB, 2nd, backup 6th in trade

starting RB, 2nd, backup 5th, backup SFA

starting WR, 1st, starting WR trade of 1st, 6th, SFA

starting TE 2nd, backup TE, UDFA, backup TE 6th

LT, 7th, LG, 2nd, C 6th, RG, 3rd, RT 1st, backups 1st, 4th, 2nd, UDFA, UDFA

LDE 1st, NT 1st, RDE UFA, backups 1st, 3rd, 1st, 6th

OLBs  UFA, 4th, backups, 6th, 7th, 6th

ILBs UDFA, UFA, backups 3rd, 6th

CB  3rd in trade, UFA, 4th, 4th, 6th in trade, UDFA

S  SFA, 5th in trade, 4th, UDFA

This team is mostly built through the draft, Brown, Slay the two trades, and only 4 free agents (Bradberry, White, Hargrave, Reddick). SFAs and UDFA fill out the roster.

Again. I’m not talking about all of Howie’s drafting. 
I was referring to the initial tweet talking about the return they got for Wentz, Reagor and JJAW.  Not sure why it’s that difficult to understand. 

the Eagles did not come out on top by trading those 3. 

Peters is one of my all time favorites ever simply for fighting those piece of ish Redskins I despise. Free pass from me, get your money.

36 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Would you switch to the number that had the most hated Eagle in the last 2 years? 

Me no thinks so. 

Disagree.  I'd think the fans would give you credit for the cleanse.