22 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

this year Luepke

NDSU right, I haven't watched him yet but I also wanted to see the OT (Mauch) who seems like a good ZBS fit from what I read.  Typically, these guys (FB/TE hybrids) are Day 3 picks - we are a bit short there at the moment, probably will change (moves to recoup a 4 and 5 would be nice).

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

So if a guy leads the league in INTs it's ok if he's divisive???

No one said anything about signing anybody else.

I used logic to refute your points that you don't agree doesn't mean they're not logical.

Like I said bro you take this place too serious chill out brah go smoke a joint ...😒

Please identify what divisive things he has done in his time here.

 

 

And back to the pot thing...  

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

NDSU right, I haven't watched him yet but I also wanted to see the OT (Mauch) who seems like a good ZBS fit from what I read.  Typically, these guys (FB/TE hybrids) are Day 3 picks - we are a bit short there at the moment, probably will change (moves to recoup a 4 and 5 would be nice).

yep. NDSU. Looks more like Alstott than Weaver. Not as fast as Weaver was for a FB. But can run with great power, and seems like he can catch a bit too. Maybe to not compare him to a HOF caliber player a better comparison than Alstott would be Kyle Juszczyk

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

More exactly, we'll see how he sets in as team specifically target him.  GB didn't get a chance to game plan against him... only against CJGJ.  Now it will be him, most likely.  And there's a bit of film on him now.  Let the adjustments begin.

Yup. That's my biggest concern. Luckily we are playing some pretty average to bad passing offenses coming up. 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

To prevent the Eagles from helping themselves. And GM's and Jenkins feelings is a moot point. All they are doing is claiming his rights. They can simply leave him on the reserve/retired list. 

Nobody does that or has in recent memory to my knowledge, if you can find a case where a team has signed a retired guy just to keep him retired so another team can't sign him I'd be  interested hearing about it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something here that sounds improbable.

Though as mentioned the moot point is that the saints control his rights even if he did come out of retirement in which case they'd have to release him at which point I can't see another team signing him just to keep him away from the eagles.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Please identify what divisive things he has done in his time here.

 

 

And back to the pot thing...  

Ummm I didnt say he was divisive so...?

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think hes obviously to blame. But I also wonder, how many guys did we actually keep on this roster JUST for special teams ability? I think we lack the Chris Maragos/Bryan Braman types on this roster.

In the past, Boston Scott has made this roster just because of returns. Same this year for Covey. So 2 of the guys who have made it based on special teams ability are returners, and they arent even good at it. Who is just here to cover kicks and punts? I dont think we focused there with personnel this year at all. 

It was destined to be a bit of a weakness.

BUT, it should still be better.

Kyron Johnson and Sean Bradley are supposed to be ST aces.  Epps was a core ST guy before being a starter. Agree, they haven’t gone out and signed a Brahman or Maragos type though.  

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Nobody does that or has in recent memory to my knowledge, if you can find a case where a team has signed a retired guy just to keep him retired so another team can't sign him I'd be  interested hearing about it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something here that sounds improbable.

Though as mentioned the moot point is that the saints control his rights even if he did come out of retirement in which case they'd have to release him at which point I can't see another team signing him just to keep him away from the eagles.

 

 

Ummm I didnt say he was divisive so...?

Deion Sanders

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Kyron Johnson and Sean Bradley are supposed to be ST aces.  Epps was a core ST guy before being a starter. Agree, they haven’t gone out and signed a Brahman or Maragos type though.  

Yeah... Kyron Johnson and Bradley.... not aces... Bad move there.

Im not gonna complain. I hated never having a 3rd or 4th safety who could actually play on the defense.

I like having backups who can contribute on the field. Ill deal with slightly worse coverage because of it. 

But I do believe the coach has a responsibility to do better with who he has got. We still have athletic LBs who should be getting to the ball.

I will say, it is well beyond time to replace Covey with Allen who looked incredible covering punts.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Deion Sanders

Speaking of Deion.   I was laughed by some on here at last year when I said he would be coaching a Power 5 team next year.  Colorado has offered him their job apparently. No way he goes there but he’s going to be at a Power 5.  

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Speaking of Deion.   I was laughed by some on here at last year when I said he would be coaching a Power 5 team next year.  Colorado has offered him their job apparently. No way he goes there but he’s going to be at a Power 5.  

College is far from an even playing field, if he can recruit that's important.

10 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yeah, funny how great players can get away with stuff lesser players can’t. 
 

And CGJ hasn’t been divisive at all, so far. Came in a bit cocky but has settled in pretty nicely from what I’ve seen.

But sure, keep pounding the table to replace 3 snaps a game from our 4th safety, longing for a guy that would be nearly impossible to sign, only because he used to play for us. Some logic

Never said CGJ was divisive.

You said Jenkins was I said CGJ was outspoken and you said he leads the league in INT.

As for the last part never said any of that either.

I simply said I'd take Jenkins over Wallace.

Wouldn't you???

So far the only reason you've come up with is be ause you think he's divisive.

At first you said he was too old, I showed you lots of safeties play past 35, you then said yeah but none of those guys retired then came back, another poster said weddle did, you then said weddle got hurt to which I responded Jenkins doesn't have much of an injury history, to which you replied he was divisive and outspoken to which I responded CGJ is outspoken to which you called me a bish to which I told you to go get lit to which you claimed I called CGJ divisive which I didn't and then you called me illogical and a couple other names.

But hey yeah keep saying g I said things I didn't then when you feel you're fine gi smoke that joint brah...😒

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Yeah... Kyron Johnson and Bradley.... not aces... Bad move there.

Im not gonna complain. I hated never having a 3rd or 4th safety who could actually play on the defense.

I like having backups who can contribute on the field. Ill deal with slightly worse coverage because of it. 

But I do believe the coach has a responsibility to do better with who he has got. We still have athletic LBs who should be getting to the ball.

I will say, it is well beyond time to replace Covey with Allen who looked incredible covering punts.

Agree all around.  Maragos was one of my favorite players though. He wasn’t bad in spot duty but also knew his role and excelled at it.  Brahman was a mad man. Some great ST guys over the years. 

Ike Reese

Mike Caldwell

Damean Douglas 

Rashad Cook

Bartrum, Dorenbos and Lavato have given the Eagles nearly 25 years of perfect long snapping too. 

As far as ST coverage goes, KR has been a bigger issue than PR so far.  A lot of that can be fixed by telling Elliott to kick for touchbacks.  Most PK should be able to get the ball into the end zone.  

If the conditions prevent it, kick the ball higher and shorter.  There are a lot more misadventures for the return team on those kicks than big returns.  

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Deion Sanders

Who signed Deion? Didn't he end up with the ravens???

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Agree all around.  Maragos was one of my favorite players though. He wasn’t bad in spot duty but also knew his role and excelled at it.  Brahman was a mad man. Some great ST guys over the years. 

Ike Reese

Mike Caldwell

Damean Douglas 

Rashad Cook

Bartrum, Dorenbos and Lavato have given the Eagles nearly 25 years of perfect long snapping too. 

Jason Short.

That dude was insane but fun to watch...

With broadcast crew assigned that that mean our game is starting at 1pm?

Was Davion Taylor a good special teamer? Might be worth a call up. On that note, I don’t think I’ve seen Dean make a single play of ST this year. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Was Davion Taylor a good special teamer? Might be worth a call up. On that note, I don’t think I’ve seen Dean make a single play of ST this year. 

Good question on both of them. Taylor has the athleticism to excel on ST. Not the best use of a 3rd rounder but if he can help there then great.  I haven’t heard Deans name once this year.  You’d think he would at least make a play or two. Let’s hope he can play on D. If not, yet another 3rd round blunder for Howie.  He really isn’t good at the middle rounds….or drafting defense. 

2 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Chargers signed him, or would have, but he wanted to go to the Raiders or back to the 49ers.

And to back up @LeanMeanGM Theres a reason why players  "come out of retirement" before the trade deadline and not after. 

IF you "un"retire prior, you can pick your trade partner or just go back to being retired if a trade isnt worked out

If you "un"retire after the deadline, your forced to go through wavers. 

And yes, GM's and Owners are spiteful and will pick up a guy to block other teams. or other foolish reasons

Titans game has been set since last Tuesday

We're waiting to hear if the Giants/Eagles game on the 11th gets flexed...which needs to be announced by tonight 

Good to know 👍

Having said that I'll stick to what I said 

I'd rather have a 35 year old Jenkins than a K von Wallace, whether or not that is plausible or possible may be a moot point but I think majority of the board and NFL teams would take a 35 year old Jenkins over k von Wallace.

Which is all I originally said.

14 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Who signed Deion? Didn't he end up with the ravens???

He wanted to play for Oakland. He got Washington to cut him so that if he could clear waivers, they could sign him. 5 teams (all AFC playoff contenders) put in a claim to block it and Chargers were awarded his rights. They left him on the reserve list so he never actually played for them. Then two years after that he came out of retirement again for the Ravens although I don't remember how they ended up with his rights, but it was before the trade deadline.

19 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Jason Short.

That dude was insane but fun to watch...

Yea, I love a good psychopath on ST. Braham was very similar  Maybe that’s the issue…we don’t have any crazy white guys on ST. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He wanted to play for Oakland. He got Washington to cut him so that if he could clear waivers, they could sign him. 5 teams (all AFC playoff contenders) put in a claim to block it and Chargers were awarded his rights. They left him on the reserve list so he never actually played for them. Then two years after that he came out of retirement again for the Ravens although I don't remember how they ended up with his rights, but it was before the trade deadline.

Gotta love the Washington team, never seen a team pay so many guys that were retired 

I think at one point they were paying Bruce Smith for something like 5 years after he retired and Mark carrier the Safety not the WR for something like 3 seasons after he retired 

They had a couple other guys too, I forgot that Deion ever played for them.

So was he officially retired when he wanted to play for the raiders or was he still in Washingtons active roster and just wanted to be released?

Having said that I'm not sure Jenkins has the clout Prime time did, and if he did then he wouldnt be as sucky as Toronto claims he is, which was the point I was trying to and obviously failed to make 🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Yea, I love a good psychopath on ST. Braham was very similar  Maybe that’s the issue…we don’t have any crazy white guys on ST. 

Heck Howie should scour TATE, plenty of those here...😉

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Ummm I didnt say he was divisive so...?

The bolded part of the question you wrote pretty much calls CJGJ divisive, as he's the guy leading the NFL in INTs.  So, if that wasn't what you intended, your message was muddled from your intent.

38 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah... white = unathletic = box safety.

The one play where he took a bad angle to Watson and got outran will define the type of player he is for many eagles fans for his whole career.

He reminds me of Rich Miano.