3 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Carson Strong lol

Is this like a word association thing.

Mack Strong...🤷‍♂️

50 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

I did too.  I noticed that the Eagles are really staggering their blocks on returns. Without much punting, I was focusing on KRs. They start turning and setting blocks at the 40 and mostly at the 35, with the blocks haphazard in every sort of direction.  Watch Green Bay and they are setting at the 30 back (much closer to the returner) and blocking directional to set holes. Much tighter blocking where the Eagles are still spread all over the field.   Ugh.  That’s bad coaching.  Imagine a run on offense where the blockers are spread across the field and 35 yards away from the runner.  

Punts are a different animal.  I may look at some past games to see how they are setting blocks on PRs.  

It seemed like Blankenship was the first one downfield for some of the kickoffs. It also looks that a bunch of other players arriving close to that time.  So when one of them misses they are all having to chase and take angles to catch the returner.  

11 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

You do realize QBs get hit in the pocket, right? You do realize that Hurts is either getting down or out of bounds in most of his runs, right? You do realize that when Mailata is letting pass rushers right through that if Hurts doesn't take off that he will both take a bad hit and take a loss for a negative play, right?  

And finally you do realize that you were completely wrong on Hurts hesidng into this year, right? 

Mahomes takes off a bunch too and no one even talks about it. Watch every KC game, he makes a lot hero ball throws and crazy irresponsible shuffle passes that would get chewed up on this board with critique. But hes Mahomes. Hurts is still a young QB and will evolve to not running as much as we go along here. And was for awhile. But with no Goedert the dynamic has changed. It's obvious. The coaching staff is encouraging him to make plays and that's what he's doing. He's taking what the offense is giving him and then some and overall avoiding the big hit because he's playing smart football. 3 interceptions all year and one of them was a total fluke on a bobble and another on a bomb. Let's talk about that!

4 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

????  Sorry I am none of these,   Just because I dont know who a person of minor celebrity status is.....  But calling me one for that might actually make you one.  

moron

 

môr′ŏn″

noun

1. A person who is considered foolish or stupid.
2. A person of mild mental retardation having a mental age of from 7 to 12 years and generally having communication and social skills enabling some degree of academic or vocational education. The term belongs to a classification system no longer in use and is now considered offensive.
3. A variety of salamander.

Never knew a moron was a variety of salamander 🤷‍♂️

Learn something newt everyday!

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Is this like a word association thing.

Mack Strong...🤷‍♂️

No Carson Strong was a cool story, and some people got fooled 😀loooooooool

2 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

agreed, just pointing out, no need to put him on IR... he could possibly play in a week or two. 

I think he ends up there. We still need to make a spot for Davis somewhere as well as Maddox, Goedert and Robinson all in the next two weeks. 

1 hour ago, hukdonfoniks said:

You can't use the last game to criticize Hurts for scrambling.  If you're being given the ungodly amount of space that Green Bay was giving him, you take that all day and you don't think twice.  

He went off for 157 yards    It would have been a crime for him NOT to take that.

For whatever he might still be lacking, Hurts is a million miles ahead of where he was last year.  Everyone said at the start this was going to go as far as he took it...the roster is stacked/he's got AJ and Devonta/best offensive line/vastly improved defense/he has no excuses/etc....and we're 10-1 and winning games in a bunch of different ways. 

 

I criticized Hurts for bailing out of the pocket too soon and for not stepping up in the pocket. It was nice he got the record and we won but I don't want the QB running that much

4 hours ago, RLC said:

Excellent watch. 

Bad Gannon coaching + bad TJ Edwards, who had another bad game. Play Nakobe Dean. 

Not sure that's better?

14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Have we talked about the Cam Jurgens usage this game?  Really interesting wrinkle to see him in there as an extra blocker. Guys still pops on the replays.

I think we're gonna see more and more of this going forward. 

I like the idea and on that particular play jurgens didn't get across his guy but I like how he finished him off after the play.

I think jurgens is an obvious choice In jumbo packages, wouldn't mind seeing him used as a FB in those situations.

 

10 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Have we talked about the Cam Jurgens usage this game?  Really interesting wrinkle to see him in there as an extra blocker. Guys still pops on the replays.

I think we're gonna see more and more of this going forward. 

You just know they have a goal line pass to Jurgens play in their back pocket they will eventually pull out. Guessing @ Dallas we see that wrinkle. 

2 hours ago, greend said:

To me Hurts is still showing promise but he has reverted to the old Hurts somewhat. We'll see how he does when he goes up against a few more winning teams. Seems like the tougher the competition the more he wants to use his legs, and of course D.G. being out doesn't help. 

Oh and I see you all let the trolls run wild in here now. 

Veejer used to be a great gatekeeper.

Now the people who try to run them off get suspended. 

We are at a disadvantage. The trolls are free to run wild. 

It's funny that Hurts probably saves about 3 sacks a game by avoiding the rush and not being a Wentz and play hero ball and people dismiss that. He's running too much. Saying they rather him sit in the pocket and take a hit so he doesn't run too much. Peeps dismiss all of his unguardable running talents that promote good team play. This league has changed. You have to be able to run some to be successful. The days of Tom Brady statue type QBs are done. Brady has a mediciocre offensive line and can't escape and now you see he isn't all of that. Rather have Hurts style. Gets you out of a lot of jams and plays smart football. Take it all day, with a few of his warts. Can't have your cake and eat it too. I want him to do what it takes to win. Throw out the stats geeks. 

3 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

It's funny that Hurts probably saves about 3 sacks a game by avoiding the rush and not being a Wentz and play hero ball and people dismiss that. He's running too much. I rather him sit in the pocket and take a hit so he doesn't run too much. Peeps dismiss all of his unguardable running talents that promote good team play. This league has changed. You have to be able to run some to be successful. The days of Tom Brady statue type QBs are done. Brady has a mediciocre offensive line and can't escape and now you see he isn't all of that. Rather have Hurts style. Gets you out of a lot of hams and plays smart football. Take it all day, with a few of his warts. 

Who were the two QBs that played in the superbowl last year?

21 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Have we talked about the Cam Jurgens usage this game?  Really interesting wrinkle to see him in there as an extra blocker. Guys still pops on the replays.

I think we're gonna see more and more of this going forward. 

I also found it interesting that Dillard was first off the bench to sub in at LG when Dickerson went out.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

I also found it interesting that Dillard was first off the bench to sub in at LG when Dickerson went out.

Yes at at first blush I thought he did well 

3 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Who were the two QBs that played in the superbowl last year?

Lol, don’t spoil his tantrum! Jalen the Redeemer is unassailable!

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

It's funny that Hurts probably about sacks a game by avoiding the rush and not being a Wentz and play hero ball and people dismiss that. He's running too much. I rather him sit in the pocket and take a hit so he doesn't run too much. Peeps dismiss all of his unguardable running talents that promote good team play. This league has changed. You have to be able to run some to be successful. The days of Tom Brady statue type QBs are done. Brady has a mediciocre offensive line and can't escape and now you see he isn't all of that. Rather have Hurts style. Gets you out of a lot of hams and plays smart football. Take it all day, with a few of his warts. 

Hurts isn't the first running QB and history has shown that if a QB can't be effective from the pocket as well he's not winning a super bowl.

What made a guy like Steve young so dangerous was he was deadly accurate from the pocket and that was a skill that he worked on.

He wasn't a great passer at BYU nor early in the NFL but Walsh saw something in him And worked on his footwork in the pocket to the point young was a true dual threat QB.

Hurts has shown flashes in the pass game, that dime to Quez for the TD was a high level timing throw, he's made some impressive drop in the bucket throws so he's showed he can do that now he just needs to do it consistently 

The one thing that will limit Jalen as a passer is his arm, he doesn't have a cannon for an arm, he can't drive the ball down field or into tight windows, Steve young had a pretty good arm, having said that I think jalens incremental improvements in mechanics have seemed to given him a little more zip on his passes, still not a cannon but seems a bit more than last year.

Anyway playoff time will be big for him, the BUCS last year highlighted all of hurts flaws as a passer and totally embarrassed him and the eagles, I'm hoping he has a better showing this playoff run.

7 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Who were the two QBs that played in the superbowl last year?

Okay. And how does Stafford look now? Only works if you have an impeccable offensive line. How about Mahomes in 2020 & 2021 Superbowls? The game is evolving and moving into athletic qbs more and more. No? 

1 minute ago, Utebird said:

Hurts isn't the first running QB and history has shown that if a QB can't be effective from the pocket as well he's not winning a super bowl.

What made a guy like Steve young so dangerous was he was deadly accurate from the pocket and that was a skill that he worked on.

He wasn't a great passer at BYU nor early in the NFL but Walsh saw something in him And worked on his footwork in the pocket to the point young was a true dual threat QB.

Hurts has shown flashes in the pass game, that dime to Quez for the TD was a high level timing throw, he's made some impressive drop in the bucket throws so he's showed he can do that now he just needs to do it consistently 

The one thing that will limit Jalen as a passer is his arm, he doesn't have a cannon for an arm, he can't drive the ball down field or into tight windows, Steve young had a pretty good arm, having said that I think jalens incremental improvements in mechanics have seemed to given him a little more zip on his passes, still not a cannon but seems a bit more than last year.

Anyway playoff time will be big for him, the BUCS last year highlighted all of hurts flaws as a passer and totally embarrassed him and the eagles, I'm hoping he has a better showing this playoff run.

And he is showing good progress there once we put surrounding talent around him. Didn't have as much to work with last year and was essentially his rookie year. Peeps want him to be Steve Young overnite! Incredible. Lol

4 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

You're in the extreme minority. Black on Black is the cool stuff now. 

fair enough Im the minority. it looked as weak as their defense.

12 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Lamar Jackson proves this every year...o wait

Oh my there you are again. I'll listen to you. Lamar Jackson is a RB completely. Don't compare. Hurts is much more accurate than that. Pleeease.

23 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I criticized Hurts for bailing out of the pocket too soon and for not stepping up in the pocket. It was nice he got the record and we won but I don't want the QB running that much

Normally I don't either.  But if they're not going to spy him and give him 10-15 yards a clip like that?  Take it and don't think twice.  It would be a different story if it was Hurts taking off for 5 yards at a time when AJ and Devonta are open 20 yards downfield. 

What I absolutely don't like is how often Hurts is being piledriven forward on 4th and short.  Otherwise he's doing okay not taking big shots - he's doing really well protecting himself. 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Theres a difference between Athletic QB's,  Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Even Aaron Rodgers. Then theres RUNNING QBs, like Lamar, Hurts, Justin Fields

 You are going to put Hurts with Fields and Jackson as passers. Hurts is passed that stage my friend. You need glasses. Go back to where you were hiding..

8 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Okay. And how does Stafford look now? Only works if you have an impeccable offensive line. How about Mahomes in 2020 & 2021 Superbowls? The game is evolving and moving into athletic qbs more and more. No? 

 

Stafford is coming on 35 and is injured. His o-line has been awful.

I think you're failing to take into account how these "statue" QBs evade the pass rush not by running away from it (or in circles like Jalen does sometimes), but by stepping up in the pocket, getting the ball out fast by keeping their eyes downfield, and generally maintaining good pocket presence/awareness. Tom Brady rarely gets sacked. Is that because he is Mike Vick? No. He's perfected pocket presence and technique.

2 minutes ago, Texas Eagle said:

Stafford is coming on 35 and is injured. His o-line has been awful.

I think you're failing to take into account how these "statue" QBs evade the pass rush not by running away from it (or in circles like Jalen does sometimes), but by stepping up in the pocket, getting the ball out fast by keeping their eyes downfield, and generally maintaining good pocket presence. Tom Brady rarely gets sacked. Is that because he is Mike Vick? No. He's perfected pocket presence and technique.

They are not the same type of QB. They come in different flavors. No one is saying he's perfected that skill yet. Has shown progress and the kid has shown that he will work on his craft. He will let his other strengths play in the meantime. Not the perfect QB but a pretty good one. Better than Brady right now as a matter of fact. 

 

4 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

And he is showing good progress there once we put surrounding talent around him. Didn't have as much to work with last year and was essentially his rookie year. Peeps want him to be Steve Young overnite! Incredible. Lol

If you want anyone to take you serious don't say last year was basically hurts rookie year.

Also ending a response with lol does nothing to support your point of view.

Interesting that I was pretty fair in my assessment of hurts and you took that as me insulting him or you.🤷‍♂️