1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

Yep, and we saw that in the Giants game. I think it proved that he's just a top tier game manager. 

Just flipped sides, I see.

Remember, Newton's last year in NE... 8 passing TDs, 10 INTs.   12 Rushing TDs, 6 fumbles.   20 TDs to 16 turnovers.  Bad ratio.

Last year in Carolina,   4 passing TDs, 5 INTs.   5 rushing TDs to 4 fumbles.   9 TDs to 9 turnovers.   Worse ratio.

15 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The thing Hurts had going for him last year is he didn't turn the ball over a lot in the games against bad teams which kept the games winnable.  Now this isn't a pay the guy 35mil argument but it is a reason you can't just plug anyone in. 

I think the more fascinating debate is you took all 31 other starting QBs in the league and put them on the eagles with this roster, which ones would have as good or better of a record than Hurts and which would have worse. 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Arguing just to argue.  Shame.  This is a kindler gentler blog.  Or supposed to be.  

7 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

 I think Cam would flirt with 10 wins. I think Josh Johnson could. Probably ryan Fitz, Will Grier, Cooper Rush. 

My point being... if Josh Allen, Mahomes, Rodgers goes down, those teams are F*****. If Hurts goes down this team isnt skipping a beat. AND if Minshew goes down theres still a lot of wineable games just because theres a lot of bad teams. 

 

If you told me Trace McSorley was starting against the Bears, I think the Eagles win. 

Back track.

3 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

1) Eagles roster is light years ahead of the Panthers

2) 26/11 isnt really blowing Cam's shotty numbers out of the water. 

 

Side note, one thing I did notice, Hurts put the ball on the ground 9 times last year. To get it back 7 of the 9 times is lucky. usually that ratio isnt that good

Look at the ratio.  Yes, it does.  2.4: 1    versus.    1.25: 1.  and 1:1.    Double the ratio.

 

We're done here.

QB from LSU reminds me of Hurts.  Guy runs too much when he supposedly has 4 NFL quality WRs to throw to.

11 hours ago, The Blackfish said:

Yes I do!!   According to the reporter that wrote the story, Peters was a high point on their line, also according to PFF he was their best lineman.  You proved your point, he sucks but he’s still going to the HOF, and might play against the Eagles this season.
 He gave up 8 sacks in 2020 for the Eagles which is remarkable since he missed a bunch of games, but it didn’t stop reporters from writing nice things about his time in Chicago, I’m sure there are some that rip him as well.

https://theathletic.com/2903209/2021/10/21/hes-a-freak-signing-39-year-old-jason-peters-turned-into-a-positive-for-the-bears/?amp=1

https://www.audacy.com/670thescore/sports/chicago-bears/matt-nagy-explains-bears-decision-to-start-jason-peters-over-teven-jenkins

https://chicagocrusader.com/bears-offensive-lineman-jason-peters-named-week-2-nfl-way-to-play-recipient/

 

 

That's all you needed to say, LOL 

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

QB from LSU reminds me of Hurts.  Guy runs too much when he supposedly has 4 NFL quality WRs to throw to.

That is 75% of college QBs. Just never has consistent success in the NFL. When will the GMs realize that? We are still waiting for that answer. 

34 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You're missing the point. 

This roster is really good, there schedule is really easy. JOE BLOW could stumble to 10 wins. 

Just to let you know, Joe Blow isnt actually a QB, it's a made up person to prove a point that basically anyone could do it 

I guess this is the new preseason argument that is being laid out just in case Jalen Hurts succeeds.

If he is bad then it is "see I told everyone he sucks" and if he is good "well the team is so good that any QB could win."

Good job!

57 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

college did it right this year by spreading games out all week to get us to NFL. 

It is like that every year

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

2 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I guess this is the new preseason argument that is being laid out just in case Jalen Hurts succeeds.

If he is bad then it is "see I told everyone he sucks" and if he is good "well the team is so good that any QB could win."

Good job!

If he doesn't suck, then he doesn't suck. 

6 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

I guess this is the new preseason argument that is being laid out just in case Jalen Hurts succeeds.

If he is bad then it is "see I told everyone he sucks" and if he is good "well the team is so good that any QB could win."

Good job!

Well Im still on the view the team improved but without a real QB we are still a 8-9 win team. So to me Im not sold on Hurts as a QB until he proves me wrong that he can learn to read a defense, read through progressions and work the pocket till the last sec he needs. I just dont see that happening so to me Hurts is a great person, hard working but not a long term SB contending starting QB which is the entire goal. Well unless your happy with being a sub par playoff team eliminated in the first round of the playoffs every year. 

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

I hope you’re being deliberately disingenuous by characterizing picking up the 3rd QB as a critical roster decision.  Studying the available talent on the waiver wire for 5 minutes led me to conclude there wasn’t any available talent.  I don’t think either Mond or Book will be relevant NFL starters at any point, but Mond was a Day 2 draft pick and Book was a 4th round pick.  There wasn’t anything else better on the waiver wire at the position.

It was pretty apparent either Sinnett or Strong was coming back on the practice squad.  I’d hoped it would be Strong as I don’t see any upside with Sinnett, but the Eagles see it differently.  Either way, it’s definitely not a critical roster decision.  The return Howie got for JJAW and Reagor was the proper use of time.

Seriously, you think picking up Book and Mond (put in waiver claims for both but lost out on Mond) was the best option off the waiver wire.  Book is a kick the tires move, granted, not some earth shaking move.  But the time spent trading Reagor is a lost cost from the original option of picking Jefferson.  Could that lost time have been spent on some other result that would have made the team better?  (Speaking of bad transactions, drafting Mond in the third or Book in the fourth weren’t great decisions.)

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

Nah.  Looking forward to this.  Kapadia is a blessing.  Solak uses too many words, but at least he is up to speed on today's game.

5 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

QB from LSU reminds me of Hurts.  Guy runs too much when he supposedly has 4 NFL quality WRs to throw to.

Jayden Daniels the transfer from ASU.  as a freshman he actually ran less and threw more (As a freshman it was 73-27 (310:113). Sophomore year 72-28 (84:33– missed much of the season). Junior year 70-30 (280:119).) Was his career high in passing attempts as a freshman. His completion percentage was lower as a freshman then his junior year but i thought he was a better passer as a freshman than during his sophomore and junior years . He also didn’t turn the ball over nearly as much even though he had 30 more attempts (1 less game) as a freshman compared to his junior year

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

I know some people don’t like solak but i actually think sheil and him could have a good dynamic together in a podcast. I much rather listen to solak and sheil than bo wulf. 

2 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

If he doesn't suck, then he doesn't suck. 

For most people that would be correct.

However if you spent months hammering on how terrible he is and then he turns out to be good, how do you save face?

By laying out the groundwork that any QB could be great in this offense so whatever Hurts does doesn't matter.

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know some people don’t like solak but i actually think sheil and him could have a good dynamic together in a podcast. I much rather listen to solak and sheil than bo wulf. 

I would rather listen to Merrill than Wulf. Solak has a low bar there.  

2 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

For most people that would be correct.

However if you spent months hammering on how terrible he is and then he turns out to be good, how do you save face?

By laying out the groundwork that any QB could be great in this offense so whatever Hurts does doesn't matter.

Admit you were wrong? Pretty sure we are all adults and as fans have been wrong countless times on players....

1 minute ago, pallidrone said:

For most people that would be correct.

However if you spent months hammering on how terrible he is and then he turns out to be good, how do you save face?

By laying out the groundwork that any QB could be great in this offense so whatever Hurts does doesn't matter.

Not difficult

"Hurts really proved us wrong. I was wrong,  Great job to him" 

I think the other question is what happens if he is the exact same QB he was last year again? How does the other group react? 

Should be the same way BUT you will have some that will make excuses for him just like some who will make excuses on why he succeeded if he does. Its an endless cycle you cant win so why really care that much? 

3 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

Admit you were wrong? Pretty sure we are all adults and as fans have been wrong countless times on players....

I win more then I lose..............................................Just saying LOL

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

Sheil was the best part of Birds with Friends. Solak is good when he doesn't try pop culture references, ie when he's just focused on scheme.

15 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

I liked Kist and Solak a lot and like Sheil. I think it should be pretty good unless Sheil can’t rein in Solak.

8 minutes ago, pallidrone said:

For most people that would be correct.

However if you spent months hammering on how terrible he is and then he turns out to be good, how do you save face?

By laying out the groundwork that any QB could be great in this offense so whatever Hurts does doesn't matter.

It was, and remains a foolish take.  Granted... that was to be expected.   And so far, I've not seen it from anyone else, nor anyone else picking up that banner to carry it forward.

17 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

A new podcast for us podcast listeners to hate listen to. 

Sheil is with Ringer now I see. I didn't think they were doing all that well