15 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Just listened to Seth Joyner yell that JD is out of shape/too heavy and needs to be close to 310. 

So I'll say 37%

Say what! Given Davis' frame, I doubt he'll ever play below 330 no matter how much he works out.

It's like asking Mailata to play at 320 lbs.

8 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

More about he whom shall not be named.

 

 

Everything about the America's Game 2017 is great, except Wentz going me me me me me me me me! Its so cringe on every single replay.

5 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Have to disagree.  Rudolph is more seasoned because he has played NFL games and may be better suited than Pickett at this point for coming off the bench at this point.  A single TC doesn’t usually make a starting QB. Doesn’t mean that Pickett doesn’t surpass Rudolph as the season goes on.  Also doesn’t mean that if Mitch gets hurt and has to miss a game that they don’t have Pickett start instead of Rudolph but why play a rookie early if not forced to do so? Depth charts are the creation of the Spuds for teams and not by the coaches. 

It matters b/c of snaps. The starting QB gets the lion share of practice snaps, but if you keep Rudolph, you limit Pickett's snaps in practice b/c you have to prepare Rudolph to step in if needed. And Rudolph isn't cheap, having him on the roster for game 1 guarantees his salary:

Mason Rudolph signed a 1 year, $5,080,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, including a $2,080,000 signing bonus, $2,080,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,080,000. In 2022, Rudolph will earn a base salary of $3,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,040,000 and a dead cap value of $1,040,000.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Heard WIp discussing Hurts compared to McNabb.  If there is a lazier comp, I don't know what it could be.  People are Fing stupid.  

I don’t think it’s all that lazy of a comparison. Personally, I think comparing him to Vick would be lazier. 

McNabb clearly a better talent but young McNabb had good athleticism and throughout his career would miss some easy throws. 

The one thing I’ll give to Hurts over McNabb is consistency. I feel like we know what we’re getting in Hurts. McNabb would look like modern day Mahomes one week then the next week look like Jamarcus Russell. 

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Heard WIp discussing Hurts compared to McNabb.  If there is a lazier comp, I don't know what it could be.  People are Fing stupid.  

McNabb was able to stay mediocre and win because the team made up for it. He was rancid garbage at QB a good 4-6 times a year. They won a bunch of those games anyway.

In modern social media times 1 bad game gets you killed. McNabb would have been destroyed if he played now.

Just take a look at those box scores 2000-2003 and then 2005-2009. Look at his last 2 Eagles games that both counted as playoffs vs the Cowboys. (first for the bye and 2nd wildcard) When he left Andy he was not a top 25 QB in his mid 30s.

Dude finished with a streak of 2+ turnovers in 5 straight playoff games. I wonder why the Eagles never won with him?

@LeanMeanGM

Eagles 31

Lions 21

Game is close in the 4th quarter, defensive score seals it

7 minutes ago, austinfan said:

It matters b/c of snaps. The starting QB gets the lion share of practice snaps, but if you keep Rudolph, you limit Pickett's snaps in practice b/c you have to prepare Rudolph to step in if needed. And Rudolph isn't cheap, having him on the roster for game 1 guarantees his salary:

Mason Rudolph signed a 1 year, $5,080,000 contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers, including a $2,080,000 signing bonus, $2,080,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $5,080,000. In 2022, Rudolph will earn a base salary of $3,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,040,000 and a dead cap value of $1,040,000.

You've completely glossed over the point. The "depth chart" as constructed is meaningless. The actual reality is, if Trubisky is ineffective (and he'll have some leash) and replaced, he will be replaced by Pickett. Maybe in a month, maybe in December, but that's what will happen. If Trubisky is injured in the first month or so, then you're likely to see Rudolph come in and keep the ship steady. But by end of year, Pickett will very likely be the full time starter, barring some unforeseen mega season from Trubisky. 

5 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

McNabb was able to stay mediocre and win because the team made up for it. He was rancid garbage at QB a good 4-6 times a year. They won a bunch of those games anyway.

In modern social media times 1 bad game gets you killed. McNabb would have been destroyed if he played now.

Just take a look at those box scores 2000-2003 and then 2005-2009. Look at his last 2 Eagles games that both counted as playoffs vs the Cowboys. (first for the bye and 2nd wildcard) When he left Andy he was not a top 25 QB in his mid 30s.

Dude finished with a streak of 2+ turnovers in 5 straight playoff games. I wonder why the Eagles never won with him?

Yes, the game in 2000-2003 is so similar to today's passing numbers. 

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

You've completely glossed over the point. The "depth chart" as constructed is meaningless. The actual reality is, if Trubisky is ineffective (and he'll have some leash) and replaced, he will be replaced by Pickett. Maybe in a month, maybe in December, but that's what will happen. If Trubisky is injured in the first month or so, then you're likely to see Rudolph come in and keep the ship steady. But by end of year, Pickett will very likely be the full time starter, barring some unforeseen mega season from Trubisky. 

Yes, the game in 2000-2003 is so similar to today's passing numbers. 

He was a garbage WCO passer with a horrific completion %. Worm Burner was his nickname. He could at least run until Rush Limbaugh and then his mental weakness ended even that.

How does a 30 rating game become a good game because 30 was really like 38 in today's game?

8 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think it’s all that lazy of a comparison. Personally, I think comparing him to Vick would be lazier. 

McNabb clearly a better talent but young McNabb had good athleticism and throughout his career would miss some easy throws. 

The one thing I’ll give to Hurts over McNabb is consistency. I feel like we know what we’re getting in Hurts. McNabb would look like modern day Mahomes one week then the next week look like Jamarcus Russell. 

maybe the best and smartest post you've ever made, I remember  hearing aikman say in a game once, if mcnabb hits a reciever in stride sometimes, he's have a lot more yards and more tds, but he was known for his wormburners for a reason, I really thought we'd win a sb with mcnabb

29 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Colts are a good candidate to win fewer games than last year.  Colts, Raiders, and Saints are being overrated.

Agree. With Matt Pryor at LT, I should think so.

1 minute ago, justrelax said:

Agree. With Matt Pryor at LT, I should think so.

I still can't believe they're doing that. I like Pryor, but yeesh.

Regarding Steelers depth chart. 

In 2016, before Bradford was traded, Wentz was 3rd on the depth chart behind Daniel. Then Bradford got dealt and everyone knew we weren’t marching out Chase Daniel. Just like the Steelers won’t march out Rudolph 

10 minutes ago, olsilverhair said:

maybe the best and smartest post you've ever made, I remember  hearing aikman say in a game once, if mcnabb hits a reciever in stride sometimes, he's have a lot more yards and more tds, but he was known for his wormburners for a reason, I really thought we'd win a sb with mcnabb

Before someone else says it, that’s not saying much. 

Now get back in your cage 

2002: League Average passer rating was 80.4

McNabb was far below average in 5 of 10 games. This was year 4 on starts 39-48.

In 2003 this was 9 of 16 games below league average. Starts 49-64

In 2008 (83.2) this was 8 of 16 below average as a 10 year vet who gave up on running 5 years earlier.

How the hell does this compare to a guy on his start number 20?

Close your eyes and cover your ears and say la la la all day long. McNabb was still an anchor.

No one is like McNabb.

McNabb was like a kicker who missed 50% of his FGs every year but his team won a bunch of games anyway.

Sure he hit 4 or 5 from 50+ every year but he could not be counted on to make the 37 yard chip shot.

 

Watch the end of the 4th and 26 game. He puts the ball in the hands of a Packer in the end zone with an inaccurate throw on the 4th and 26 FG drive to tie the game.

This actually happened and its on YouTube.  Pinkston was on the outside and McNabb put the ball on the inside.

He was a scattershot passer for his entire career. You don't get to put that label on a 3rd year player / 2nd year full time starter. (well you can, and we will 🤣)

Hurts might get benched in week 6 and Minshew Mania takes us to the SB. I don't care.

Hurts still won't be McNabb.

You only get to be McNabb through 11 years of being a Jekyll and Hyde style anchor on a team that could have won 4 Super Bowls.

I'm not a Hurts fan or a Hurts supporter. If he earns it this year then I will be.

I'm an Eagles fan who knows McNabb stopped several parades.

2 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Hurts might get benched in week 6 and Minshew Mania takes us to the SB. I don't care.

Hurts still won't be McNabb.

You only get to be McNabb through 11 years of being a Jekyll and Hyde style anchor on a team that could have won 4 Super Bowls.

Well in his defense, Andy Reid could be a Jekyll and Hyde type coach. I feel like there’s been a few Chief games over the past 5-6 years where I’m like OK there’s good ole Eagles AR trying to outsmart himself 

 

14 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

2002: League Average passer rating was 80.4

McNabb was far below average in 5 of 10 games. This was year 4 on starts 39-48.

In 2003 this was 9 of 16 games below league average. Starts 49-64

In 2008 (83.2) this was 8 of 16 below average as a 10 year vet who gave up on running 5 years earlier.

How the hell does this compare to a guy on his start number 20?

Close your eyes and cover your ears and say la la la all day long. McNabb was still an anchor.

No one is like McNabb.

Boy oh boy, where to start with you.

2002 - McNabb's end of year rating was 86.0. So above league average. 

2003 - Had a bad year, rating of 79.6

You very conveniently leave out 2004, when his rating goes to 104.7.

Gee, I wonder why there's such a big jump?

2002 - Top WRs, James Thrash and Todd Pinkston

2003 - Thrash 49 receptions, Westbrook with 37, Pinkston 36, Staley 36, Mitchell 35.

For a team that's so pass heavy, you'd think they'd try and obtain a bonafide WR to help out their QB? 

Oh, imagine that! They do so going into 2004 and McNabb's numbers spike bigly! WOW! 

lmao 

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Is that the brother of Idi?

6 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

I'm not a Hurts fan or a Hurts supporter. If he earns it this year then I will be.

I'm an Eagles fan who knows McNabb stopped several parades.

I feel like this is just a narrow-vissioned take. Who could the Eagles have got that was a better QB than McNabb? 20 years ago the QB crop was way, way smaller. 

1 hour ago, TorontoEagle said:

 

Cool so it’s exactly what i said leading up to the draft that if the eagles didn’t select Jefferson it would be cause they viewed him as a slot receiver and with 2 tight ends (lesser ward too) (howie’s overall quote discussed this) he wasn’t as good of a fit as reagor who was an outside WR that had speedzzzz. Meanwhile they got it wrong with Jefferson cause he could play slot and the outside. Which multiple people and draft analyst on the board said leading up to the draft he could 

here’s the actual quote

 

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

lmao 

 

@austinfan lol, you were saying?