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4 minutes ago, downundermike said:

If they get it, need to follow the MLBTV model, by far the best of the sports packages.

They are streaming 162 games per team every year, and the price is $ 129.99, and viewership was up almost 10% last year.

On top of the price being lower, which gets more subscribers, the interface and options are phenomenal.

I’m still hoping Amazon comes in and gets it

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Note this doesn't factor in sports bars

Just now, metal said:

FWIW:

 

And thats just to break even.

I guess they can view it as a net gain if they just gain subscribers. But I have a feeling theyll want this to bring profit directly as well. 

I dont see them charging 500 or more for the package. So I think the base subscription price will be increasing. 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

And thats just to break even.

I guess they can view it as a net gain if they just gain subscribers. But I have a feeling theyll want this to bring profit directly as well. 

I dont see them charging 500 or more for the package. So I think the base subscription price will be increasing. 

To be fair it doesn't include sports bars which pay a lot more but like I said earlier I do expect a price increase. I wonder if the low subscriber numbers for ST is due to most people needing to be a DirecTV subscriber. I figured it would be higher. Even 2 million seems low.

Just now, metal said:

To be fair it doesn't include sports bars which pay a lot more but like I said earlier I do expect a price increase. I wonder if the low subscriber numbers for ST is due to most people needing to be a DirecTV subscriber. I figured it would be higher. Even 2 million seems low.

Has that still been a thing? I've gotten ST for 4 years in a row and never had to subscribe to DirectTV, and it is available where my house is. 

5 minutes ago, metal said:

FWIW:

Note this doesn't factor in sports bars

Not everyone wanted to get satellite. The standalone price was pretty pricey too

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Has that still been a thing? I've gotten ST for 4 years in a row and never had to subscribe to DirectTV, and it is available where my house is. 

I stream it so I have never been a DTV subscriber but that's what I am seeing people say on Twitter.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Has that still been a thing? I've gotten ST for 4 years in a row and never had to subscribe to DirectTV, and it is available where my house is. 

Some addresses don’t allow the streaming version and require you get directv 

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Some addresses don’t allow the streaming version and require you get directv 

That makes absolutely no sense which means it makes perfect sense for DirecTV.

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

We put in a combination microwave/exhaust fan/convection oven over the stove.  Greatest decision we made in the entire kitchen.  LOVE IT!   The convection oven really helps out a lot with things.

That has been our configuration for the last 20 years.  The convection oven mode of the microwave isn’t used often but when we do use it it is a real blessing.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

And thats just to break even.

I guess they can view it as a net gain if they just gain subscribers. But I have a feeling theyll want this to bring profit directly as well. 

I dont see them charging 500 or more for the package. So I think the base subscription price will be increasing. 

mlbtv has 2.5 - 3 million subscribers at 129.99 a month.  They also give it away free to T Mobile customers, so they get a chunk of change from t mobile.

They have to have a plan, they know people are not going to pay 500 a month for it, they may not even pay the current 300, especially with the ease of streaming through other outlets :ph34r:

Following the mlbtv model, they might go lower price to get more subscribers, football is king, and offer single team packages as some folks only do it to watch their team.

The only thing that may piss me off, is if they move Red Zone Channel off the standard programming.

18 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

The problem is, old habits de hard and Hurts kinds of regresses when the game becomes more chaotic or he feels he needs to score points.  He needs to trust the team and the system, rather than be it.

 

1 hour ago, greend said:

That's why the coaches get paid. 

The defensive game plan the Bears deployed had a significant influence on the choices the coaches and Hurts had on Sunday.

  1. They ignored Hurts on the RO, committing to the RB – usually Sanders.

              This accomplished two things: it enabled them to get hits on Hurts by forcing him to keep and it, and it freed the DE as an extra guy to stop Sanders.

  1. They stacked the box. Like this. NINE guys in the box. NO safety. That shadow on the right edge of the screen is the back judge.

image.thumb.png.ace379908764342b8bb7a7a55d3590ac.pngBig gamble but they counted on the bitter weather and the wind. Did you notice how that one field goal try took a sharp right turn to miss? It started down the middle. The QBs had to throw in those conditions too.

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

mlbtv has 2.5 - 3 million subscribers at 129.99 a month.  They also give it away free to T Mobile customers, so they get a chunk of change from t mobile.

They have to have a plan, they know people are not going to pay 500 a month for it, they may not even pay the current 300, especially with the ease of streaming through other outlets :ph34r:

Following the mlbtv model, they might go lower price to get more subscribers, football is king, and offer single team packages as some folks only do it to watch their team.

The only thing that may piss me off, is if they move Red Zone Channel off the standard programming.

Red zone isn't standard.  That's included on an extra 10 dollars a month sports package. 

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Red zone isn't standard.  That's included on an extra 10 dollars a month sports package. 

Yeah, but I would be pissed to only be able to get RedZone with Sunday ticket.

14 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Come redo my bathroom.  I can pay you nothing, but I'll let you bring in potential clients to see the work you did turning my 6' x 10' bathroom into a luxurious 10' x 20' master bath.  

While we Mourn Franco and worry about Jalen, some more Off Topic Building stuff...

Still  :offtopic:

Want to enlarge your Bath, you could always do this...

Original Bungalow. Raise it up.

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Stripped and Wrapped...New First Floor in place, still going higher...

20151110_155420.thumb.JPG.d7c22c128fc4f3f4f3bf9d7d892dd071.JPG

Finished project. The Original Bungalow can be seen at the Top Right of the New structure. I took it up 3 Stories.

IMG_2113.thumb.jpg.ec769a41d8c4cb0527e57b5242538abc.jpg

 Job took Eight months, Navigate THAT! lol.

Saving and utilizing Portions of the Original structure allowed me to maintain the original footprint, instead of having to adhere to New, more restrictive setback requirements. Height Restrictions have been eased as well, to allow the Flood Mitigation efforts. Raising the Building in this Coastal Flood Zone is favored. Incentives and subsidies available to help Homeowners who wish to do so.

 

...and the Bathrooms can get bigger...:lol: 

...a lot of structure was removed prior the the lift, hence the Finished footprint looks bigger...

 

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

:sad:

He lived in south Jersey after he retired.  I met him in line at Gaetano's in Willingboro.  Nice guy.  A shame.

They have a statue of him making the Immaculate Reception at the airport in Pittsburgh.

I lived in Willingboro for 19 years. Used to go to Gaetano’s for my game day food every Sunday. It’s the one thing I miss about living in Jersey. 

29 minutes ago, metal said:

FWIW:

Note this doesn't factor in sports bars

Nor advertising...

Franco Harris said Poor JoePa while he didn’t give a $hit about kids getting raped. 

3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

Nor advertising...

That is where the big bucks come from.

55 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Alright - if we are in a scenario that I laid out where Isaac is brought back, Bradberry walks, DL and CB are available when we are the clock -  and Howie drafts RT with an eye towards 2024... I'm glad you will be happy with that thought process.  Also, I don't think Paris Johnson is a BPA unicorn at 9 - so I'm not imagining a situation where we are keeping Orlando Pace in our back pocket for a season/benching Seumalo in favor of him.

I haven't begun to look at draft prospects yet.  But, I am against the thought process that a draft pick should have immediate impact.   That's the kind of thinking that brought us the likes of Marcus Smith, Jerome McDougle and Jalen Reagor.  You are drafting for the future of the franchise, not the immediate season.  So, when evaluating a draft, you can't focus on the first year to determine the impact.   After one year, Danny Watkins started 12 games.  Good pick?  Of course not.  Bernard Williams started all 16 as well.  

 

There’s gonna be a lot more than 2M subscribers now that it’s on a streaming service. Google is taking a gamble on how many money subscribers. Who cares, let them fail if it isn’t affordable. 

The cap should be going up if that number is correct

2 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I haven't begun to look at draft prospects yet.  But, I am against the thought process that a draft pick should have immediate impact.   That's the kind of thinking that brought us the likes of Marcus Smith, Jerome McDougle and Jalen Reagor.  You are drafting for the future of the franchise, not the immediate season.  So, when evaluating a draft, you can't focus on the first year to determine the impact.   After one year, Danny Watkins started 12 games.  Good pick?  Of course not.  Bernard Williams started all 16 as well.  

 

All true but it doesn't hurt to nail one now and again.

Some guys are just READY.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I haven't begun to look at draft prospects yet.  But, I am against the thought process that a draft pick should have immediate impact.   That's the kind of thinking that brought us the likes of Marcus Smith, Jerome McDougle and Jalen Reagor. 

You still have to make the right pick.

Pick # 21 - Reagor - 31 catches for 396 yards and 1 td

Pick #22 - Justin Jefferson - 88 catches for 1400 yards ( Vikings rookie record and 3rd all time rookie season ) and 7 TD's.  He has backed that up with back to back 1600+ yard seasons and 17 more TD's.

You can draft for immediate impact and the future.

 

23 minutes ago, Doc S. said:

While we Mourn Franco and worry about Jalen, some more Off Topic Building stuff...

Still  :offtopic:

Want to enlarge your Bath, you could always do this...

Original Bungalow. Raise it up.

20150914_165057.thumb.JPG.0532f8376900c8abb140f3429db08337.JPG

 

Stripped and Wrapped...New First Floor in place, still going higher...

20151110_155420.thumb.JPG.d7c22c128fc4f3f4f3bf9d7d892dd071.JPG

Finished project. The Original Bungalow can be seen at the Top Right of the New structure. Took it up 3 Stories.

IMG_2113.thumb.jpg.ec769a41d8c4cb0527e57b5242538abc.jpg

 Job took Eight months, Navigate THAT! lol.

Saving and utilizing Portions of the Original structure allowed me to maintain the original footprint, instead of having to adhere to New, more restrictive setback requirements. Height Restrictions have been eased as well, to allow the Flood Mitigation efforts. Raising the Building in this Coastal Flood Zone is favored. Incentives and subsidies available to help Homeowners who wish to do so.

 

...and the Bathrooms can get bigger...:lol: 

...a lot of structure was removed prior the the lift, hence the Finished footprint looks bigger...

 

Wow.  Nice.