Just now, MillerTime said:

Even at 31 we outscored every team than the team we beat. So no other team had a short field? Still scored

We're not talking about other teams. We're talking about ours in proper context. Hurts was ok. He was not outstanding. He still ran a lot, which over the course of a season won't be sustainable if he hopes to stay healthy.

4 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

So they stalled for 455 yards?

I agree that pressure and tackling on D was an issue.  Also, Detroit did ran some nice stuff in the second half.

 

When your QB struggles to hit 50% completion percentage in 2022, then yes I'd say it was stalled.  Looking at the totals at the end of the game means nothing when you barely beat a crap team.

There goes that slot WR again... 

 

 

 

 

I will never be able to get over the fact that they selected Reagor over Jefferson.  It still boggles my mind.

Just now, schuy7 said:

Eagles score 31 on offense. Hurts throws for 243, runs for 90 and a score, doesn't turn the ball over... and half the blog is ripping him apart. I don't know what some of you expect. No, he's not a great QB. He played very well today. He ran the offense how it was supposed to be run.

If that’s how the offense is supposed to be run, then we will continue to beat bad teams and lose to good teams. And I’ll continue to criticize it, because it’s not sustainable or good enough.

Just now, schuy7 said:

Eagles score 31 on offense. Hurts throws for 243, runs for 90 and a score, doesn't turn the ball over... and half the blog is ripping him apart. I don't know what some of you expect. No, he's not a great QB. He played very well today. He ran the offense how it was supposed to be run.

Hurts played well, he moved the chains, protected the ball, and put points on the board. Can't be mad at that.

With that said, he so far hasn't taken the leap as a passer he needs to make to keep his job after this year.

Hurts had a good game. He’s not a good passer but overall he had a good game. 

The D-Line was the biggest disappointment. All that draft capital and money and they were meh. They need to dominate. 

If they weren’t the Lions, they would have won that game. 

Being more optimistic, AJ Brown is incredible. Absolutely worth the 1st rounder and the money

1 minute ago, EagleJoe8 said:

We're not talking about other teams. We're talking about ours in proper context. Hurts was ok. He was not outstanding. He still ran a lot, which over the course of a season won't be sustainable if he hopes to stay healthy.

And thats the agenda right there. Hypotheticals. He played very well today

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

Hurts played well, he moved the chains, protected the ball, and put points on the board. Can't be mad at that.

With that said, he so far hasn't taken the leap as a passer he needs to make to keep his job after this year.

Agreed. He is who he is. We didn't learn anything new today one way or the other. 

Jefferson playing like the best WO in football 

Just now, schuy7 said:

Eagles score 31 on offense. Hurts throws for 243, runs for 90 and a score, doesn't turn the ball over... and half the blog is ripping him apart. I don't know what some of you expect. No, he's not a great QB. He played very well today. He ran the offense how it was supposed to be run.

They have an agenda. If a different QB would have scored 31pts in the same situation they'd view it differently. That's not to say I don't see flaws that could be fatal in other games.  But if you're saying he wasn't good today when the O scored 31pts and he was the biggest part of that then you have an agenda.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Eagles score 31 on offense. Hurts throws for 243, runs for 90 and a score, doesn't turn the ball over... and half the blog is ripping him apart. I don't know what some of you expect. No, he's not a great QB. He played very well today. He ran the offense how it was supposed to be run.

Everyone thinks and as they should that hurts is what he is. He's the exact same quarterback as last year. That is not good enough to be a playoff winning team. Yes he can win a game versus a very poor team but what happens when we play and above average team?

You need to be able to make decisions like a passing quarterback to win in this league. That type of quarterback play is not sustainable in the NFL

I’m not sure why I’m so surprised about the negativity about Hurts’ day, but I am. The OL struggled to pick up the blitz for much of the day, and while it would be nice to see him sit in the pocket and pick the blitz apart (and to be honest, the Lions blitzed because they didn’t respect Hurts), but he made the Lions pay countless times with his legs. 

I thought he showed improvement throwing over the middle. He hit Brown on a deep crosser (I believe) and he was a broken tackle away from a huge gain. That’s Brown’s bread and butter.

Hes got a long way to go, but I don’t think  he deserves all the negativity. Save it for the defense. 

Just now, schuy7 said:

Agreed. He is who he is. We didn't learn anything new today one way or the other. 

Actually we did.  We learned that he's exactly who he was at the end of last season.

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Your last sentence is the issue.  That’s the style of offense we have to run, because of his limitations.   Which isn’t good enough to beat good teams.  He recovered nicely, but his weaknesses hurt this team just as much as his strengths help it.  

I agree with that. 90% of us realize we can only be so good with Hurts. Only a few don't.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Being more optimistic, AJ Brown is incredible. Absolutely worth the 1st rounder and the money

I thought he was easily the best player on the team today 

Just now, MillerTime said:

And thats the agenda right there. Hypotheticals. He played very well today

When Brown is double teamed by a worthy defense and Hurts effectively goes through his progressions and makes anticipation throws, then he will have had a good game.

They don't get to play Detroit every week.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

I thought he was easily the best player on the field today 

FYP

32 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

This is extremely troubling if he really thinks that. One total touchdown, several badly missed throws, sub-60% completion, left several clean pockets, chose the wrong escape lane on some collapsing pockets, never kept his eyes downfield while scrambling, got bailed out of one sure grounding call (I think he was out of the tackle box on most of them, though none of his throwaways made it past the LOS which is an issue also), and had almost an equal amount of rushes and completions.

That is not an "outstanding game". Unbelievable.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Hes got a long way to go, but I don’t think  he deserves all the negativity. Save it for the defense. 

This where I'm at. Hurts improved against the blitz as the game went along. I'd still like to see him more snappy, but they were getting free rushers and he was making plays.

Gannon on the other hand needs to account for his awful game plan.

3 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Everyone thinks and as they should that hurts is what he is. He's the exact same quarterback as last year. That is not good enough to be a playoff winning team. Yes he can win a game versus a very poor team but what happens when we play and above average team?

You need to be able to make decisions like a passing quarterback to win in this league. That type of quarterback play is not sustainable in the NFL

Today they played the Detroit Lions and he scored 31. I don't disagree that he could come up small against better teams but that's not the game that was played today.   So people are essentially penalizing him today for what they project out the unwritten future to be

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

This where I'm at. Hurts improved against the blitz as the game went along. I'd still like to see him more snappy, but they were getting free rushers and he was making plays.

Gannon on the other hand needs to account for his awful game plan.

I did not see that at all.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They have an agenda. If a different QB would have scored 31pts in the same situation they'd view it differently. That's not to say I don't see flaws that could be fatal in other games.  But if you're saying he wasn't good today when the O scored 31pts and he was the biggest part of that then you have an agenda.

I don’t really understand this "agenda” talk. I like the guy as a person, seems like a great leader, ultimate teammate, I root for him, etc. But the guy has some fatal flaws in his passing game that I don’t think are sustainable to beating teams that aren’t average to below average. 
 

If you’re content on winning 9 games a year and getting bounced in the first round by superior teams then that’s your choice. But in a year where this team has enough draft capital to take a top tier QB, he needs to develop as a passer. And Howie knows that. 

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Eagles score 31 on offense. Hurts throws for 243, runs for 90 and a score, doesn't turn the ball over... and half the blog is ripping him apart. I don't know what some of you expect. No, he's not a great QB. He played very well today. He ran the offense how it was supposed to be run.

It's just a very empty feeling win.  A lot of us have an issue because we wanted to see Hurts be better than last year.  I didn't see a different player than last year.  That was the exact same Jalen Hurts.  He had 16 carries vs. 18 completions and no passing TDs.  In today's NFL, with his weapons that's unacceptable.  Not turning the ball over is a good thing.

If this is what he is and this is the offense that Sirianni wants to run then they might as well trade Smith and get what you can.  

The deep throw to Brown was a beauty.  Hurts stayed in the pocket and dropped it in the perfect spot.  There was also a slant I believe where he stood in the pocket and delivered the ball in the right spot.

I'm not going to rip Hurts but just another game where his running abilities are making people think he had a great game as a QB.  I want to see more from both the HC and the QB.  Too many designed QB runs.  

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

FYP

Hurts throw to Brown was a dime and he had a few other plays that showed progress. More often he looked similar to last year but I saw a little progress imo.  We'll see what happens going forward obviously but criticizing today seems off base