Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

Watching the Vikings play is so painful for me.

 

I don't see us beating them unfortunately 

Yeah GB, leave Jefferson wide open.

That will work.

Just now, schuy7 said:

I hate our defense so much. I'm still trying to figure out how Gannon got multiple HC interviews.

He gives good press conferences.

18 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

They have an agenda. If a different QB would have scored 31pts in the same situation they'd view it differently. That's not to say I don't see flaws that could be fatal in other games.  But if you're saying he wasn't good today when the O scored 31pts and he was the biggest part of that then you have an agenda.

Or we just understand football better

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

All I want to see from him is progress in the passing game. I already know he can run, extend plays, and is dangerous in that facet. And that’s good to have. But I felt like I was still watching 2021 Hurts from a passing perspective. Because this style of play will yield the same results of last season. Beating average to poor teams and losing to playoff caliber teams. 

I understand that.  I saw a few nice throws mixed in with leaving the pocket too early. Today the results were good. We'll see what happens next week.  If he can't beat good teams that will show itself more

This is an astute point.

I don’t understand why anyone…let alone many people…let alone people in the organization fail to see the big picture here.

Sure, a glorified running back behind a bruising OL can give a defense major fits.  He can elude rushers and scramble upfield for huge first downs.

But a flat out bad passer with the upside to one day become a merely below average passer…in a run heavy offense…your team/our team has ZERO chance of ever competing for anything meaningful with that style of play.  

Reagor to Jefferson:

 

Didn't someone used to have an avatar that said FFAAAARRTS.  This could be new new face of it.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t understand why anyone…let alone many people…let alone people in the organization fail to see the big picture here.

Sure, a glorified running back behind a bruising OL can give a defense major fits.  He can elude rushers and scramble upfield for huge first downs.

But a flat out bad passer with the upside to one day become a merely below average passer…in a run heavy offense…your team/our team has ZERO chance of ever competing for anything meaningful with that style of play.  

Hurts threw for 240 yards today with no turnovers. If he can do that, with his rushing, then he's valuable.

If you want to question whether he can do that against better defenses, that's fair.

6 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I don't see us beating them unfortunately 

If they play like they did today... there's no way.

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I understand that.  I saw a few nice throws mixed in with leaving the pocket too early. Today the results were good. We'll see what happens next week.  If he can't beat good teams that will show itself more

Dont focus on results. Focus on the process

in golf we are taught to think good swing not good result. Too many variables in the result that can cloud analysis.

hurts continues to hit ugly wormburners that sometimes end up in the fairway. Still bad swings

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Hurts threw for 240 yards today with no turnovers. If he can do that, with his rushing, then he's valuable.

If you want to question whether he can do that against better defenses, that's fair.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what people have said all day.

5 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t understand why anyone…let alone many people…let alone people in the organization fail to see the big picture here.

Sure, a glorified running back behind a bruising OL can give a defense major fits.  He can elude rushers and scramble upfield for huge first downs.

But a flat out bad passer with the upside to one day become a merely below average passer…in a run heavy offense…your team/our team has ZERO chance of ever competing for anything meaningful with that style of play.  

Umm They see it. They tried to trade for Watson, they tried to trade for Russel Wilson, they tried to trade up for Zach Wilson.

They have accumulated several top picks because they see it.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t understand why anyone…let alone many people…let alone people in the organization fail to see the big picture here.

Sure, a glorified running back behind a bruising OL can give a defense major fits.  He can elude rushers and scramble upfield for huge first downs.

But a flat out bad passer with the upside to one day become a merely below average passer…in a run heavy offense…your team/our team has ZERO chance of ever competing for anything meaningful with that style of play.  

But how many people actually think we’re competing for a Super Bowl with Hurts? We know the Eagles tried to trade up for Wilson and inquired about Russell Wilson and reportedly wanted to talk about Watson. The trade for a future 1 was to keep assets for the QB position. 

18 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Hurts throw to Brown was a dime and he had a few other plays that showed progress. More often he looked similar to last year but I saw a little progress imo.  We'll see what happens going forward obviously but criticizing today seems off base

That's exactly why he's being criticized 

Who doesn't see the big picture though? It's not like the Eagles can get rid of Hurts tomorrow for Josh Allen. What's plan B? They're trying to maximize what they can with him. 

Just now, D-Shiznit said:

Umm They see it. They tried to trade for Watson, they tried to trade for Russel Wilson, they tried to trade up for Zach Wilson.

They have accumulated several top picks because they see it.

I wish I was as confident as you are about it. I have a feeling it’s gonna get ugly because of how the whole thing has been handled. I hope I’m wrong though 

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

Hurts threw for 240 yards today with no turnovers. If he can do that, with his rushing, then he's valuable.

If you want to question whether he can do that against better defenses, that's fair.

Maybe valuable to a bad team desperately trying to be competitive…like the bears

thats not what we are

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what people have said all day.

I do find it interesting that the Lions blitzed that much. It's what the Bucs did. Teams will do it until we make them back off.

1 minute ago, D-Shiznit said:

Umm They see it. They tried to trade for Watson, they tried to trade for Russel Wilson, they tried to trade up for Zach Wilson.

They have accumulated several top picks because they see it.

Lol. Beat me to it. 

Just now, schuy7 said:

Who doesn't see the big picture though? It's not like the Eagles can get rid of Hurts tomorrow for Josh Allen. What's plan B? They're trying to maximize what they can with him. 

That's fine, but people need to stop pretending he's going to have borderline MVP play and secure the one seed.

Just now, blindside said:

I wish I was as confident as you are about it. I have a feeling it’s gonna get ugly because of how the whole thing has been handled. I hope I’m wrong though 

Your fear is misplaced, if the Eagles don't land a QB it won't be because of a lack of trying or planning.

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Who doesn't see the big picture though? It's not like the Eagles can get rid of Hurts tomorrow for Josh Allen. What's plan B? They're trying to maximize what they can with him. 

To what end? A worse draft pick?

4 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Umm They see it. They tried to trade for Watson, they tried to trade for Russel Wilson, they tried to trade up for Zach Wilson.

They have accumulated several top picks because they see it.

Thats what I think as well. Hurts isnt "the answer", hes just the best option at the moment without unnecessarily dumping cap on Garropolo or Ryan. The 2022* draft options didnt blow anyone away, and Watson is a bag of cats. Wilson was the only option this offseason and we lost that one