4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Because it implies a lack of trust in Sirianni's ability to confer with his coordinators on his own to make the judgement call himself. Just another example of micromanaging that we'd probably poke fun of if it were happening with the skins, giants, or cryboys.

I mean Howie is the only person in the building with roster authority.  He has to make the moves.  Giving him a list of players you need and him giving you those players isn't micromanagement necessarily.  It is if Howie tells them who he's activating despite whatever their plans may be.  

3 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I read it as Howie gets final say

I can't believe we're actually at a place where it was publicly stated that Howie is involved with game plans and more coaching-level responsibilities on a week to week basis. If Lowie has such a lack of trust in Sirianni & Gannon, maybe they should hire better coaches. Oh wait, no coach will want to come here to be micromanaged.

 

 

10 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Justin Herbert is 6'6", and the other guy who I would take over Hurts in a second, is 6'3" and not white.

There's only the 2? 

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

I can't believe we're actually at a place where it was publicly stated that Howie is involved with game plans and more coaching-level responsibilities on a week to week basis. If Lowie has such a lack of trust in Sirianni & Gannon, maybe they should hire better coaches. Oh wait, no coach will want to come here to be micromanaged.

 

 

That’s why Doug left, I’m assuming 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Yes. Watch the video I posted. He, like Cam Newton before him, is selfish, and he refuses to allow the RBs to shine. So, if he has the OPTION to hand it off, when our RBs are gaining 5.7 yards per clip, he'd rather pull it down and run it himself, so he can "get freaky", as he himself said. 

He lacks the arm talent to run a consistent offense that moves in a rhythm. He's not accurate or consistent enough. 

 

For all of your unsubstantiated attacks on Jalen's intelligence it's clear you lack the intelligence to comprehend that the coaching staff has been calling RPOs on those plays and nothing at all in the world is stopping them from calling designed run plays to RBs that are not RPOs. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I mean Howie is the only person in the building with roster authority.  He has to make the moves.  Giving him a list of players you need and him giving you those players isn't micromanagement necessarily.  It is if Howie tells them who he's activating despite whatever their plans may be.  

That's the way it should work, a simple list given to Howie each week by Sirianni, but that's apparently not the case. Gannon said he shared the game plans with Howie directly.

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I said it once half joking, but this is our next DC. People better start mentally preparing.

He has reportedly been at camp too.

And, check it.

I was there for grad school in 2010-2011. Wonder if any of them were there at the time. 

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

There's only the 2? 

I was replying to his post about tonight's game.

37 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

No I think you forgot being down 31-0 going into the 4th qter vs Tampa in the playoffs. 

Honestly the defense stunk to start that game and the offense was also not good. That was a combined effort of futility to get themselves down 31. Granted i did think the defense once they got down 17-0 did a good job holding it on the next 3 Bucs possessions to be able to try to give us a chance to get back in the game and offense couldn’t do it. 

that’s said I am not too high or too low about this Lions game. It’s the Fing Lions. They finish 28 in the DVOA last year. Their defense if you look at it has like 2 maybe 3 players and the rest of it is just bad. They are gonna be a bottom 10 defense again.  I’m not gonna crown Jalen hurts the quarterback of the future or say he can’t be based off 1 game in week one of the season vs  the lions

 The decision about whether Jalen hurts is the long-term future at quarterback is going to come when we start playing better teams and seeing if he made the jump. That is the biggest issues the eagles had last year was large portions of games against playoff opponents the defense and the offense found themselves being futile. If we get to the playoffs this year, we run into a team like Tampa Bay and the offense has the same issues again or hurts/offense makes a jump that is going to be the thing that moves the needle about moving on or staying with Jalen hurts long-term.  

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

For all of your unsubstantiated attacks on Jalen's intelligence it's clear you lack the intelligence to comprehend that the coaching staff has been calling RPOs on those plays and nothing at all in the world is stopping them from calling designed run plays to RBs that are not RPOs. 

My issue is that our "QB" is running 17 times a game, when we have a perfectly good run game that was averaging 5.7 ypc. You don't think Hurts has any responsibility in that, for some twisted reason

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

That’s why Doug left, I’m assuming 

That or he was shown the door because he stood up to them. A lot of it probably had to do with him bringing in his own coaches. As if that's a novel idea in this league.

8 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Um, the RPO IS play action.

Also, we run a ton of play action even when it's not an RPO.

Yep. A better form of play action because you're not turning your back to the defense.

Just now, TorontoEagle said:

My issue is that our "QB" is running 17 times a game, when we have a perfectly good run game that was averaging 5.7 ypc. You don't think Hurts has any responsibility in that, for some twisted reason

 

Yeah so the coaching staff should use that perfectly good running game and call some designed runs in the first half of games.  It's not that difficult to understand kiddo.  

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

For all of your unsubstantiated attacks on Jalen's intelligence it's clear you lack the intelligence to comprehend that the coaching staff has been calling RPOs on those plays and nothing at all in the world is stopping them from calling designed run plays to RBs that are not RPOs. 

We had no problem running the ball in the Super Bowl using a similar offense, with legendary Eagles QB Nick Foles at the helm.

 

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Yeah so the coaching staff should use that perfectly good running game and call some designed runs in the first half of games.  It's not that difficult to understand kiddo.  

Why should they? What they were calling was clearly working as evidenced by the ypc. What should happen is Hurts hands it off more often to the RBs than to run it himself. But naw, it's the coaches fault. 

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

My issue is that our "QB" is running 17 times a game, when we have a perfectly good run game that was averaging 5.7 ypc. You don't think Hurts has any responsibility in that, for some twisted reason

In point of fact he had six called runs plus one kneel-down. I have no dog in your fight but I do think it's good to have the facts straight.

P.S. At least two of those runs were ROs, so not necessarily for him to run.

Just now, downundermike said:

We had no problem running the ball in the Super Bowl using a similar offense, with legendary Eagles QB Nick Foles at the helm.

 

I miss nick foles. 

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Why should they? What they were calling was clearly working as evidenced by the ypc. What should happen is Hurts hands it off more often to the RBs than to run it himself. But naw, it's the coaches fault. 

 

Why should they? Because it's their job.  They are the play callers.  Please learn the game. 

And this is only week 2. Excited to see how this message board tests its limits and survival this entire season. Going to be one for the books.

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

We had no problem running the ball in the Super Bowl using a similar offense, with legendary Eagles QB Nick Foles at the helm.

The difference was if the back didn't get the ball,  the pass was the option.  There's an extra component with Hurts of course.  The concern for me is that he relies on keeping it far too much-and the way he reads it cuts the field in half and he fixates on 2 targets.  That was ok with Smith last season-because he was option A or B.  Now that he's option C.........

 

 

6 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

That's the way it should work, a simple list given to Howie each week by Sirianni, but that's apparently not the case. Gannon said he shared the game plans with Howie directly.

I would assume that includes personnel usage and who they need.  To the extent it leaves Sirianni out of the loop, is a potential problem.  I just don't assume that Howie isn't giving the coaches what they are asking for in players.  

7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

For all of your unsubstantiated attacks on Jalen's intelligence

Wonderlic scores

Justin Herbert - 39

Matt Stafford - 38

Josh Allen - 37

Aaron Rodgers - 35

Joe Burrow - 34

Tom Brady - 33

Patrick Mahomes - 24

Jalen Hurts - 21

Just now, Texas Eagle said:

And this is only week 2. Excited to see how this message board tests its limits and survival this entire season. Going to be one for the books.

Haha remember when Juan Castillo was the D-Coordinator? That was fun. 

3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

How did that work in the playoffs last year when Tampa Bay the Bucs took a 7-0 lead.  7 yards on a first down running play, a 1 yard pass, and then a 3 yard loss on a Hurts run, punt.

2nd possession, had to convert a 3rd and 9 after a penalty gave them a 1st down on the drive, punt.

3rd possession, run for 2 yards, incomplete then sacked, punt.

I could keep going, but you see what I am getting at.  Tampa kept scoring, then took away the run and invited Jalen Hurts to keep up with his arm, and he could not.

OK? That is one game. The first playoff game for a rookie HC against the greatest QB of all time. The number 7 seed against the number 2 seed.

Well you convinced me. It is IMPOSSIBLE for this team to ever win a playoff game. Might as well stop watching now. The same should go with any other team with the same type of QB from ever trying as well. Every kid in college should just forget about their NFL dreams if they run a one-read RPO style offense because they will never ever win because the Tampa Bay-Eagles playoff game set the standard for that type of player.

13 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Hurts had a really bad game against Tampa for sure.  But he was far from being alone in that.  Everyone else in the team from the coaches to the players were terrible with the exceptions of Ryan Kerrigan and DeVonta Smith. 

The team as a whole did not play well for sure. The D gave up points quick and they did a great job at stopping the run, which is what got us to the playoffs in the first place....so...why did Hurts have a bad game specifically? Why was he not able to get anything going in the passing game?