10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

See the little + on the bottom left of your post?  Click on that and then start a new post and post it in the new post.  

Thanks.

On 9/6/2022 at 11:09 AM, justrelax said:

Agree. With Matt Pryor at LT, I should think so.

 

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

The entire team comes into games under Sirriani/Gannon looking unprepared each week.  I often wonder what the actual game plan is.  I'd like to see that trend reversed

I agree that they looked unprepared (underprepared?) last week on both sides of the ball.  Hopefully that is a sample of one.  If it becomes a sample of two tonight, I will join the ranks of the very concerned about our coaching staff (other than Stoutland).

It is a real head scratcher for me that Gannon reverted back to the early-season 2021 soft zone approach that was so unsuccessful, rather than continuing the late season 2021 more aggressive approach.  It's a puzzlement.  Trust you players to do their jobs Jonathan! 

22 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Damned if i know how to quote myself but it's page 234 posted 9/6/22.

Click on the Page 571 of 572 down arrow and type 234.  Then scroll to the post and quote it.

 On 9/6/2022 at 8:09 AM, justrelax said:

On 9/6/2022 at 7:38 AM, Alphagrand said:

Colts are a good candidate to win fewer games than last year.  Colts, Raiders, and Saints are being overrated.

Agree. With Matt Pryor at LT, I should think so.

 

 

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yikes.  Of course it’s true, but this isn’t wise.  
 

 

How to get run out of a city with one sentence

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Frankly Lattimore should also be suspended. He started the whole ruckus instigating multiple Bucs players. And he’s been at the center of it along with Evans over the past couple years 

Also not surprising

 

1 hour ago, pgcd3 said:

Don't disagree but multiple years is an impossible bar to hit right now so tonight's game is the next sample. People saying Hurts game can't evolve because they didn't like a few plays in game 1 of his second season starting are who they are. The odds of Hurts transforming into a top 10 QB are small but I'm willing to watch this season and hope for the best.  The offseason is months off.

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush.  

 

The thing that troubled me about the game against Detroit was the frequency with which the game plan called for Hurts to run as a play design.  That indicates to me that the coaches have no interest in really evolving his game past a certain point, and they think that the running piece of his game will always be the go to.   I can't remember Reid calling more than a handful of QB draws (in very specific situations, usually at the goal line) with McNabb in the early years.   McNabb ran as a scrambler, but not as a 'ball carrier'.  To me, the long term risk of asking your QB to do that outweighs the short term gains... unless you have no interest in long term investment in that QB.  In that case, it is all about the now and tomorrow doesn't matter because they plan to find someone else for the future.   (Which is why college QBs run so much, IMO.  The college coach doesn't have to worry about wear and tear on their 20 year old stud QB... because in 2 or 3 years, he's gone anyway, and they will have to find another one.   Maybe that is the trend in the NFL... and given the price of QBs these days... it might not be the craziest idea out there.   Draft a QB, run him for 4 years, do what you can on their rookie deal, and then let them go get huge money elsewhere, and repeat.  Spend the money on the less expensive pieces, relatively, and let them carry him a bit more.  🤷‍♂️ )

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly Lattimore should also be suspended. He started the whole ruckus instigating multiple Bucs players. And he’s been at the center of it along with Evans over the past couple years 

I don’t think he should have been suspended. It looked like Brady was jawing just as much. Evans shoved him to the ground. Him getting ejected was enough, imo. 

1 hour ago, RLC said:

I think it's fair to say that Reich/Pederson are better together, than apart.

Look at McDaniels/Belicheck. 

Definitely.  I've been saying it for years.   And frankly, maybe the triumverate of Pederson/Reich/DeFilippo is even better than that.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush. 

I agree that it is the meaningful benchmark, but it also is a benchmark that right now has more projection than actual data. 

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush.  

 

The thing that troubled me about the game against Detroit was the frequency with which the game plan called for Hurts to run as a play design.  That indicates to me that the coaches have no interest in really evolving his game past a certain point, and they think that the running piece of his game will always be the go to.   I can't remember Reid calling more than a handful of QB draws (in very specific situations, usually at the goal line) with McNabb in the early years.   McNabb ran as a scrambler, but not as a 'ball carrier'.  To me, the long term risk of asking your QB to do that outweighs the short term gains... unless you have no interest in long term investment in that QB.  In that case, it is all about the now and tomorrow doesn't matter because they plan to find someone else for the future.   (Which is why college QBs run so much, IMO.  The college coach doesn't have to worry about wear and tear on their 20 year old stud QB... because in 2 or 3 years, he's gone anyway, and they will have to find another one.   Maybe that is the trend in the NFL... and given the price of QBs these days... it might not be the craziest idea out there.   Draft a QB, run him for 4 years, do what you can on their rookie deal, and then let them go get huge money elsewhere, and repeat.  Spend the money on the less expensive pieces, relatively, and let them carry him a bit more.  🤷‍♂️ )

Yes. Excellent post. I think they are optimizing his talents now while caring little for his long term viability. 

23 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Could see a mid season trade for Dillard in the works.  

Howie calling Ballard back to the rape den for another trade

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Click on the Page 571 of 572 down arrow and type 234.  Then scroll to the post and quote it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Standings - Detailed View

AFC WEST	W	L	T	PCT	PF	PA	Net Pts	Home	Road	Div	Pct	Conf	Pct	Non-Conf	Strk	Last 5
Kansas City Chiefs	2	0	0	1.000	71	45	26	1 - 0 - 0	1 - 0 - 0	1 - 0 - 0	1.000	1 - 0 - 0	1.000	1 - 0 - 0	2W	2 - 0 - 0
Los Angeles Chargers	1	1	0	0.500	48	46	2	1 - 0 - 0	0 - 1 - 0	1 - 1 - 0	0.500	1 - 1 - 0	0.500	0 - 0 - 0	1L	1 - 1 - 0
Denver Broncos	1	1	0	0.500	32	26	6	1 - 0 - 0	0 - 1 - 0	0 - 0 - 0	0.000	1 - 0 - 0	1.000	0 - 1 - 0	1W	1 - 1 - 0
Las Vegas Raiders	0	2	0	0.000	42	53	-11

5 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think he should have been suspended. It looked like Brady was jawing just as much. Evans shoved him to the ground. Him getting ejected was enough, imo. 

He talked trash to start it then he retaliated to fournette’s shove by shoving Leonard fournette back. Again Lattimore is only a saint by team name. This is now multiple times he’s been caught up in this crap with. He knew what he was doing and he keeps doing it every time they play. If you want to actually stop it then suspend both. Cause Lattimore is gonna do it again cause the only consequence is a minuscule fine. He and Evans both should be suspended. At some point it’s not just Evans. it’s Lattimore has a problem as much as Evans every time the Bucs and saints face each other. 

5 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Multiple years is the exact benchmark that needs to be discussed in terms of long term commitment and the salary cap.   Hurts is eligible to be extended after this season.  Is it a good idea to do so?   Right now, I'd say that the team should be in no rush.  

 

The thing that troubled me about the game against Detroit was the frequency with which the game plan called for Hurts to run as a play design.  That indicates to me that the coaches have no interest in really evolving his game past a certain point, and they think that the running piece of his game will always be the go to.   I can't remember Reid calling more than a handful of QB draws (in very specific situations, usually at the goal line) with McNabb in the early years.   McNabb ran as a scrambler, but not as a 'ball carrier'.  To me, the long term risk of asking your QB to do that outweighs the short term gains... unless you have no interest in long term investment in that QB.  In that case, it is all about the now and tomorrow doesn't matter because they plan to find someone else for the future.   (Which is why college QBs run so much, IMO.  The college coach doesn't have to worry about wear and tear on their 20 year old stud QB... because in 2 or 3 years, he's gone anyway, and they will have to find another one.   Maybe that is the trend in the NFL... and given the price of QBs these days... it might not be the craziest idea out there.   Draft a QB, run him for 4 years, do what you can on their rookie deal, and then let them go get huge money elsewhere, and repeat.  Spend the money on the less expensive pieces, relatively, and let them carry him a bit more.  🤷‍♂️ )

This may be the gameplan.

Potentially already decided and now being acted upon.

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Definitely.  I've been saying it for years.   And frankly, maybe the triumverate of Pederson/Reich/DeFilippo is even better than that.

Extra credit for usage AND spelling...

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Frankly Lattimore should also be suspended. He started the whole ruckus instigating multiple Bucs players. And he’s been at the center of it along with Evans over the past couple years 

Also not surprising

 

What surprised me is if you watch the replay closely, Saints Marcus Maye threw a closed-fisted punch at Evans. Not only was he not suspended today, he wasn’t even thrown out of that game:

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He talked trash to start it then he retaliated to fournette’s shove by shoving Leonard fournette back. Again Lattimore is only a saint by team name. This is now multiple times he’s been caught up in this crap with. He knew what he was doing and he keeps doing it every time they play. If you want to actually stop it then suspend both. Cause Lattimore is gonna do it again cause the only consequence is a minuscule fine. He and Evans both should be suspended. At some point it’s not just Evans. it’s Lattimore has a problem as much as Evans every time the Bucs and saints face each other. 

I get your point but Evans was the one who came off the sideline and really escalated the situation. They want to set the precedent that the player(s) who do this will receive the harshest punishment. Think they got it right. 

Now if you think Lattimore should have been suspended a game and Evans 2 games. That I could get behind 

Just now, Aerolithe_Lion said:

What surprised me is if you watch the replay closely, Saints Marcus Maye threw a closed-fisted punch at Evans. Not only was he not suspended here, he wasn’t even thrown out of that game:

Nfl will use that he’s a first time offender as the reason but yeah that’s suspension worth. Tbh I’d suspend a bunch of them involved for the reason this crap keeps happening with these two teams. You want to make a point at stopping or then dish out suspensions not just fines. I would think the next time they play you aren’t going to have something like this happen due to fear of fine and suspension. 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Then why did Doug fall apart without Reich ??  Do we shift the blame to Howie meddling ??

Preston Taylor is a bad OC.  

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Nfl will use that he’s a first time offender as the reason but yeah that’s suspension worth. Tbh I’d suspend a bunch of them involved for the reason this crap keeps happening with these two teams. You want to make a point at stopping or then dish out suspensions not just fines. I would think the next time they play you aren’t going to have something like this happen due to fear of fine and suspension. 

Yeah I think the NFL secretly loves it. Rivalries keep the momentum strong.
 

If this was a Dolphins player who swung at a Seahawks player, who cares? They play once every 4 years, suspend everybodyz But Tom Brady’s last season against maybe the biggest true divisional rival he’s ever had? Need to make sure both teams are in prime shape for the rematch.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

I get your point but Evans was the one who came off the sideline and really escalated the situation. They want to set the precedent that the player(s) who do this will receive the harshest punishment. Think they got it right. 

Now if you think Lattimore should have been suspended a game and Evans 2 games. That I could get behind 

Idk i look at it this way. These two teams have had this going on for awhile so the officials and league are already on alert. So the players involved had to know this going into the game. It’s about the 3rd incident. I’d suspend Lattimore, Evans, Mayes (threw a punch) and even fournette for shoving Lattimore which escalated a retaliation and Evans to come flying in. my issue is this since Lattimore isn’t getting suspend, I easily see he’s going to stir the pot again next meeting cause his punishment was a slap on the wrist. And you are gonna have something like this again. If you suspend those involved now it’s more likely to stop cause players don’t want to lose game checks 

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Yeah I think the NFL secretly loves it. Rivalries keep the momentum strong

I’d agree to a point. I don’t think the league wants star type players getting suspended. I imagine with godwin out and julio potentially out that the nfl wants Evans out vs. the packers next week. That’s a big time game that now loses an impact player.